Re: [FairfieldLife] Ahamkara

2005-03-27 Thread Vaj


On Mar 27, 2005, at 6:56 PM, akasha_108 wrote:

> Here are teh quotes that I found. They are along the lines of what I
> remember, though I remember the olkdeversio talking about the cells in
> the body actually disolving without ahamkara.

Since Ayurveda is pre-Vedic, it bases it's cosmology on the pre-Vedic 
Samkhya. Since Ayurveda deals with the body, Ahamkara plays an 
important part it defining embodiment.

But make no mistake, Tantra and Yoga both work with dissolution of 
Ahamkara, by working with Aham.

Samkhya, you know, relates to CC-style realization. Thus Ahamkara is 
not mentioned in Vedantic cosmology. If you want to grok Ahamkara from 
a "Vedic" perspective, read the Purusha sukta.

-V.



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[FairfieldLife] Ahamkara

2005-03-27 Thread akasha_108


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Mar 27, 2005, at 4:38 PM, akasha_108 wrote:
> 
> > Rob Svboda, amongst others,  well versed in samkya (from which the
> > concept of ahamkara arises), tantra, and well acquaited with saints
> > that have quite interesting if not phenomenal states and abilites,
> > says if one really looses all Ahamkara, their physical body, amongst
> > other things, would explode and dissolve.
> 
> Well, no that is not actually what he says. He says you would lose the 
> ability to self-identify with the body.

Here are teh quotes that I found. They are along the lines of what I
remember, though I remember the olkdeversio talking about the cells in
the body actually disolving without ahamkara. 

I could not find what you refer to.

quotes from Prakriti -- Robert Svoboda.  

Ahamkara ceaselessly identifies itself with each of the trillion cells
in your body. Your ahamkara constantly reminds every one of your cells
of its identity as a sub-unit of that grand and glorious entity known
as YOU.  Ahamkara ensures that only those cells that swear allegiance
to her lordship are allowed to remain alive in the body. ... You can
remain alive, safe inside yuro castle, only so long as your ahamkara
serves as your garrison governor. When she  is injured, alien beings
[germs, viruses, etc] may find awak spot in your defenses and strike
you down.

This "I-former" is your mother becasue she aggregates to herself ll
the building blocks that form you. [your body]  

The ancient rishis who knew this "I am" principle well, worshipped
their own ahamkaras as mothers that they might enter in a
lovingrelationship with them. ..Rishis recognied in the trancendent
wsdom the creative importance of MotherNature [equated with ahamkara].

Diseases arise when ahamkara is afflicted and immunity weakens. ..
Damage to the ahamkara-mothr predisposes us to disease by weakening
our innate forgiveness. p 12

It is a mystery and miracle : that which is "not-you" is converted by
ahamkara into that which is part of you. p 51 

If you have become immortal you can keep your body forever, and
instruct your Kundalini to identify with it or with Shiva at your
whim. This is absolute health, total control of ahamkara and its
immune defences.p 185







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