[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
  The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread
  boring and ended!
 
 Either that or it should be retitled,
 How three people with out of control egos
 hijacked a spiritual group and brought it
 down to the level of infantile egobabble.

I think there is a lesson to be learned from
the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL
this weekend.

A few people, with different political leanings
but with one thing in common, managed to side-
track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup
and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon-
stration of, It's all about US...*WE* are what's 
important here!

The one thing that these three posters have in
common?  All three have a history of being a little 
light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
spiritual experience, and all three have a history of 
reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
*have* had such experiences choose to report them.

One might suggest that the people who have no exper-
iences with higher states of consciousness of their
own to talk about, and who have a history of being
agressive and skeptical when others talk about them,
might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of
Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and 
*TOWARDS* discussions that focus on I am right, you
are wrong, I have no hidden agenda but you have one,
and I'm smart and you're not. In other words, the 
mundane level at which *they* live and operate.

Voila.  A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets
talked about is mundane, everyday political bull-
shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment
any more.

Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization
of Fairfield Life.  

:-)  :-)  :-)









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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread sparaig
Translation: Barry is jealous that Judy got all the publicity so now 
he wants to cash in on it by piggybacking a guest editorial.


-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  
   The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread
   boring and ended!
  
  Either that or it should be retitled,
  How three people with out of control egos
  hijacked a spiritual group and brought it
  down to the level of infantile egobabble.
 
 I think there is a lesson to be learned from
 the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL
 this weekend.
 
 A few people, with different political leanings
 but with one thing in common, managed to side-
 track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup
 and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon-
 stration of, It's all about US...*WE* are what's 
 important here!
 
 The one thing that these three posters have in
 common?  All three have a history of being a little 
 light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
 spiritual experience, and all three have a history of 
 reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
 *have* had such experiences choose to report them.
 
 One might suggest that the people who have no exper-
 iences with higher states of consciousness of their
 own to talk about, and who have a history of being
 agressive and skeptical when others talk about them,
 might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of
 Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and 
 *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on I am right, you
 are wrong, I have no hidden agenda but you have one,
 and I'm smart and you're not. In other words, the 
 mundane level at which *they* live and operate.
 
 Voila.  A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets
 talked about is mundane, everyday political bull-
 shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment
 any more.
 
 Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization
 of Fairfield Life.  
 
 :-)  :-)  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  
   The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread
   boring and ended!
  
  Either that or it should be retitled,
  How three people with out of control egos
  hijacked a spiritual group and brought it
  down to the level of infantile egobabble.
 
 I think there is a lesson to be learned from
 the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL
 this weekend.
 
 A few people, with different political leanings
 but with one thing in common, managed to side-
 track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup
 and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon-
 stration of, It's all about US...*WE* are what's 
 important here!
 
 The one thing that these three posters have in
 common?  All three have a history of being a little 
 light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
 spiritual experience, and all three have a history of 
 reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
 *have* had such experiences choose to report them.
 
 One might suggest that the people who have no exper-
 iences with higher states of consciousness of their
 own to talk about, and who have a history of being
 agressive and skeptical when others talk about them,
 might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of
 Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and 
 *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on I am right, you
 are wrong, I have no hidden agenda but you have one,
 and I'm smart and you're not. In other words, the 
 mundane level at which *they* live and operate.
 
 Voila.  A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets
 talked about is mundane, everyday political bull-
 shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment
 any more.
 
 Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization
 of Fairfield Life.  
 
 :-)  :-)  :-)


Man, you're in for it now :) 
(The diplomatic response might have been, Yes Dear LOL, best
chuckle of the day) 


JohnY 

PS. 'orgy of flatulence'... catchy






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Translation: Barry is jealous that Judy got all the publicity
 so now he wants to cash in on it by piggybacking a guest 
 editorial.

Got all the publicity?

I was partly joking about the attempt to hijack FFL
and turn it into the cesspool that you guys turned
a.m.t. into, but I guess maybe I was onto something.
Do you *really* think in terms of getting all the 
publicity when posting here?  Is *that* why you
post so much?

Sad, if so.

I was away all weekend, and returned to find Fairfield
Life having been turned into an intellectual sewer.  I
was merely commenting on who managed to do that, and
what their inner motives might have been *for* doing it.

I didn't notice that this weekend you were one of the 
three people I was speaking about who managed to make
the entire newsgroup all about them and their insecurities. 
But judging by the defensive way you jumped right in here
and couldn't wait to attack me, maybe you wish you had been.  


 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
  wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
   
The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread
boring and ended!
   
   Either that or it should be retitled,
   How three people with out of control egos
   hijacked a spiritual group and brought it
   down to the level of infantile egobabble.
  
  I think there is a lesson to be learned from
  the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL
  this weekend.
  
  A few people, with different political leanings
  but with one thing in common, managed to side-
  track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup
  and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon-
  stration of, It's all about US...*WE* are what's 
  important here!
  
  The one thing that these three posters have in
  common?  All three have a history of being a little 
  light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
  spiritual experience, and all three have a history of 
  reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
  *have* had such experiences choose to report them.
  
  One might suggest that the people who have no exper-
  iences with higher states of consciousness of their
  own to talk about, and who have a history of being
  agressive and skeptical when others talk about them,
  might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of
  Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and 
  *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on I am right, you
  are wrong, I have no hidden agenda but you have one,
  and I'm smart and you're not. In other words, the 
  mundane level at which *they* live and operate.
  
  Voila.  A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets
  talked about is mundane, everyday political bull-
  shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment
  any more.
  
  Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization
  of Fairfield Life.  
  
  :-)  :-)  :-)
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  Translation: Barry is jealous that Judy got all the publicity
  so now he wants to cash in on it by piggybacking a guest 
  editorial.
 
 Got all the publicity?
 
 I was partly joking about the attempt to hijack FFL
 and turn it into the cesspool that you guys turned
 a.m.t. into, but I guess maybe I was onto something.
 Do you *really* think in terms of getting all the 
 publicity when posting here?  Is *that* why you
 post so much?

Are you suggesting that I am one of the three who posted the most in 
this most recent thread?

 
 Sad, if so.
 
 I was away all weekend, and returned to find Fairfield
 Life having been turned into an intellectual sewer.  I
 was merely commenting on who managed to do that, and
 what their inner motives might have been *for* doing it.
 
 I didn't notice that this weekend you were one of the 
 three people I was speaking about who managed to make
 the entire newsgroup all about them and their insecurities. 
 But judging by the defensive way you jumped right in here
 and couldn't wait to attack me, maybe you wish you had been.  
 
 

I guess I was one of the four, or something. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Translation: Barry is jealous that Judy got all the publicity so
 now he wants to cash in on it by piggybacking a guest editorial.

If you look back on FFL and on alt.m.t, you'll find
that Barry is almost always driven to write a guest
editorial concerning threads I've been heavily
involved in.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  
   The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread
   boring and ended!
  
  Either that or it should be retitled,
  How three people with out of control egos
  hijacked a spiritual group and brought it
  down to the level of infantile egobabble.
 
 I think there is a lesson to be learned from
 the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL
 this weekend.
 
 A few people, with different political leanings
 but with one thing in common, managed to side-
 track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup
 and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon-
 stration of, It's all about US...*WE* are what's 
 important here!

Or, it was a topic all three of us were deeply
interested in.

 The one thing that these three posters have in
 common?  All three have a history of being a little 
 light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
 spiritual experience

Interesting that Barry claims to know our
history of personal, subjective spiritual
experience.

, and all three have a history of 
 reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
 *have* had such experiences choose to report them.

In fact, only one of us has done so (the
person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff).

Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about
Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz
levitate that Barry didn't appreciate.

 One might suggest that the people who have no exper-
 iences with higher states of consciousness of their
 own to talk about, and who have a history of being
 agressive and skeptical when others talk about them,
 might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of
 Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and 
 *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on I am right, you
 are wrong, I have no hidden agenda but you have one,
 and I'm smart and you're not. In other words, the 
 mundane level at which *they* live and operate.

One might suggest this, but if one suggested it
about the thread in question, thread, one would
be quite wrong.

But being wrong has never stopped Barry from making
suggestions yet.


 
 Voila.  A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets
 talked about is mundane, everyday political bull-
 shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment
 any more.
 
 Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization
 of Fairfield Life.  
 
 :-)  :-)  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  
   The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread
   boring and ended!
  
  Either that or it should be retitled,
  How three people with out of control egos
  hijacked a spiritual group and brought it
  down to the level of infantile egobabble.
 
 I think there is a lesson to be learned from
 the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL
 this weekend.
 
 A few people, with different political leanings
 but with one thing in common, managed to side-
 track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup
 and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon-
 stration of, It's all about US...*WE* are what's 
 important here!
 
 The one thing that these three posters have in
 common?  All three have a history of being a little 
 light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
 spiritual experience, and all three have a history of 
 reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
 *have* had such experiences choose to report them.
 
 One might suggest that the people who have no exper-
 iences with higher states of consciousness of their
 own to talk about, and who have a history of being
 agressive and skeptical when others talk about them,
 might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of
 Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and 
 *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on I am right, you
 are wrong, I have no hidden agenda but you have one,
 and I'm smart and you're not. In other words, the 
 mundane level at which *they* live and operate.
 
 Voila.  A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets
 talked about is mundane, everyday political bull-
 shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment
 any more.
 
 Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization
 of Fairfield Life.  
 
 :-)  :-)  :-)




This coming from the person who has spent, literally, every day of 
the last 10 years of his life in childish, meaningless, hour-upon-
hour debate with Judy Stein.












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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread anony_sleuth_ff
Oh my. The bizzare little dream worlds people weave for themselves. A
coping mechanism I suppose. Posts like are wonderful tools for
culturing compassion -- by building recognizing and remembering how
challenged and deluded some people are.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  
   The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread
   boring and ended!
  
  Either that or it should be retitled,
  How three people with out of control egos
  hijacked a spiritual group and brought it
  down to the level of infantile egobabble.
 
 I think there is a lesson to be learned from
 the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL
 this weekend.
 
 A few people, with different political leanings
 but with one thing in common, managed to side-
 track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup
 and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon-
 stration of, It's all about US...*WE* are what's 
 important here!
 
 The one thing that these three posters have in
 common?  All three have a history of being a little 
 light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
 spiritual experience, and all three have a history of 
 reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
 *have* had such experiences choose to report them.
 
 One might suggest that the people who have no exper-
 iences with higher states of consciousness of their
 own to talk about, and who have a history of being
 agressive and skeptical when others talk about them,
 might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of
 Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and 
 *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on I am right, you
 are wrong, I have no hidden agenda but you have one,
 and I'm smart and you're not. In other words, the 
 mundane level at which *they* live and operate.
 
 Voila.  A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets
 talked about is mundane, everyday political bull-
 shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment
 any more.
 
 Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization
 of Fairfield Life.  
 
 :-)  :-)  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
  wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
   
The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread
boring and ended!
   
   Either that or it should be retitled,
   How three people with out of control egos
   hijacked a spiritual group and brought it
   down to the level of infantile egobabble.
  
  I think there is a lesson to be learned from
  the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL
  this weekend.
  
  A few people, with different political leanings
  but with one thing in common, managed to side-
  track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup
  and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon-
  stration of, It's all about US...*WE* are what's 
  important here!
 
 Or, it was a topic all three of us were deeply
 interested in.
 
  The one thing that these three posters have in
  common?  All three have a history of being a little 
  light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
  spiritual experience
 
 Interesting that Barry claims to know our
 history of personal, subjective spiritual
 experience.
 
 , and all three have a history of 
  reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
  *have* had such experiences choose to report them.
 
 In fact, only one of us has done so (the
 person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff).
 
 Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about
 Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz
 levitate that Barry didn't appreciate.




That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that Barry 
responded to my request that he actually tell us which other 
spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that 
were effortless.





 
  One might suggest that the people who have no exper-
  iences with higher states of consciousness of their
  own to talk about, and who have a history of being
  agressive and skeptical when others talk about them,
  might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of
  Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and 
  *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on I am right, you
  are wrong, I have no hidden agenda but you have one,
  and I'm smart and you're not. In other words, the 
  mundane level at which *they* live and operate.
 
 One might suggest this, but if one suggested it
 about the thread in question, thread, one would
 be quite wrong.
 
 But being wrong has never stopped Barry from making
 suggestions yet.
 
 
  
  Voila.  A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets
  talked about is mundane, everyday political bull-
  shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment
  any more.
  
  Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization
  of Fairfield Life.  
  
  :-)  :-)  :-)
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
snip
   The one thing that these three posters have in
   common?  All three have a history of being a little 
   light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
   spiritual experience
  
  Interesting that Barry claims to know our
  history of personal, subjective spiritual
  experience.
  
  , and all three have a history of 
   reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
   *have* had such experiences choose to report them.
  
  In fact, only one of us has done so (the
  person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff).
  
  Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about
  Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz
  levitate that Barry didn't appreciate.
 
 That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that Barry 
 responded to my request that he actually tell us which other 
 spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that 
 were effortless.

There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than
claiming those who criticize you do so because they
haven't had as much personal, subjective spiritual
experience as you have.

It certainly makes the point that having spiritual
experiences does not a spiritual person make, though.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
 snip
The one thing that these three posters have in
common?  All three have a history of being a little 
light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
spiritual experience
   
   Interesting that Barry claims to know our
   history of personal, subjective spiritual
   experience.
   
   , and all three have a history of 
reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
*have* had such experiences choose to report them.
   
   In fact, only one of us has done so (the
   person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff).
   
   Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about
   Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz
   levitate that Barry didn't appreciate.
  
  That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that Barry 
  responded to my request that he actually tell us which other 
  spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that 
  were effortless.
 
 There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than
 claiming those who criticize you do so because they
 haven't had as much personal, subjective spiritual
 experience as you have.

I was merely citing your *own* words, back on
a.m.t. when you were a little more honest, and
stated freely (many times) that you had never had 
any experience of enlightenment/witnessing in activity
that had lasted more than a couple of minutes after
program (as opposed to, say, several days, weeks,
months or years, as reported by other posters there). 

Then for some reason you stopped admitting your lack
of such experiences publicly, and started hinting that 
what you'd said before wasn't the whole story. Whatever.  :-)

Here's your opportunity to set the record straight:
Have you ever had an experience of 24/7 witnessing
(the experience you yourself tend to associate with
CC) that has lasted longer than a couple of minutes?
For example, have you ever had such an experience 
that has ever lasted an hour?  A day?  Several days?
A week?  Two weeks?  A month?  A year?

If you don't answer, you can hardly base us for assuming
that your experience is limited to what you used to talk
about before you stopped talking about such things.  :-)

 It certainly makes the point that having spiritual
 experiences does not a spiritual person make, though.

Yeah, we know that's your position.  Interesting
position for someone who's never *had* those 
experiences to take, eh?  :-)  :-)  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
   wrote:
  snip
 The one thing that these three posters have in
 common?  All three have a history of being a little 
 light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
 spiritual experience

Interesting that Barry claims to know our
history of personal, subjective spiritual
experience.

, and all three have a history of 
 reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
 *have* had such experiences choose to report them.

In fact, only one of us has done so (the
person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff).

Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about
Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz
levitate that Barry didn't appreciate.
   
   That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that 
Barry 
   responded to my request that he actually tell us which other 
   spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that 
   were effortless.
  
  There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than
  claiming those who criticize you do so because they
  haven't had as much personal, subjective spiritual
  experience as you have.
 
 I was merely citing your *own* words, back on
 a.m.t. when you were a little more honest, and
 stated freely (many times) that you had never had 
 any experience of enlightenment/witnessing in activity
 that had lasted more than a couple of minutes after
 program (as opposed to, say, several days, weeks,
 months or years, as reported by other posters there). 
 
 Then for some reason you stopped admitting your lack
 of such experiences publicly, and started hinting that 
 what you'd said before wasn't the whole story. Whatever.  :-)
 
 Here's your opportunity to set the record straight:




...and hereafter Barry becomes the New Age's Joe McCarthy...





 Have you ever had an experience of 24/7 witnessing
 (the experience you yourself tend to associate with
 CC) that has lasted longer than a couple of minutes?
 For example, have you ever had such an experience 
 that has ever lasted an hour?  A day?  Several days?
 A week?  Two weeks?  A month?  A year?
 
 If you don't answer, you can hardly base us for assuming
 that your experience is limited to what you used to talk
 about before you stopped talking about such things.  :-)
 
  It certainly makes the point that having spiritual
  experiences does not a spiritual person make, though.
 
 Yeah, we know that's your position.  Interesting
 position for someone who's never *had* those 
 experiences to take, eh?  :-)  :-)  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
   snip
  The one thing that these three posters have in
  common?  All three have a history of being a little 
  light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
  spiritual experience
 
 Interesting that Barry claims to know our
 history of personal, subjective spiritual
 experience.
 
 , and all three have a history of 
  reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
  *have* had such experiences choose to report them.
 
 In fact, only one of us has done so (the
 person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff).
 
 Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about
 Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz
 levitate that Barry didn't appreciate.

That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that 
 Barry 
responded to my request that he actually tell us which other 
spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that 
were effortless.
   
   There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than
   claiming those who criticize you do so because they
   haven't had as much personal, subjective spiritual
   experience as you have.
  
  I was merely citing your *own* words, back on
  a.m.t. when you were a little more honest, and
  stated freely (many times) that you had never had 
  any experience of enlightenment/witnessing in activity
  that had lasted more than a couple of minutes after
  program (as opposed to, say, several days, weeks,
  months or years, as reported by other posters there). 
  
  Then for some reason you stopped admitting your lack
  of such experiences publicly, and started hinting that 
  what you'd said before wasn't the whole story. Whatever.  :-)
  
  Here's your opportunity to set the record straight:
 
 ...and hereafter Barry becomes the New Age's Joe McCarthy...
 
snip
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
snip
  There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than
  claiming those who criticize you do so because they
  haven't had as much personal, subjective spiritual
  experience as you have.
 
 I was merely citing your *own* words, back on
 a.m.t. when you were a little more honest, and
 stated freely (many times) that you had never had 
 any experience of enlightenment/witnessing in activity
 that had lasted more than a couple of minutes after
 program (as opposed to, say, several days, weeks,
 months or years, as reported by other posters there). 
 
 Then for some reason you stopped admitting your lack
 of such experiences publicly, and started hinting that 
 what you'd said before wasn't the whole story. Whatever.  :-)

In the first place, using a lack of personal experience
to attack someone because they've criticized you is
inherently low-vibe.  As I said, it doesn't get much
lower.

So it's not any the less low-vibe to use what someone
has said about their personal experience to one
audience for the purpose of attacking that person
before a different audience.

In the third place, it's downright moronic to assume
that a person's spiritual experience is *static*--
that what they've reported at one point is never
going to change.

 Here's your opportunity to set the record straight:

No, I don't discuss my spiritual experience on demand,
as I've told you many times before.  I'll talk about
it when and if I feel like talking about it; I don't feel 
the need, as you obviously do, to boast about it or
play dueling experiences in an attempt to put somebody
down.

 Have you ever had an experience of 24/7 witnessing
 (the experience you yourself tend to associate with
 CC) that has lasted longer than a couple of minutes?
 For example, have you ever had such an experience 
 that has ever lasted an hour?  A day?  Several days?
 A week?  Two weeks?  A month?  A year?
 
 If you don't answer, you can hardly base us for assuming
 that your experience is limited to what you used to talk
 about before you stopped talking about such things.  :-)

Well, yes, one can certainly base (I think you meant
blame) you for making that assumption.  It makes no
sense, for one thing, as noted.  Also as noted, your
tendency both to make boastful claims about your own
spiritual experience and to use it as a weapon against
your critics when they decline to do the same reveals
that, as I said:

  It certainly makes the point that having spiritual
  experiences does not a spiritual person make, though.
 
 Yeah, we know that's your position.  Interesting
 position for someone who's never *had* those 
 experiences to take, eh?  :-)  :-)  :-)

It would be for someone who's never had spiritual
experiences, yes indeed.  Were you perhaps assuming
that *only* those who had never had spiritual
experiences would take that position?

Now, would you like to attempt to justify your other
major misstatement as well?  To wit:

and all three have a history of
reacting badly and agressively when people here who
*have* had such experiences choose to report them.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-02 Thread MDixon6569





The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-02 Thread Bhairitu
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The Raja of Compton California  now declares this thread  boring and ended!

  

Now that might raise suspicions that he was complicit in 911.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-02 Thread TurquoiseB
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 The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread
 boring and ended!

Either that or it should be retitled,
How three people with out of control egos
hijacked a spiritual group and brought it
down to the level of infantile egobabble.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts apparently suspicious con...

2006-04-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
  The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread
  boring and ended!
 
 Either that or it should be retitled,
 How three people with out of control egos
 hijacked a spiritual group and brought it
 down to the level of infantile egobabble.

But I didn't see any posts from you in this thread,
Barry.






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