>From an audio (No 8) recorded in Hochgurgel in 1962
(Thanks to Jörg Schenk)
Maharishi speaks about Karma
Some selected points:
Maharishi: Who is the doer (of the Karma)? The doer is the ego, the
mind. Although the senses perform the action, but the senses are not the
doer. The doer is the thinker within. So the thinker, as long as it is
associated with the body, it is associated with the body. But the doer is
that thinker, that subtle body, that Jiva. If he casts away this body,
goes to the other body, he will be caught by that action in the other body.
Body doesn't matter. What matters is the doer and what he has done....
As I was saying, the vibrations (of the Karma) return from the wall, from
the sun, from millions of miles. There are galaxies in the world from where
the light takes millions of years to reach the earth. When the vibrations
reach so far and strike against that and then will be rebound and come back,
millions of years have passed already. So the effect of the Karma done now
is not received all at once. It keeps on being received from time to time,
for (?) all eternity.
The effect in the vicinity of the doer is maximum, but the effect is created
throughout the universe, whatever little effect at far distances, but it is
created and all this effect has to come back....
Every second that we are producing some Karma, we are storing the fruit of
that Karma to be born for millions of years....
Thoughts are the seed of Karma, very powerful seed. The seed in its seed
status is very potent. If you have thoughts of injuring a man, you have
injured the whole creation, already injured in the subtle state....
Future after death depends on what a man has done throughout life. But the
next goal, where he will be born, mainly depends on the desire at the time
of death, the desire at the time of death....
Question: Is there a difference of a bad Karma done intentionally or
unintentionally?
Maharishi: Intentionally, because his attention was there, then the effect
will be more intensive. But the effect will be on the same line....
Question: If I have a bad son and have to beat him, is this bad Karma?
Maharishi: It is the Karma of the son that brings him beating and it is
the Karma of the father that makes him sorry....
If I do some sin and in this room there is no one, I think nobody has seen
it. But it has been exposed to the whole universe. Everyone in the universe
knows it. And somehow that will be delivered to us back by all the agencies
in the universe, knowing or unknowing.
You can't stop the evolution. If you commit sin in the room, then you are
creating sinful vibrations. And sinful vibrations means, wherever they go
they damage the evolution of that thing.
Someone speaks ill of the other and plans damaging him, very underknees
plan, nothing on the surface, damaging the entire creation by his mischief.
Because the agency of thought is just vibration. That is why scriptures
forbid us speaking ill of others, or damaging someone or doing harm, because
apparently we seem to be harming him but eventually we have to be harmed by
our own doing of the harm to someone else.
To save the doer the teaching is Don't do any bad thing to anyone. Don't
commit sin, go for virtue, help thy neighbour, so that thy maybe helped.
In India we have the proverb that if someone speaks ill of the other he
partakes his sin....
If you call someone a fool, then the vibrations of foolery have been spread
in the whole creation and that foolery will return back to you, from all
sides.
Because man has that highly evolved nervous system. This great
responsibility is on to man and not to animals. The responsibility of good
and bad deeds, sin and virtue, this is for man and not for animals. Because
man is in that position to understand how the Karma acts, how his action
influences the whole creation and then he is influenced back by the same....
Try to do all good that you can, all your energy in doing good, but don't
put your energy in criticizing the bad of someone. It is a waste of energy.
Because, now when you are meditating, you are bringing that stable state of
bliss consciousness in your mind. That is sublimenting the state of the
mind. At this state, if you keep on bringing bad things talking ill of
others and thinking of sin done by others then you are neutralizing the
power that you are gaining from the absolute....
Nothing is more elevating than bringing the mind to the absolute being and
nothing is more damaging than talking something bad or reflecting something
sinful. Nothing is more damaging than this. Getting to the transcendent is
the direct way to heaven and talking ill of someone or thinking bad of
someone or reflecting on the sin done by someone is a direct way to hell.
No greater crime can one commit than talking ill or thinking ill of
something done by someone. Save yourself from your mind going to the bad
things.
You do good to the extent you can do, but don't think of bad done by
others....
The responsibility is more on to those who are more evolved. Now we are all
on the path on very swift, high evolution and therefore we have to be
extremely cautious what we think and what we speak. Don't bring bad things,
wrong things done by others to your mind and don't let that mind be spoiled
which is infused with God consciousness.
