[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
It seems to me that the advent of thousands of uncertified TM teachers might be Nature's way of telling the movement that it does not own this knowledge and that it even transcends MMY's approval if he is obstructing it's spread. Nothing stops evolution. It's entirely possible that the movement realizes there is nothing legal they can do despite bluffs (common in legal proceedings) and they are trying to tighten the loophole with new legal agreements in the recertification program. Maybe God (Nature) wants a free maketplace of new meditators who are taught by trained teachers who owe their allegiance to God rather than an organization or guru. Hey. With the New Organisation were uncertified TM-Teachers not longer is a part of, MMY has cancelled the former agreements with the uncertified TM-Teachers, either he is aware of it or not. In my opinion the uncertified TM-Teachers have an unique knowledge to share with other people. We can be a part of the evolution in a positive way. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
The sky is the limit. You can have your own residence courses and explore marma therapy for six hours a day, or learn tankha painting or do tai chi and round, or just round like ten times a day, or play rock music, have orgies, it is the new age all over again. Anyone who thinks heaven on earth comes with some dorky looking crown and seven hours a day of meditation isn't asking for much. - Original Message - From: marwincornyarmand To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:07 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER It seems to me that the advent of thousands of "uncertified" TMteachers might be Nature's way of telling the movement that it doesnot own this knowledge and that it even transcends MMY's approval ifhe is obstructing it's spread. Nothing stops evolution. It's entirelypossible that the movement realizes there is nothing legal they can dodespite bluffs (common in legal proceedings) and they are trying totighten the loophole with new legal agreements in the recertificationprogram. Maybe God (Nature) wants a free maketplace of new meditatorswho are taught by trained teachers who owe their allegiance to Godrather than an organization or guru.Hey.With the "New Organisation" were "uncertified "TM-Teachers not longer is a part of, MMY has cancelled the former agreements with the "uncertified TM-Teachers", either he is aware of it or not. In my opinion the "uncertified" TM-Teachers have an unique knowledge to share with other people. We can be a part of the evolution in a positive way. IngegerdTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Good for you, Jane. More power to you. Stick to your guns. Thank you! The fight is over - now I just enjoy. Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Probably not, but for some reason you sound familiar. What do you charge for TM? -Peter Hey. For working people approx. 480 Dollar, less for students. If people don't have money, they learn for free. I do not refuse anyone because they do not have money. It is a great releave to initiate without the money-stress. And the students have great experiences. I initiate in small groups, often 1 or two people at the time. It is much better for the students than the big courses we used to have. In Ukraina I initiated 125 persons a day - just terrible. My small groups meets with each other after a while to experience meditating together. Jane To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Is it maybe time for an unofficial global network of unrecertified TM teachers listed on the net, via a dedicated webpage...? Could even rekindle the lost spirit of the Movement and be open to feedback and suggestions from meditators, for a change... call it iTM (independent Transcendental Meditators..) Hey. I think that is a great idea. I will never again - repeat: NEVER AGAIN join a new organisation - but I think it is a lot of confused TM- teachers out there who really want to initiate, but is hanging up in their minds with the TMO. If I can be to any help with my experience - I will be happy for that. By the way, my real name is Ingegerd, so let us use that for the future. Ingegerd (Jane) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Well, if you have a web site, what is it, please. I would think by this time there'd be no reason not to identify yourself. How did you not resist posting after lurking for so long? Lurk You are probably right. My webside is: http://www.mikinorge.no http://transcendentalmeditasjon.no Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
i am curious, in what sense did you win over the TMO? was it a moral victory where you just persevered and nobody was gonna stop you? or was it a legal victory, setting a legal precedent for independent TM teaching. a friend of mine has been teaching TM at the old rates for quite some time, and he is always busy initiating new people. i would like to tell him about your legal victory, if thats what you meant ;-) g. The TMO did not take me to the Court. The treathen to do it, and I said Do it. Then they withdraw. But you have to know the law and use a lawyer who is tough. You have rights as a citizen of a democracy - bless the democracy. The TMO is in some way afraid of the reputation, - and a courtcase could destroy the TMO completely. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Check out http://tinyurl.com/ae8lr on 5/4/05 10:56 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you have a web site, what is it, please. I would think by this time there'd be no reason not to identify yourself. How did you not resist posting after lurking for so long? Lurk You are probably right. My webside is: http://www.mikinorge.no http://transcendentalmeditasjon.no Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
You mentioned in your first email that teachers were especially disturbed after or because of the recert course. Do you mean teachers who took the course or didn't or both? Please elaborate. I meant TM-Teacher that has been waiting for better times and did not go to the recert. course. Some of them feel that they are nothing anymore and have quite a process to go with their owns feelings. Some are initiating more or less in secret. I have not spoken to recertified teachers. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
on 5/4/05 11:24 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mentioned in your first email that teachers were especially disturbed after or because of the recert course. Do you mean teachers who took the course or didn't or both? Please elaborate. I meant TM-Teacher that has been waiting for better times and did not go to the recert. course. Some of them feel that they are nothing anymore and have quite a process to go with their owns feelings. Some are initiating more or less in secret. I have not spoken to recertified teachers. What is Svend Trier doing these days? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
What is Svend Trier doing these days? I do not know - have not heard about him for years. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
on 5/4/05 11:57 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Svend Trier doing these days? I do not know - have not heard about him for years. Not active in the movement then, I presume. Just Googled him and came up with http://www.artpeople.dk/Svend_Trier__Booking_af_foredr.595.0.html, but I can't read it. What does it say? Many other results, if you Google his name. For those who don't know him, he was the National Leader of Norway for many years. Was a friend of mine at Estes Park. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Not active in the movement then, I presume. Just Googled him and came up with http://www.artpeople.dk/Svend_Trier__Booking_af_foredr.595.0.html, but I can't read it. What does it say? Many other results, if you Google his name. For those who don't know him, he was the National Leader of Norway for many years. Was a friend of mine at Estes Park. Hey. Svend Trier was the National Leader i Denmark - the youngest National Leader ever. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
That's cool. Looks like you will have to have your own residence courses as well. Have you considered that? - Original Message - From: marwincornyarmand To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER Probably not, but for some reason you "sound"familiar. What do you charge for TM?-PeterHey.For working people approx. 480 Dollar, less for students. If people don't have money, they learn for free. I do not refuse anyone because they do not have money. It is a great releave to initiate without the money-stress. And the students have great experiences. I initiate in small groups, often 1 or two people at the time. It is much better for the students than the big courses we used to have. In Ukraina I initiated 125 persons a day - just terrible.My small groups meets with each other after a while to experience meditating together.JaneTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Not active in the movement then, I presume. Just Googled him and came up with http://www.artpeople.dk/Svend_Trier__Booking_af_foredr.595.0.html, but I can't read it. What does it say? Many other results, if you Google his name. For those who don't know him, he was the National Leader of Norway for many years. Was a friend of mine at Estes Park. It seems that Svein Trier is working with cultural things, making arrangement for musicians, writers etc. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Did'nt he join Chopra ? After Chopra left TMO, we were not allowed to even mention his name. Svein Trier did arrange a seminar in Denmark with Chopra, and felt in disgrace. The punishment for this hit all the TM-Teachers in Denmark. For years they was not allowed to meet MMY -. Every time I was in Vlodrop, the denish TM-Teachers was treated as person - none - grate, not existing persons. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Interesting. Well, Svend is a cool guy. Very self-possessed and wise even as a very young man. I can't read all those Danish web sites you get when you Google his name, but if you can see his email address on any of them, I'd appreciate having it. on 5/4/05 1:56 PM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did'nt he join Chopra ? After Chopra left TMO, we were not allowed to even mention his name. Svein Trier did arrange a seminar in Denmark with Chopra, and felt in disgrace. The punishment for this hit all the TM-Teachers in Denmark. For years they was not allowed to meet MMY -. Every time I was in Vlodrop, the denish TM-Teachers was treated as person - none - grate, not existing persons. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
i added 2 more links, for my friend Paul Brown, who was TM Center Chairman in San Francisco 1989-1995, who now sucessfully teaches real TM Independently, both in the Bay Area, and elsewhere by request. Business is booming! g. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER Check out http://tinyurl.com/ae8lron 5/4/05 10:56 AM, marwincornyarmand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you have a web site, what is it, please. I would think by this time there'd be no reason not to identify yourself. How did you not resist posting after lurking for so long? Lurk You are probably right. My webside is: http://www.mikinorge.no http://transcendentalmeditasjon.no IngegerdTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER on 5/4/05 2:41 PM, George DeForest at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i added 2 more links, for my friend Paul Brown, who was TM Center Chairman in San Francisco 1989-1995, who now sucessfully teaches real TM Independently, both in the Bay Area, and elsewhere by request. Business is booming! I fixed capitalization in the descriptions, but it changed the editor name to my name. would you please make another small edit on each of them, such as adding a period after the descriptions? That will change the editor name back to your name, and it wont look like I posted them all. Not that Im trying to salvage my movement status or anything. Toast is toast. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:BURGER. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i added 2 more links, for my friend Paul Brown, who was TM Center Chairman in San Francisco 1989-1995, who now sucessfully teaches real TM Independently, both in the Bay Area, and elsewhere by request. Business is booming! Rick Archer wrote: I fixed capitalization in the descriptions, but it changed the editor name to my name. would you please make another small edit on each of them, such as adding a period after the descriptions? That will change the editor name back to your name, and it won't look like I posted them all. Not that I'm trying to salvage my movement status or anything. Toast is toast. ha, ha...toast IS toast...BE the toast! but now that the website set you as the poster, it will no longer allow me to edit!! doesnt matter! g. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
