Re: [FairfieldLife] Challenge for Buck and The TMO
First off, praying is different than activating the unified field in the human physiology with transcending meditation. The science says so. Second I'd like to see that many, the square root of one percent, meditators in a place meditating too. The science is pretty clear that this should be good public policy everywhere. Trying to contend that it does not work because it has not been done is a silly position to start with. Thirdly, In the meantime RW's advice is quite good. “By making changes in your individual consciousness you could be lighting up the whole world.” Yes, certainly take quiet time with a transcending meditation where you are. It is well recognized by science now that one percent of a population meditating changes things for good. The square toot of one percent practicing advanced meditation or chanting sanskrit are hypothesis waiting still to be researched further. Everything thus far demonstrates that aggregate numbers and proximity do matter to peace. Based on that it is time for people to meditate in a nearby group. Like the Quakers have long known and done. -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: MJ: > Let's see the proof in the pudding. > There's already about a billion people over there in India that are praying every day, so obviously a lack of meditators is not the problem. And anyway it's not your problem. What you should be concerned about is your own guns and and your own practice, or lack of it. By making changes in your individual consciousness you could be lighting up the whole world. Change in society begins with individual success in creating peace - it's not a matter of proximity - just sit down a few times a day and radiate peace to everyone in the world. Other than that, you should just try to live a life causing nobody any harm. It's that simple. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Michael Jackson mailto:mjackson74@...> wrote: Ok Buck, you are convinced that group practice of the TMSP will create world peace, so I challenge you and the TMO to prove it. Gather all the Purusha and other governors and siddhas willing to give it a go, get the biggest group of yogic flyers and throw in as many vedic pundits to chant yagyas all day long and send them to the city of Ayodha and see if a few weeks of TMSP and Maharishi Brand yagyas will in any way ameliorate the situation described in this article. Let's see the proof in the pudding. If TMSP and the Marshy Effect is as potent and powerful as you and the TMO claim, the hoods, thugs, criminals and arms dealers in Ayodha should be running for the hills in a week or two. Let's see it. If that happens, I'll recant and become the Lynch Foundation's poster boy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Challenge for Buck and The TMO
MJ: > Let's see the proof in the pudding. > There's already about a billion people over there in India that are praying every day, so obviously a lack of meditators is not the problem. And anyway it's not your problem. What you should be concerned about is your own guns and and your own practice, or lack of it. By making changes in your individual consciousness you could be lighting up the whole world. Change in society begins with individual success in creating peace - it's not a matter of proximity - just sit down a few times a day and radiate peace to everyone in the world. Other than that, you should just try to live a life causing nobody any harm. It's that simple. On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > Ok Buck, you are convinced that group practice of the TMSP will create > world peace, so I challenge you and the TMO to prove it. > > Gather all the Purusha and other governors and siddhas willing to give it > a go, get the biggest group of yogic flyers and throw in as many vedic > pundits to chant yagyas all day long and send them to the city of Ayodha > and see if a few weeks of TMSP and Maharishi Brand yagyas will in any way > ameliorate the situation described in this article. Let's see the proof in > the pudding. If TMSP and the Marshy Effect is as potent and powerful as you > and the TMO claim, the hoods, thugs, criminals and arms dealers in Ayodha > should be running for the hills in a week or two. Let's see it. If that > happens, I'll recant and become the Lynch Foundation's poster boy. > > The Guns & Godmen Of Ayodhya > With a large section of the sadhus in Ayodhya involved in serious crimes, > the holy town is in a terrible mess. Brijesh Singh reports > > February 1992. In the midst of a political storm stirred by the Ram Mandir > movement, Mahant Lal Das, the then chief priest of the Ram Janmabhoomi > temple inside the Babri Masjid complex in Ayodhya was murdered. The search > began for a new mahant, one with a clean reputation and free of any > criminal charges or political motives. It was after much difficulty that > Satyendra Das was appointed the new mahant. > > 21 July 2013. In a land dispute, the supporters of two mahants — Bhavnath > Das, national president of the Samajwadi Party’s Sant Sabha, and Hari > Shankar Das Pehelwan, a BJP supporter — opened fire at each other. One man > was killed and a dozen injured. > > These two incidents, separated by two decades, represent the sinister > reality of Ayodhya. With bloody clashes over land disputes, murder of > mahants and rape of minors, the “holy city” has turned into a living hell. > According to RKS Rathore, a former SSP of Ayodhya, many sadhus are involved > in criminal activities. > > Most of the 7,000 temples and maths in Ayodhya have become centres of > crime. Over the past few years, more than 250 sadhus have been booked for > crimes, including murder; some have been killed in police encounters. For > instance, Mahant Harinarayan Das, who was killed in an encounter near Gonda > last year, had several criminal charges against him, including murder. > Mahant Ram Prakash Das was shot dead by the police in 1995. > > According to police sources, more than 200 sadhus have been killed in > Ayodhya in the past decade. A few days ago, the chief priest of the famous > Hanuman Garhi temple, Hari Shankar Das, was shot six times by one of his > disciples. Last year, the then mahant Ramesh Das and a priest alleged that > some sadhus were planning to murder him. And a few days later, another > priest of the temple, Gauri Shankar Das, alleged that his guru Ramagya Das’ > killer, Mahant Tribhuvan Das, wanted him dead too. > > The mahants of some temples are accused of illegally taking over the > property of other temples, murdering their chief priests or expelling them > by force. Many of Ayodhya’s “saints” are busy accumulating property, > fighting legal battles and arranging for bodyguards. > > “Tribhuvan Das, Hanuman Garhi temple’s former chief priest, was the first > to allow criminals into Ayodhya in order to establish his supremacy in the > area,” says Vairagi Sadhu Ramanand. “Das set up his own math after he was > expelled from Hanuman Garhi because of his criminal activities.” Adds > another priest of the Hanuman Garhi temple, Gauri Shankar Das, “Tribhuvan > is behind the murder of more than 100 sadhus.” > > Arjun Das, the mahant of Ramcharitmanas Bhavan, alleges that all of > Tribhuvan’s disciples have criminal background. “He made many disciples > when he was in jail. They came to Ayodhya looking for him after being > released,” he says. “Tribhuvan’s temple became a haven for criminals from > Bihar.” Despite being accused in a number of criminal cases, Tribhuvan is > still thriving in Ayodhya. > > Several mahants of the Hanuman Garhi temple have been targets of violent > attacks. In 1984, Hari Bhajan Das was shot dead by his own disciples. In > 1992, Deen Bandhu Das was attacked several times and forced to re
[FairfieldLife] Challenge for Buck and The TMO
Ok Buck, you are convinced that group practice of the TMSP will create world peace, so I challenge you and the TMO to prove it. Gather all the Purusha and other governors and siddhas willing to give it a go, get the biggest group of yogic flyers and throw in as many vedic pundits to chant yagyas all day long and send them to the city of Ayodha and see if a few weeks of TMSP and Maharishi Brand yagyas will in any way ameliorate the situation described in this article. Let's see the proof in the pudding. If TMSP and the Marshy Effect is as potent and powerful as you and the TMO claim, the hoods, thugs, criminals and arms dealers in Ayodha should be running for the hills in a week or two. Let's see it. If that happens, I'll recant and become the Lynch Foundation's poster boy. The Guns & Godmen Of Ayodhya With a large section of the sadhus in Ayodhya involved in serious crimes, the holy town is in a terrible mess. Brijesh Singh reports February 1992. In the midst of a political storm stirred by the Ram Mandir movement, Mahant Lal Das, the then chief priest of the Ram Janmabhoomi temple inside the Babri Masjid complex in Ayodhya was murdered. The search began for a new mahant, one with a clean reputation and free of any criminal charges or political motives. It was after much difficulty that Satyendra Das was appointed the new mahant. 21 July 2013. In a land dispute, the supporters of two mahants — Bhavnath Das, national president of the Samajwadi Party’s Sant Sabha, and Hari Shankar Das Pehelwan, a BJP supporter — opened fire at each other. One man was killed and a dozen injured. These two incidents, separated by two decades, represent the sinister reality of Ayodhya. With bloody clashes over land disputes, murder of mahants and rape of minors, the “holy city” has turned into a living hell. According to RKS Rathore, a former SSP of Ayodhya, many sadhus are involved in criminal activities. Most of the 7,000 temples and maths in Ayodhya have become centres of crime. Over the past few years, more than 250 sadhus have been booked for crimes, including murder; some have been killed in police encounters. For instance, Mahant Harinarayan Das, who was killed in an encounter near Gonda last year, had several criminal charges against him, including murder. Mahant Ram Prakash Das was shot dead by the police in 1995. According to police sources, more than 200 sadhus have been killed in Ayodhya in the past decade. A few days ago, the chief priest of the famous Hanuman Garhi temple, Hari Shankar Das, was shot six times by one of his disciples. Last year, the then mahant Ramesh Das and a priest alleged that some sadhus were planning to murder him. And a few days later, another priest of the temple, Gauri Shankar Das, alleged that his guru Ramagya Das’ killer, Mahant Tribhuvan Das, wanted him dead too. The mahants of some temples are accused of illegally taking over the property of other temples, murdering their chief priests or expelling them by force. Many of Ayodhya’s “saints” are busy accumulating property, fighting legal battles and arranging for bodyguards. “Tribhuvan Das, Hanuman Garhi temple’s former chief priest, was the first to allow criminals into Ayodhya in order to establish his supremacy in the area,” says Vairagi Sadhu Ramanand. “Das set up his own math after he was expelled from Hanuman Garhi because of his criminal activities.” Adds another priest of the Hanuman Garhi temple, Gauri Shankar Das, “Tribhuvan is behind the murder of more than 100 sadhus.” Arjun Das, the mahant of Ramcharitmanas Bhavan, alleges that all of Tribhuvan’s disciples have criminal background. “He made many disciples when he was in jail. They came to Ayodhya looking for him after being released,” he says. “Tribhuvan’s temple became a haven for criminals from Bihar.” Despite being accused in a number of criminal cases, Tribhuvan is still thriving in Ayodhya. Several mahants of the Hanuman Garhi temple have been targets of violent attacks. In 1984, Hari Bhajan Das was shot dead by his own disciples. In 1992, Deen Bandhu Das was attacked several times and forced to relinquish his position and lead a life of anonymity in Ayodhya. In 1995, Sadhu Naveen Das and his four accomplices murdered Mahant Ramagya Das in the temple premises. In 2005, two Naga sadhus hurled bombs at each other. In 2010, sadhus Bajrang Das and Harbhajan Das were shot dead by an unknown assailant. The next year, Mahant Prahlad Das was shot dead by a gang of sadhus. Also known as “goonda baba”, Prahlad Das had a number of charges against him, including murder, and the Faizabad district administration had slapped the Goondas Act on him. The head of the Ramjanmabhoomi Nyas, Nritya Gopal Das, is also accused of criminal activities. “This man is not a saint, but a land-grabber and a goon,” says a mahant on the condition of anonymity. “If he likes a piece of land, you have two options: either give him the
