RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
Yeah, to promote, or oppose something, obsessively, is to get on its same energy level - both sides of the same issue. There is still no independence - no calmness, which is only found by transcending the issue, broadening the consciousness so that additional possibilities occur, without conflict. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Doc, I had a similar thought about turq. So, the question for me is: what makes a person an evangelist, even of not being an evangelist? I'd say how attached to or averted by or gripped by the thought or believe or POV or emotion or state one is. I actually think it's hard to see not only in ourselves, but also in others. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:33 AM, "doctordumbass@..." wrote: Hey non-evangelist, evangelist, Have you ever actually *read* one of your own posts? You push you beliefs around here, like a steamroller. The pot calling the kettle black. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: > > At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html > > http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html >
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
Doc, I had a similar thought about turq. So, the question for me is: what makes a person an evangelist, even of not being an evangelist? I'd say how attached to or averted by or gripped by the thought or believe or POV or emotion or state one is. I actually think it's hard to see not only in ourselves, but also in others. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:33 AM, "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" wrote: Hey non-evangelist, evangelist, Have you ever actually *read* one of your own posts? You push you beliefs around here, like a steamroller. The pot calling the kettle black. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: > >> At least they believe in something. > >And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: >> >> http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html >> > >
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
Hey non-evangelist, evangelist, Have you ever actually *read* one of your own posts? You push you beliefs around here, like a steamroller. The pot calling the kettle black. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: > > At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html > > http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html >
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize ..I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. At least they believe in something. No, not just “whatever”. Except that there are social beliefs that are spiritually healthful and then asocial individual beliefs that are unhealthy and harmfully bad. Manifestly. People need to be regulated by policy (church group?) to be able to live well together for their own safety. We've evolved that way. Ultimately that is why we have wise parents, teachers, and saints to teach us and then their administrators to evangelize us. We should thank the Unified Field for public education that saves us all from ignorance and progresses us on as a race spiritually. That is called acculturation in evolutionary altruism. We would be nothing without each other and learning how to live together with policy guidelines. Just t to say that everybody believes in something and that everything is fine is such whishy feely that begs the question of what things are in fact spiritually better for people. Public health policy. You may as well just go lay down in the mud and take your own step back in evolution if you don't agree with this. We proly should be protected from you, your stinking corpse and that thinking if that is the case. Jeesus that is crossing a line of spine-lessness. Son take a stand. Here in this church of FFL, you're either for meditation or against it. It is the part of a larger evolutionary altruism and a great fight of moral character. Evolutionarily, some people obviously are better at groups than other people. And, some times groups need to protect themselves from the asocial effect of bad fruitcakes only just to exist as groups for larger spiritually social benefit. I am all in favor of moderation, in the form of effective individual meditation, collectively for the greater good. The science cries out for this very public policy for all our good. Our experience cries out for this too. Change begins within but we need organization to affect evolution. Are you with us? =Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: > > At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html > > http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html >
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
Yeah, that's a good thing, as long as it's life supporting. How about the teen age atheists of England?, they apparently don't believe in anything, and you know the old saying, "if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything". (Like the mess the world is in today.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: > > At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html > > http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html >