[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Where is God?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Maharishi for sure did not say, in order to reach this finest level, you may take any seemingly good vehicle coming along out of your own religious tradition. Otherwise he could have easily recommended that all Christians for reason to get best result ought to be initiated into Jesus as their ultimate mantra. Hagen I was not saying anything about Jesus being the ultimate anything. I was saying for those who wish to explore the finer levels of Jesus, Might expect to use the name/form formula, like they do in Sanskrit. We eventually find out, that everything is God. There is no differentiation. But there are different inspirations, which they use... In Sanskrit, Ganesha, Vishnu, Brahma, Rama, Saraswati, devas, angels, So many beings at the finer levels... No one is superior or inferior, It's not about that. It's about find God. For yourself. R.G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Where is God?'
I think we start to turn in circles and you slowly tergiversate. In order to achieve the finer aspects of Jesus, apart from the question, what the sense of such intention should be, using his name for such purpose would most probably not be applicable. That is what I meant with a 1 : 1 view. You conclude: If shiva leads to the absolute (apart from the question, whether he does, because the word shiva is normally not a typical mantra for transcending into silence) then Jesus must lead to higher Jesus or God or whatever. If this was so, then meditating on the word Einstein would possibly lead to the recognition of his theories or the other way round :-))). Hagen - Original Message - From: R.G. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Where is God?' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Maharishi for sure did not say, in order to reach this finest level, you may take any seemingly good vehicle coming along out of your own religious tradition. Otherwise he could have easily recommended that all Christians for reason to get best result ought to be initiated into Jesus as their ultimate mantra. Hagen I was not saying anything about Jesus being the ultimate anything. I was saying for those who wish to explore the finer levels of Jesus, Might expect to use the name/form formula, like they do in Sanskrit. We eventually find out, that everything is God. There is no differentiation. But there are different inspirations, which they use... In Sanskrit, Ganesha, Vishnu, Brahma, Rama, Saraswati, devas, angels, So many beings at the finer levels... No one is superior or inferior, It's not about that. It's about find God. For yourself. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Where is God?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we start to turn in circles and you slowly tergiversate. In order to achieve the finer aspects of Jesus, apart from the question, what the sense of such intention should be, using his name for such purpose would most probably not be applicable. That is what I meant with a 1 : 1 view. You conclude: If shiva leads to the absolute (apart from the question, whether he does, because the word shiva is normally not a typical mantra for transcending into silence) then Jesus must lead to higher Jesus or God or whatever. If this was so, then meditating on the word Einstein would possibly lead to the recognition of his theories or the other way round :-))). Hagen (snip) 'Einstein's Hebrew name, continues to be a mystery... But here is some information on Einstein's Hebrew Name. In searching for a Hebrew equivalent name, it's important to decide if you're looking for a name with a similar meaning, or a name with a similar sound. Similar Meaning: Eric apparently comes from Old Norse and means eternal ruler. Hebrew names come usually from nature words or descriptions of God. Thus there is no direct equivalent. The Hebrew word for ruler is Moshel, but is not a known first name. Eliad means eternal God, Aviad means eternal father; Elimelech or Malkiel mean God is my king. Similar Sounding: The closest in sound would be Ari or Aryeh, which means lion; Ariel is lion of God. Men named Ari or Aryeh in Israel usually have the nickname of Arik (as in Arik Einstein, the popular Israeli singer). All the best, Aiden
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHERE IS GOD?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rasa Von Werder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHERE IS GOD? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TastingSugar/ Rasa Von Werder October 23, 2005 Please answer these questions on this site or the one listed above. It is for an article I am writing and for discussion to edify many. 1 If God is in Infinity and therefore beyond us, how can we know God? Infinity is not beyond. It is immanent. 2 If God is infinite can there be such a thing as one perfect religion or best religion for everyone? Diversity is the nature of life. 3 How do you decide which religion or spiritual discipline is good, bad or not so good? By the increase of wholeness it produces in one's life. If a man be sane, he accepts life whole, as it is. 4 Should God be symbolized as Spirit/Energy, as male God, Mother God or how? What is the best symbolism to you and why? A caution. People do tend to worship their own ideas instead of experiencing the reality of God. That's how religions start. 5 Almost all religions, certainly most, espouse love. Why then has so much evil ocurred in the name of God? See answer 5 above. 6 If you are God in the yoga/Buddhist sense of the word, then should you still pray? Or just work on being God or finding the Self/God within? Should you work only on nonduality or should you work on the dual vision also? Too much work! Too much thought! More Lila. 7 Which is more important, finding your own Enlightenment, or helping others? If tending to others interferes with your meditation and God presence, should you ignore them or should you tend to them, even though they disturb your inner state? More harm is done in the name of helping others than you can shake a stick at. 8 If God is within each person (as well as all creation) why is God so difficult to find? Shouldn't this be easy? Because we make it hard. 9 What is the purpose of mystical experiences; visions, voices, dreams, revelations and such. Are they good in any way or bad? Big fish, small fish, both OK. Everything is a part of the whole. 10 If you had to spend the rest of your life on an island with people how would you like them to be? Describe the kind of people you could bear spending the rest of your life with on an island. The earth is this island. Earth's the right place for love. I don't know where it's likely to go better. 11 When you see God face to face how will God look? When you die and go to Heaven, what will you see? Explain what you think you will see. I will see what my level of consciousness allows me to see. As in this life, I hope that is clear and true. Thank you for answering. Please if you will discuss this here or on the group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TastingSugar/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
