Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-03 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 2/2/08 11:55:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If he  ends up back in the White House, he could possibly be there 
longer than  any other president= 16 years...think about it!



America going thru Shani Shani twice in my life  time!



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-03 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 2/3/08 12:06:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The  blame is more with the whole thing that's being strummed up in the  
election, of Washington being broken: too much noise in the  system...
Too much divisiveness. Bush and the Clintons seem to invite  
divisiveness.
That's the whole theme of the Obama campaign, to amend  these tendencies.
Time will tell, whether that is even possible, or whether  we will just 
hold on to what is familiar in a time of  change.




I agree, but the only solution is that oil and water will mix.  
Conservativism and Capitalism just will not mix with Liberalism and Socialism.  
No matter 
how much Obama could be respected and even adored for his character  and 
personality, his ideas and direction he wants to take the country will be  
fought 
tooth and nail. His side is not going to accept what the other side wants  and 
vice versa. Oil and water will not Unite.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-02 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 2/1/08 7:10:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

9/11  happened on Bush's watch. Period.
 Maybe if Bush spent more time  assuming responsibility
 instead of blaming Clinton 


Excuse me, when did Bush ever blame Clinton for 9/11 and when did Bubba  ever 
blame Bush?



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-02 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 2/1/08 6:43:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Oh  please Robert. A good liberal and Democrat never misses an 
opportunity to  
 blame anything on Bush or the nasty Republicans and never places any  
fault on 
 one of their own.


Because he had a real  chance to wack bin Laden many times during his 
administration:
If he  had more insight and sense of the urgency of the time.
He was distracted by  the impeachment and so on.
He left a vacumn that dubya came in to  fill.




A, there you go! Back to true form. It was the Republicans fault he  
didn't wack Bin Laden. He had several opportunities that were  missed.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-02 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 2/1/08 7:10:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 9/11  happened on Bush's watch. Period.
  Maybe if Bush spent more time  assuming responsibility
  instead of blaming Clinton 


Get your attributions right, Dixon. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
snip
 The thing about the sex thing, Clinton obviously had a sex-
 addiction problem, if you read his biography and the history
 of his addiction as governor and through the years.

Which biography was this, Robert? And who wrote it?

 I think the sex-addiction thing, helped the Republicans get
 elected in 2000

If you'll recall, what helped the Republicans get
elected in 2000 was a Supreme Court decision 
prohibiting a recount in Florida despite massive
voting irregularities that almost certainly cost
Gore the state--even though Gore had won the popular
vote.

What also helped the Republicans get elected was
the enthusiastic cooperation of the media in
spreading the Republicans' lies about Al Gore.

Again: Gore won the popular vote by a significant
margin, losing Florida by only a few hundred votes,
*despite* Clinton's sex-addiction thing and the
blatant anti-Gore bias in the media.

The sex-addiction thing wouldn't have been a 
problem for Clinton--any more than it was for
Jack Kennedy, who by all accounts also had a sex
addiction--were it not for the Republicans'
determination to bring Clinton down even if they
had to use the sleaziest of tactics, and, again,
the eager cooperation of the media with this
goal.

 And I think he got so angry about the conspiracy 9/11 talk the 
 other day, Because he had a real chance to wack bin Laden many
 times during his administration: If he had more insight and sense
 of the urgency of the time.

Au contraire, Pierre. Clinton's determination to
get bin Laden was frustrated at every turn. He
never had a clear shot.

See, for example:

http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2002/01/15/clinton/index.html

Don't blame Clinton
by Joe Conason

Summary:
Conservatives who once ridiculed and obstructed the former 
president's aggressive efforts to fight terrorism are now trying to 
pin Sept. 11 on him. They have a lot of nerve.

See also this from Behind Clinton's Hunt for
bin Laden in Newsday, 9/27/06:

...Clinton's record [on bin Laden] is in some way easier to assess 
[than Bush's], given a host of books by Clinton insiders, as well as 
the authoritative 9/11 Commission report.

From those, a picture emerges of a Clinton White House slow at first 
to grasp the global dimensions of the al-Qaida threat, and then 
struggling as it tries to fit Cold War-era intelligence and defense 
policies to a 21st-century menace.

The Clinton administration even wrestled with the question of whether 
they had the legal right to kill bin Laden - a seemingly academic 
question now, in light of the apparent chance to prevent the deaths 
of nearly 3,000 Americans, but one that forced Clinton to rely 
heavily on plans to capture bin Laden at first, the 9/11 Commission 
said.

And even though officials from Clinton on down made clear that he had 
one goal - he wanted bin Laden dead - some of the very CIA officials 
given that task said they were confused whether they had the legal 
right to kill bin Laden, the report said.

White House insiders from that time vigorously deny any reluctance to 
strike, saying Clinton signed increasingly potent orders that would 
have allowed the CIA to kill bin Laden - but that they never had a 
clean shot.

In fact, the missed opportunities catalogued by the 9/11 Commission 
are frustrating to read in retrospect. The Afghan capture plot 
fizzled. Another missile strike fell off the table over fears of 
hitting a mosque. The CIA pulled the plug on a February 1999 plot to 
kill bin Laden at a desert camp, over fears of the United Arab 
Emirates princes.

One missed chance does stand out - an aborted May 1999 strike called 
off because the CIA thought the intelligence was only 50-50. A senior 
military officer told the 9/11 Commission that bin Laden should have 
been a dead man that night.

Daniel Benjamin, who worked on Clinton's National Security Council at 
the time, said the lack of that second hard confirmation on bin 
Laden's presence made it impossible to go forward with further 
strikes. If you couldn't confirm that he was there, then there was a 
risk of killing a lot of innocent people, Benjamin said.

Benjamin also said Clinton twice ordered up military options to 
strike Afghanistan to rout bin Laden, but that the Pentagon offered 
large and unwieldy options that would have been impractical and 
difficult to sell to the American people. Some Republicans in 
Congress even accused Clinton of trying to distract from his problems 
with Monica Lewinsky by striking Afghanistan in 1998.

Some experts concur, saying it's easy to look back now and question 
Clinton but that the nation simply wasn't prepared to take dramatic 
steps against al-Qaida - at least not until after 9/11.

To me, the defense of the Clinton administration is provided by 
President Bush, when he himself says, '9/11 changed everything,' 
said Brian Michael Jenkins, a terrorism expert at Rand, a nonpartisan 
think-tank.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-02 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
From time to time I've seen news clips of heir Bush-boy de
whacko saying that Clinton is to blame, though I have not
made notes of when those videos were photographed nor the
of the context of the moment they were said, though I have
seen Der Bimbo blather such dhiarheal disinformation,
although Billy-boy might shoulda made for deeper
enwhackenation upon heir Laden, though why not I cannot
say, perhaps lack of insight of imperatives, perhaps.



On 2/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  In a message dated 2/1/08 7:10:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. Period.
  Maybe if Bush spent more time assuming responsibility
  instead of blaming Clinton

  Excuse me, when did Bush ever blame Clinton for 9/11 and when did Bubba
 ever blame Bush?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-02 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 2/2/08 6:33:02 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

From  time to time I've seen news clips of heir Bush-boy de
whacko saying that  Clinton is to blame,


You Have? I doubt it. In fact, I'm certain you haven't, unless it's the  
voices in your head. I have never heard Bush blame anybody for 9/11 other  than 
the terrorists themselves. By the way, it's not heir, it's  Herr.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-02 Thread Roberto
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 snip
  The thing about the sex thing, Clinton obviously had a sex-
  addiction problem, if you read his biography and the history
  of his addiction as governor and through the years.
 
 Which biography was this, Robert? And who wrote it?
 
 Bill and Hillary: The Marriage By Christopher P. Andersen
This is quite a story as reviewed below:
 
By any definition they are one of history most remarkable couples; he 
the irresponsible country boy populist oczing ambition and Southern 
charm, she the brilliant, tough-as-nails Midwesterner with a head for 
strategy, a taste for power, and in the end, an unshakable allegiance 
to the man in her life. Together. William Jefferson Clinton and his 
wife; Billiary Rodham, scaled the heights of power and prestige only 
to have his wantonly reckless behavior bring them to the brink of 
personal and political ruin.With never-before revealed informat on 
and behind-the-scenes access that only Christopher Anderson can 
accomplish, Bill and Hillary is certain to make international 
headlines Author of the #1 New York Times bestseller The Day Diana 
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and First Lady, Jack and Jackie (0-688-15312-7) and Jackie after Jack 
(0-688-14760-7), Anderson takes readers on a facinating journey 
inside the marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton.The entity known as 
Bill and Hillary is greater than the sum of its parts The Clintons 
are youthful, brilliant, attractive, complicated sometimes arrogant, 
often mystifying, always controvercial -- but never dull, Sex, money, 
power, lies, and scandal. Each played a role in the making and 
unmaking of the Clinton legacy. Yet whatever the judgment of history, 
the continuing saga of Bill and Hillary is -- above all else -- a 
curious, compelling, and uniquely American love story.




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-02 Thread Roberto
  (snip)
 
   Excuse me, when did Bush ever blame Clinton for 9/11 and when 
did Bubba
  ever blame Bush?

I don't think one ever blamed the other...

What I was commenting on was the inflamed response last week when 
someone suggested while Bill Clinton was speaking, that the 9/11 
thing was a conspiracy...

His strong reaction to the question, made me feel that  perhaps he 
had failed in that arena.

I've also heard Bill Clinton expressed regret for his personal 
failure to prevent the 1994 slaughter of 800,000 people, in the 
Rwandan genocide.

There is no doubt that Bill Clinton is a brilliant and charismatic 
guy.
If he ends up back in the White House, he could possibly be there 
longer than any other president= 16 years...think about it!



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-02 Thread Roberto
  (snip)
 
   Excuse me, when did Bush ever blame Clinton for 9/11 and when 
did Bubba
  ever blame Bush?

I don't think one ever blamed the other...

What I was commenting on was the inflamed response last week when 
someone suggested while Bill Clinton was speaking, that the 9/11 
thing was a conspiracy...

His strong reaction to the question, made me feel that  perhaps he 
had failed in that arena.

I've also heard Bill Clinton expressed regret for his personal 
failure to prevent the 1994 slaughter of 800,000 people, in the 
Rwandan genocide.

There is no doubt that Bill Clinton is a brilliant and charismatic 
guy.
If he ends up back in the White House, he could possibly be there 
longer than any other president= 16 years...think about it!



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-02 Thread Roberto
 (snip)
 He (Clinton) was distracted by  the impeachment and so on.
  
 A, there you go! Back to true form. It was the Republicans fault 
he  
 didn't wack Bin Laden. He had several opportunities that were  missed.

I'm not blaming anyone...

I was just pointing out that there were many missed opportunities 
during the Clinton administration as there have been during the past 
years with Bush.
The blame is more with the whole thing that's being strummed up in the 
election, of Washington being broken: too much noise in the system...
Too much divisiveness. Bush and the Clintons seem to invite 
divisiveness.
That's the whole theme of the Obama campaign, to amend these tendencies.
Time will tell, whether that is even possible, or whether we will just 
hold on to what is familiar in a time of change.
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
  snip
   The thing about the sex thing, Clinton obviously had a sex-
   addiction problem, if you read his biography and the history
   of his addiction as governor and through the years.
  
  Which biography was this, Robert? And who wrote it?
  
  Bill and Hillary: The Marriage By Christopher P. Andersen

Oh, please. No wonder your view of the Clintons
is so skewed.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-01 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. Period.
 Maybe if Bush spent more time assuming responsibility
 instead of blaming Clinton we wouldn't be in the
 incredible mess that we find ourselves in right now.



Indeed. The right wing freak machine spent more time on Bill Clinton's
penis than Bill Clinton ever did. They spent tens of millions of
dollars investigating it's every characteristic.



 
 --- Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Perhaps there would have been no 9/11...  And the
  disastrous Bush administration.
If when Bubba was President-
He had paid more attention to Mr.bin Laden,
And less attention to his penis.
Perhaps this is why:
The Clintons are so obsessed with returning,
To the place, 
Witch was left in such disarray...
 
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-01 Thread Roberto
 (snip)
 Oh please Robert. A good liberal and Democrat never misses an 
opportunity  to 
 blame anything on Bush or the nasty Republicans and never places any 
fault on 
  one of their own.

The thing is, it just seems to me that Bush and Clinton,
Are two sides of the same coin.
They are both manipulative, seductive, and secretive.
The both pit one group against the other.
I think they both have a similar M.O.

The thing about the sex thing, Clinton obviously had a sex-addiction 
problem, if you read his biography and the history of his addiction as 
governor and through the years.
I think the sex-addiction thing, helped the Republicans get elected in 
2000, 
And I think he got so angry about the conspiracy 9/11 talk the other 
day,
Because he had a real chance to wack bin Laden many times during his 
administration:
If he had more insight and sense of the urgency of the time.
He was distracted by the impeachment and so on.
He left a vacumn that dubya came in to fill.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bubba Screams: It Was bin Laden Stupid!'

2008-02-01 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
I think you're right, Roberto.
We got, as much as he received,
major blowjobs beyond the festive.


On 2/1/08, Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (snip)
  Oh please Robert. A good liberal and Democrat never misses an
 opportunity  to
  blame anything on Bush or the nasty Republicans and never places any
 fault on
   one of their own.

 The thing is, it just seems to me that Bush and Clinton,
 Are two sides of the same coin.
 They are both manipulative, seductive, and secretive.
 The both pit one group against the other.
 I think they both have a similar M.O.

 The thing about the sex thing, Clinton obviously had a sex-addiction
 problem, if you read his biography and the history of his addiction as
 governor and through the years.
 I think the sex-addiction thing, helped the Republicans get elected in
 2000,
 And I think he got so angry about the conspiracy 9/11 talk the other
 day,
 Because he had a real chance to wack bin Laden many times during his
 administration:
 If he had more insight and sense of the urgency of the time.
 He was distracted by the impeachment and so on.
 He left a vacumn that dubya came in to fill.