Re: [FairfieldLife] Psychological time during meditation

2005-08-13 Thread Vaj

On Aug 12, 2005, at 10:41 PM, hyperbolicgeometry wrote:

>   I found it interesting that Benson borrowed an important concept from
> TM (since he was initiated into it long ago): that if you are
> consciously aware of a thought, innocently recognize it without using
> mental force to manipulate the mind; then allow the next thought to
> enter the mind...something like that (can't remember the exact words
> Benson used but it had a distinctive TM/MMY flavor).

While this is used in TM, it's also used in many forms of meditation.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Psychological time during meditation

2005-08-12 Thread Rick Archer
on 8/12/05 9:41 PM, hyperbolicgeometry at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

>   I found it interesting that Benson borrowed an important concept from
> TM (since he was initiated into it long ago):

To my knowledge he never got initiated. I drove him from Harvard down to
Yale and back one time during the days when the TMO was using him as a
spokesman. He felt that getting initiated would compromise his objectivity.





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[FairfieldLife] Psychological time during meditation

2005-08-12 Thread hyperbolicgeometry
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "hyperbolicgeometry" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Get a synchronistic picture of your psychological state before and 
after meditation.  Pics change each minute and are sent in from around 
the world:
http://www.humanclock.com
Click on to the square at top (view the clock); then scroll down to 
where 
it says "random" and click on to it.
Each minute will have a new pic.

On another topic, some of you may have seen Sri Ravi Shankar and Dr. 
Herbert Benson on CNN (Shankar came to Atlanta while Benson was at 
Harvard, consulted as an academic "expert".).
Benson displayed his usual level of ignorance but this is to be 
expected...the average CNN viewer (expect for the Chrstian 
fundamentalists), wouldn't discriminate between various forms of 
meditation/concentration/prayer/breathing exercises.  Benson lumps them 
all together under the rubric of the "relaxation response"; and 
declares them all to be of equal value depending upon which you prefer 
coupled with your religious or non-religious background.
  I found it interesting that Benson borrowed an important concept from 
TM (since he was initiated into it long ago): that if you are 
consciously aware of a thought, innocently recognize it without using 
mental force to manipulate the mind; then allow the next thought to 
enter the mind...something like that (can't remember the exact words 
Benson used but it had a distinctive TM/MMY flavor).
  Benson has carved out a distinctive academic niche for himself at 
Harvard by declaring his "they're all of equal value" manifesto.  I 
suppose that just from a physiological viewpoing, using gross 
parameters of relaxation such as breathing amd heart rate, brain waves, 
skin response, etc; such forms of meditation/prayers/breathing 
excercise might be somewhat equal with ballpark data; but the notion 
of "transcendance" hasn't apparently dawned on Benson, intellectually 
at least.  Maybe he's experienced TC but has concealed the fact.  After 
all, he has an academci career to protect and it's risky to entertain 
ideas far from the mainstream of academia.





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