[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:

 Ah, the patented Steinian Nitpick Lie.  :-)

 Now Judy's going to pretend that 41 instances of I don't lie don't
add
 up to a declaration of I never lie.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?date=anyDM=\
DD=DY=DM2=DD2=DY2=AM=containsAT=a\
uthfriendSM=containsST=MM=containsMT=%22I+don%27t+lie%22charset=UTF\
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?date=anyDM=---\
-DD=DY=DM2=DD2=DY2=AM=containsAT=\
authfriendSM=containsST=MM=containsMT=%22I+don%27t+lie%22charset=UT\
F-8

Since I belatedly realized that this search is done in the old Yahoo
interface and that possibly not everyone can see it, here are a few
highlights:

Oct 5, 2013, in message #359820
I don't lie or twist or reshuffle.

Aug 13, 2013, in message #353409
I'm not the Queen of anything, but as you know, Nabby, I don't lie

Aug 13, 2013, in message #353336
Plus which, they know I don't lie, and they know you *do* lie.

Feb 12, 2013, in message #335232
Um, no, it's because they know I don't lie.

Jan 26, 2013, in message #333579
I don't lie, and I deny only what is not true.

Mar 12, 2012, in message #306217
Oops, no, Raunchy and I don't lie.

Mar 1, 2012, in message #305356
There are no lies in the paragraph. I sometimes make mistakes, but I
don't lie.

Jan 9, 2012, in message #301381
I'm tough, but I'm pretty fair; I don't lie; I usually check my facts;
and I rarely make gratuitous attacks. Nor do I dump nastily on posters
who respectfully and sincerely say things I don't agree with.

Oct 31, 2011, in message #293675
Vaj has never caught me in a lie, for the simple reason that I don't
lie.

Jul 12, 2011, in message #282357
Since Judy doesn't lie, it's not possible for her to be lying *again*.
Vaj knows I don't lie.

Apr 11, 2011, in message #274245
Whatever my other faults may be, I don't lie.

Oct 31, 2010, in message #260625
I don't lie. I'm not a hypocrite.

Oct 11, 2010, in message #259089
As you and Vaj well know, I don't lie.

Jan 26, 2010, in message #239742
I don't lie about Barry. It's his lies that create the battle.

Jan 3, 2009, in message #203765
In contrast, I don't lie, and I do my damndest to be fair.

Jan 3, 2009, in message #203746
Vaj knows I don't lie, so his comment above is itself a lie.

Aug 17, 2008, in message #187141
Funny thing is, nobody has ever caught me in a lie in any Internet
forum. You know why? It's because there isn't anything to catch. I don't
lie.

Mar 15, 2008, in message #170153
However, I'm not duplicitous, mendacious, dishonest, or disingenuous.
And I don't lie, either.

Dec 3, 2007, in message #156651
As Vaj knows, I don't lie. I haven't lied before, and I wasn't lying
here.

Sep 25, 2007, in message #149814
Nope, I don't lie, Vaj. Don't project.

May 22, 2006, in message #98982
BTW, I don't lie, nor do I rewrite history.



   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  Judy Stein wrote:
 
   Barry wrote:

Which of the people you have claimed were phonies, for
   instance, have ever said something as stupid
and as *obviously* untrue as I never lie?
 
   YOU. Many times, pretending to quote me.
 
YOU have said this, many times,
 
   I can't find one single instance in the archives of my ever having
 said those words here.
 
   Can you?
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
It's not complicated: In one post Judy says the TM bijas are not the 
names of the Hindu gods. In the other post, she denies posting that the 
TM bija are not the names of the Hindu gods.


So, which is it? Did Judy post that the TM bijas are not the names of 
the Hindu gods, or didn't she?


It looks like to me that Judy posted that the TM bijas are not the names 
of the Hindu gods, so why would she deny posting that, when it's right 
there in the archives?


From the archives:

Judy posted:

Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever 
it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the 
deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).


http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436

Judy posted:

Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the
Hindu gods.  The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of
their own.

https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental

On 11/28/2013 10:13 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:


Yes, they can Richard.  That's what I don't understand and why I was 
asking.  If you can't explain said allegation, why don't you let let 
it go?  It appears to be taking up valuable space in your brain.  You 
and Rita have a good day.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

It's not complicated: Judy posted both statements, both can't be true.

On 11/27/2013 9:54 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

Richard, seriously, I just don't understand what you are saying here. 
Instead of reposting and reposting the same thing, can you, in 
detail, explain how, based on the words in the two sentences in 
question, you are coming to said conclusion of Judy lying?  If you 
are all bent out of shape about Judy, just objectively review the two 
statements and explain how the two sentences that you keep reposting 
proves a lie.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:


Well, I'm quoting it because you posted it. You're not doing a very 
good job of explaining what you meant. So, did you or did you not 
post this?


Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, 
whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames 
of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).


http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436

Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the
Hindu gods.  The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of
their own.

https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/1bJzUyLPecQ


P.S. This may be lost on you, but I'm pretty sure Barry and Share can 
understand what you posted. It looks to me like you are trying to 
wiggle out of owning your own words. Not that anyone cares what you 
say these days,anyway. Go figure.


On 11/27/2013 3:50 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

I don't know why you keep quoting stuff that documents the fact that 
you were lying, but that's your problem.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:


The most reliable proof is to post the message number and the URL to 
the actual words, like when I posted your own words and the URL to 
see them, and you still called me a liar.


Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, 
whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames 
of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).


http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436

...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu 
gods have perfectly good names of their own.


Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and 
dreaming?

Author: Judy Stein
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
http://tinyurl.com/9gxse

On 11/27/2013 9:11 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:


*Hey, Barry, have a look at this. It's fascinating. *

*
Xeno wrote:
*

/*10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth*/

http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/

We are not face-to-face on FFL, it's all words, words,
words. There are those here who make a big deal of their
integrity. Perhaps that is a suspect trait.

*Um, or perhaps not. /Legitimately/ suspect, that is.*

Me, I think the most reliable way to tell if someone is a
liar is whether there is documented evidence that they have
lied. (That's why a functioning Search feature is so
frightening to Barry.)













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-28 Thread Richard J. Williams

It's not complicated: Judy posted both statements, both can't be true.

On 11/27/2013 9:54 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:


Richard, seriously, I just don't understand what you are saying here. 
Instead of reposting and reposting the same thing, can you, in detail, 
explain how, based on the words in the two sentences in question, you 
are coming to said conclusion of Judy lying?  If you are all bent 
out of shape about Judy, just objectively review the two statements 
and explain how the two sentences that you keep reposting proves a lie.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

Well, I'm quoting it because you posted it. You're not doing a very 
good job of explaining what you meant. So, did you or did you not post 
this?


Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, 
whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of 
the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).


http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436

Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the
Hindu gods.  The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of
their own.

https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/1bJzUyLPecQ


P.S. This may be lost on you, but I'm pretty sure Barry and Share can 
understand what you posted. It looks to me like you are trying to 
wiggle out of owning your own words. Not that anyone cares what you 
say these days,anyway. Go figure.


On 11/27/2013 3:50 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

I don't know why you keep quoting stuff that documents the fact that 
you were lying, but that's your problem.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:


The most reliable proof is to post the message number and the URL to 
the actual words, like when I posted your own words and the URL to 
see them, and you still called me a liar.


Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, 
whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames 
of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).


http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436

...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu 
gods have perfectly good names of their own.


Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and 
dreaming?

Author: Judy Stein
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
http://tinyurl.com/9gxse

On 11/27/2013 9:11 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:


*Hey, Barry, have a look at this. It's fascinating. *

*
Xeno wrote:
*

/*10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth*/

http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/

We are not face-to-face on FFL, it's all words, words,
words. There are those here who make a big deal of their
integrity. Perhaps that is a suspect trait.

*Um, or perhaps not. /Legitimately/ suspect, that is.*

Me, I think the most reliable way to tell if someone is a
liar is whether there is documented evidence that they have
lied. (That's why a functioning Search feature is so
frightening to Barry.)











RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-28 Thread authfriend
All you're going to get from Richard is trollage, Emily. I guarantee it.
 
Emily wrote:

  Richard, seriously, I just don't understand what you are saying here. 
  Instead of reposting and reposting 
  the same thing, can you, in detail, explain how, based on the words in the 
  two sentences in question, you 
  are coming to said conclusion of Judy lying?  If you are all bent out of 
  shape about Judy, just objectively 
  review the two statements and explain how the two sentences that you keep 
  reposting proves a lie.  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Well, I'm quoting it because you posted it. You're not doing a very good job 
of explaining what you meant. So, did you or did you not post this?
 
 Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it 
is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities 
(whatever nicknames means in this context).
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436
 
 Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the
 Hindu gods.  The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of
 their own.
 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/1bJzUyLPecQ
 
 P.S. This may be lost on you, but I'm pretty sure Barry and Share can 
understand what you posted. It looks to me like you are trying to wiggle out of 
owning your own words. Not that anyone cares what you say these days,anyway. Go 
figure.
 
 On 11/27/2013 3:50 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   I don't know why you keep quoting stuff that documents the fact that you 
were lying, but that's your problem. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 The most reliable proof is to post the message number and the URL to the 
actual words, like when I posted your own words and the URL to see them, and 
you still called me a liar.
 
 Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it 
is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities 
(whatever nicknames means in this context).
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436
 
 ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have 
perfectly good names of their own.
 
 Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming?
 Author: Judy Stein
 Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
 Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
 http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse
 
 On 11/27/2013 9:11 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Hey, Barry, have a look at this. It's fascinating. 
 
 Xeno wrote:
 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
 http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ 
http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ We are not face-to-face on 
FFL, it's all words, words, words. There are those here who make a big deal of 
their integrity. Perhaps that is a suspect trait. Um, or perhaps not. 
Legitimately suspect, that is. Me, I think the most reliable way to tell if 
someone is a liar is whether there is documented evidence that they have lied. 
(That's why a functioning Search feature is so frightening to Barry.) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-28 Thread emilymaenot
Yes, I see.  It's weird.  Have a wonderful day.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 All you're going to get from Richard is trollage, Emily. I guarantee it.
 
Emily wrote:

  Richard, seriously, I just don't understand what you are saying here. 
  Instead of reposting and reposting 
  the same thing, can you, in detail, explain how, based on the words in the 
  two sentences in question, you 
  are coming to said conclusion of Judy lying?  If you are all bent out of 
  shape about Judy, just objectively 
  review the two statements and explain how the two sentences that you keep 
  reposting proves a lie.  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Well, I'm quoting it because you posted it. You're not doing a very good job 
of explaining what you meant. So, did you or did you not post this?
 
 Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it 
is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities 
(whatever nicknames means in this context).
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436
 
 Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the
 Hindu gods.  The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of
 their own.
 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/1bJzUyLPecQ
 
 P.S. This may be lost on you, but I'm pretty sure Barry and Share can 
understand what you posted. It looks to me like you are trying to wiggle out of 
owning your own words. Not that anyone cares what you say these days,anyway. Go 
figure.
 
 On 11/27/2013 3:50 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   I don't know why you keep quoting stuff that documents the fact that you 
were lying, but that's your problem. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 The most reliable proof is to post the message number and the URL to the 
actual words, like when I posted your own words and the URL to see them, and 
you still called me a liar.
 
 Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it 
is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities 
(whatever nicknames means in this context).
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436
 
 ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have 
perfectly good names of their own.
 
 Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming?
 Author: Judy Stein
 Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
 Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
 http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse
 
 On 11/27/2013 9:11 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Hey, Barry, have a look at this. It's fascinating. 
 
 Xeno wrote:
 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
 http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ 
http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ We are not face-to-face on 
FFL, it's all words, words, words. There are those here who make a big deal of 
their integrity. Perhaps that is a suspect trait. Um, or perhaps not. 
Legitimately suspect, that is. Me, I think the most reliable way to tell if 
someone is a liar is whether there is documented evidence that they have lied. 
(That's why a functioning Search feature is so frightening to Barry.) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 







RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-28 Thread emilymaenot
Yes, they can Richard.  That's what I don't understand and why I was asking.  
If you can't explain said allegation, why don't you let let it go?  It appears 
to be taking up valuable space in your brain.  You and Rita have a good day.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 It's not complicated: Judy posted both statements, both can't be true. 
 
 On 11/27/2013 9:54 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:
 
   Richard, seriously, I just don't understand what you are saying here. 
Instead of reposting and reposting the same thing, can you, in detail, explain 
how, based on the words in the two sentences in question, you are coming to 
said conclusion of Judy lying?  If you are all bent out of shape about Judy, 
just objectively review the two statements and explain how the two sentences 
that you keep reposting proves a lie.  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 Well, I'm quoting it because you posted it. You're not doing a very good job 
of explaining what you meant. So, did you or did you not post this?
 
 Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it 
is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities 
(whatever nicknames means in this context).
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436
 
 Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the
 Hindu gods.  The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of
 their own.
 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/1bJzUyLPecQ
 
 P.S. This may be lost on you, but I'm pretty sure Barry and Share can 
understand what you posted. It looks to me like you are trying to wiggle out of 
owning your own words. Not that anyone cares what you say these days,anyway. Go 
figure.
 
 On 11/27/2013 3:50 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   I don't know why you keep quoting stuff that documents the fact that you 
were lying, but that's your problem. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 The most reliable proof is to post the message number and the URL to the 
actual words, like when I posted your own words and the URL to see them, and 
you still called me a liar.
 
 Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it 
is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities 
(whatever nicknames means in this context).
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436
 
 ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have 
perfectly good names of their own.
 
 Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming?
 Author: Judy Stein
 Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
 Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
 http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse
 
 On 11/27/2013 9:11 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Hey, Barry, have a look at this. It's fascinating. 
 
 Xeno wrote:
 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
 http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ 
http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ We are not face-to-face on 
FFL, it's all words, words, words. There are those here who make a big deal of 
their integrity. Perhaps that is a suspect trait. Um, or perhaps not. 
Legitimately suspect, that is. Me, I think the most reliable way to tell if 
someone is a liar is whether there is documented evidence that they have lied. 
(That's why a functioning Search feature is so frightening to Barry.) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] RE: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-27 Thread authfriend
Hey, Barry, have a look at this. It's fascinating. 
 
Xeno wrote:
 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
 http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ 
http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ We are not face-to-face on 
FFL, it's all words, words, words. There are those here who make a big deal of 
their integrity. Perhaps that is a suspect trait. Um, or perhaps not. 
Legitimately suspect, that is. Me, I think the most reliable way to tell if 
someone is a liar is whether there is documented evidence that they have lied. 
(That's why a functioning Search feature is so frightening to Barry.) 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-27 Thread TurquoiseB
I think the solution to all of this kerfuffle is simple, and what Judy
really wants:

Always believe Judy.

Because, as she has said many times,

I never lie.

Researchers into lying would find this claim rather suspect, because in
their studies they've never found a single individual who *never* lies.

But forget that, because Judy has *other* talents, which she has
espoused often (although possibly not in these words):

I *know* what he/she really meant.

He/she *knows* this isn't true. (And she knows that.)

So just do what Judy wants. Believe everything she says, and treat it as
if it were Truth Incarnate. And treat her as the ULTIMATE AUTHORITY IN
ALL THINGS she so longs to be perceived as.

Ignore the part about her being a fuckin' loon.





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
The most reliable proof is to post the message number and the URL to the 
actual words, like when I posted your own words and the URL to see them, 
and you still called me a liar.


Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever 
it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the 
deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).


http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436

...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods 
have perfectly good names of their own.


Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and 
dreaming?

Author: Judy Stein
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
http://tinyurl.com/9gxse

On 11/27/2013 9:11 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


*Hey, Barry, have a look at this. It's fascinating. *

*
Xeno wrote:
*

/*10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth*/

http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/

We are not face-to-face on FFL, it's all words, words, words.
There are those here who make a big deal of their integrity.
Perhaps that is a suspect trait.

*Um, or perhaps not. /Legitimately/ suspect, that is.*

Me, I think the most reliable way to tell if someone is a liar
is whether there is documented evidence that they have lied.
(That's why a functioning Search feature is so frightening to
Barry.)







RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-27 Thread authfriend
I don't know why you keep quoting stuff that documents the fact that you were 
lying, but that's your problem. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 The most reliable proof is to post the message number and the URL to the 
actual words, like when I posted your own words and the URL to see them, and 
you still called me a liar.
 
 Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it 
is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities 
(whatever nicknames means in this context).
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436
 
 ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have 
perfectly good names of their own.
 
 Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming?
 Author: Judy Stein
 Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
 Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
 http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse
 
 On 11/27/2013 9:11 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Hey, Barry, have a look at this. It's fascinating. 
 
 Xeno wrote:
 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
 http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ 
http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ We are not face-to-face on 
FFL, it's all words, words, words. There are those here who make a big deal of 
their integrity. Perhaps that is a suspect trait. Um, or perhaps not. 
Legitimately suspect, that is. Me, I think the most reliable way to tell if 
someone is a liar is whether there is documented evidence that they have lied. 
(That's why a functioning Search feature is so frightening to Barry.) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-27 Thread Richard J. Williams
Well, I'm quoting it because you posted it. You're not doing a very good 
job of explaining what you meant. So, did you or did you not post this?


Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever 
it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the 
deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).


http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436

Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the
Hindu gods.  The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of
their own.

https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/1bJzUyLPecQ


P.S. This may be lost on you, but I'm pretty sure Barry and Share can 
understand what you posted. It looks to me like you are trying to wiggle 
out of owning your own words. Not that anyone cares what you say these 
days,anyway. Go figure.


On 11/27/2013 3:50 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


I don't know why you keep quoting stuff that documents the fact that 
you were lying, but that's your problem.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

The most reliable proof is to post the message number and the URL to 
the actual words, like when I posted your own words and the URL to see 
them, and you still called me a liar.


Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, 
whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of 
the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context).


http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436

...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu 
gods have perfectly good names of their own.


Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and 
dreaming?

Author: Judy Stein
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
http://tinyurl.com/9gxse

On 11/27/2013 9:11 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:


*Hey, Barry, have a look at this. It's fascinating. *

*
Xeno wrote:
*

/*10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth*/

http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/

We are not face-to-face on FFL, it's all words, words, words.
There are those here who make a big deal of their integrity.
Perhaps that is a suspect trait.

*Um, or perhaps not. /Legitimately/ suspect, that is.*

Me, I think the most reliable way to tell if someone is a
liar is whether there is documented evidence that they have
lied. (That's why a functioning Search feature is so
frightening to Barry.)









RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth

2013-11-27 Thread emilymaenot
Richard, seriously, I just don't understand what you are saying here. Instead 
of reposting and reposting the same thing, can you, in detail, explain how, 
based on the words in the two sentences in question, you are coming to said 
conclusion of Judy lying?  If you are all bent out of shape about Judy, just 
objectively review the two statements and explain how the two sentences that 
you keep reposting proves a lie.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Well, I'm quoting it because you posted it. You're not doing a very good job 
of explaining what you meant. So, did you or did you not post this?
 
 Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it 
is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities 
(whatever nicknames means in this context).
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436
 
 Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the
 Hindu gods.  The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of
 their own.
 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/1bJzUyLPecQ
 
 P.S. This may be lost on you, but I'm pretty sure Barry and Share can 
understand what you posted. It looks to me like you are trying to wiggle out of 
owning your own words. Not that anyone cares what you say these days,anyway. Go 
figure.
 
 On 11/27/2013 3:50 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   I don't know why you keep quoting stuff that documents the fact that you 
were lying, but that's your problem. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 The most reliable proof is to post the message number and the URL to the 
actual words, like when I posted your own words and the URL to see them, and 
you still called me a liar.
 
 Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it 
is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities 
(whatever nicknames means in this context).
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436
 
 ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have 
perfectly good names of their own.
 
 Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming?
 Author: Judy Stein
 Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
 Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm
 http://tinyurl.com/9gxse http://tinyurl.com/9gxse
 
 On 11/27/2013 9:11 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Hey, Barry, have a look at this. It's fascinating. 
 
 Xeno wrote:
 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
 http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ 
http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ We are not face-to-face on 
FFL, it's all words, words, words. There are those here who make a big deal of 
their integrity. Perhaps that is a suspect trait. Um, or perhaps not. 
Legitimately suspect, that is. Me, I think the most reliable way to tell if 
someone is a liar is whether there is documented evidence that they have lied. 
(That's why a functioning Search feature is so frightening to Barry.)