[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
Group meditation for all meditators who are without current Dome badges to practice silent meditation together, continues on weekdays, 5pm at 51 N. Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Compatible in silent practice? Surely a lot of silent meditations can be respectfully practiced together in peace. :Yogananda silent meditation, Chopra meditation, Oprah’s , Oneness, Sahaja, Mindfulness, Zen, Centering Prayer, others, even ™. This particular 5pm group meditation in Fairfield, iowa happens to be a facilitated silent time for people to silently practice their meditation in a group with others. -JaiGuruYou rajawilliamsmith writes: TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Actually it seems you would like our Fairfield Quaker Meeting of meditators. Quaker Meetings can vary by character of the people in the meeting. Our Fairfield Quaker Meeting is a silent meeting. A vocal satsang that often does go on mostly happens afterwards and it can be quite informing, spiritual and inspired in the words of it. During the meeting itself the old adage regarding speaking out during meeting is that it is okay to an extent that it may add to the silence of the meeting. Some number of years ago someone attended here who had come from meetings in San Francisco. In larger times of conflict Quaker Meetings can experience an influx of people new to the Society of Friends coming because of the social activism that Friends have been known for. Like, for the Friends peace and anti-war testimony. This occurred during the Gulf wars and before during the Vietnam war. This meditator who attended SF meetings before would come to our silent Fairfield meeting and proceed to use it as a forum to soapbox, coming in attendance with prepared notes to speak from. This earnest attender was dealt with kindly by an old Hicksite Quaker who came to meditating in Fairfield from an old East coast Quaker meeting. More to come on cultivating compassion, spirituality, and social-justice activism.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What?? People speak "the Word of God" during silent Quaker meetings? That's news to me (and a good reason for why I wouldn't get involved in that). I'm suspicious of anybody claiming to know the "Word of God" In any event, thx for the nice intro into various facets of Compassion - a difficult topic to get a handle on due its vastness and starkly different approaches. But the way things are shaping up especially including the scientific evidence, .. ... Old model of reality: 1. Meditate and "take it as it comes" 2. No deliberate attempt to incorporate mood making, but if moods spontaneously arise, follow (1) and the usual TM instructions. 3. No particular attention need given to Compassion, since the practice itself will result in many benefits that include that, along with overall happiness and better health. New Model of reality. 1. Complementary benefits of meditation along with Compassion. This can involve TM or other forms of meditation, and 2. Deliberate attempt to cultivate Compassion, with mood making playing a role initially at least. After a degree of Compassion sets in, it tends to have a self-expanding quality radiating as a subtle form of Shakti into the environment and to all people. 3. There need not be a particular appearance of Compassion (such as giving $ and food to the poor, helping to rebuild the devastated homes of those in need, doing volunteer work and disaster relief. 4. The reason for the "there need not"...in (3) may be explained by the powerful amount of Shakti radiated by some Gurus such as Ammachi. This Shakti may manifest in countless ways for the benefit of humanity. The mechanisms behind such radiation may be too subtle for ordinary perception. Thus, Gurus like Guru Dev, Aurobindo, Ramakrishna, and Ramana Maharshi on a superficial level may not seem Compassionate, but on a more subtle level their influence could have global implications of vast importance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FW: A WEEKEND no-badge group meditation, Hi Friends We will gather for group silent meditation on Sunday December 4th at 10:30am at the Hamfam hous
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
You are welcome to sit for all or any part of the hour in silence. Simply quietly enter, meditate and leave accordingly. In the interest of providing time and space for an unaffiliated, silent, group meditation, a Fairfield society of meditating Friends is facilitating a time and the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit furnishes a space for a weekday silent meditation from 5 to 6pm Monday through Friday. wleed3 writes: THANKS 4 this post next time in town will avail my self of such THANKS ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Group meditation for all meditators who are without current Dome badges to practice silent meditation together, continues on weekdays, 5pm at 51 N. Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Compatible in silent practice? Surely a lot of silent meditations can be respectfully practiced together in peace. :Yogananda silent meditation, Chopra meditation, Oprah’s , Oneness, Sahaja, Mindfulness, Zen, Centering Prayer, others, even ™. This particular 5pm group meditation in Fairfield, iowa happens to be a facilitated silent time for people to silently practice their meditation in a group with others. -JaiGuruYou rajawilliamsmith writes: TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Actually it seems you would like our Fairfield Quaker Meeting of meditators. Quaker Meetings can vary by character of the people in the meeting. Our Fairfield Quaker Meeting is a silent meeting. A vocal satsang that often does go on mostly happens afterwards and it can be quite informing, spiritual and inspired in the words of it. During the meeting itself the old adage regarding speaking out during meeting is that it is okay to an extent that speaking may add to the silence of the meeting. Some number of years ago someone attended here who had come from meetings in San Francisco. In larger times of conflict Quaker Meetings can experience an influx of people new to the Society of Friends coming because of the social activism that Friends have been known for. Like, for the Friends peace and anti-war testimony. This occurred during the Gulf wars and before during the Vietnam war. This meditator who attended SF meetings before would come to our silent Fairfield meeting and proceed to use it as a forum to soapbox, coming in attendance with prepared notes to speak from. This earnest attender was dealt with kindly by an old Hicksite Quaker who came to meditating in Fairfield from an old East coast Quaker meeting. More to come on cultivating compassion, spirituality, and social-justice activism.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What?? People speak "the Word of God" during silent Quaker meetings? That's news to me (and a good reason for why I wouldn't get involved in that). I'm suspicious of anybody claiming to know the "Word of God" In any event, thx for the nice intro into various facets of Compassion - a difficult topic to get a handle on due its vastness and starkly different approaches. But the way things are shaping up especially including the scientific evidence, .. ... Old model of reality: 1. Meditate and "take it as it comes" 2. No deliberate attempt to incorporate mood making, but if moods spontaneously arise, follow (1) and the usual TM instructions. 3. No particular attention need given to Compassion, since the practice itself will result in many benefits that include that, along with overall happiness and better health. New Model of reality. 1. Complementary benefits of meditation along with Compassion. This can involve TM or other forms of meditation, and 2. Deliberate attempt to cultivate Compassion, with mood making playing a role initially at least. After a degree of Compassion sets in, it tends to have a self-expanding quality radiating as a subtle form of Shakti into the environment and to all people. 3. There need not be a particular appearance of Compassion (such as giving $ and food to the poor, helping to rebuild the devastated homes of those in need, doing volunteer work and disaster relief. 4. The reason for the "there need not"...in (3) may be explained by the powerful amount of Shakti radiated by some Gurus such as Ammachi. This Shakti
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
FW: This "unaffiliated" group meditation at the church downtown on the Fairfield Square advertised in the Weekly Reader is not really wise. It sends the wrong message. Sure, the Quakers had something cool going on, but was it pure consciousness? Was it truly Vedic science? Did it reflect true indigenous culture? Maybe, maybe not. But we *do* have someone who *did* reflect the deepest principles, and who did maintain an authentic,indigenous tradition, and, moreover, provided a way for the average human to experience these profound principles: Maharishi. Again, we don't want to mess with it. The deepest thinkers and philosophers of history struggled with this, and here Maharishi gave it to us in a neat, ready-to-use package: Transcendental Meditation. This knowledge is far too important, and too delicate. History has taught us, particularly in India, how far off-base people can get in their misinterpretation of this experience, an experience that is critical to the health of humanity. - Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You are welcome to sit for all or any part of the hour in silence. Simply quietly enter, meditate and leave accordingly. In the interest of providing time and space for an unaffiliated, silent, group meditation, a Fairfield society of meditating Friends is facilitating a time and the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit furnishes a space for a weekday silent meditation from 5 to 6pm Monday through Friday. wleed3 writes: THANKS 4 this post next time in town will avail my self of such THANKS ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Group meditation for all meditators who are without current Dome badges to practice silent meditation together, continues on weekdays, 5pm at 51 N. Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Compatible in silent practice? Surely a lot of silent meditations can be respectfully practiced together in peace. :Yogananda silent meditation, Chopra meditation, Oprah’s , Oneness, Sahaja, Mindfulness, Zen, Centering Prayer, others, even ™. This particular 5pm group meditation in Fairfield, iowa happens to be a facilitated silent time for people to silently practice their meditation in a group with others. -JaiGuruYou rajawilliamsmith writes: TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Actually it seems you would like our Fairfield Quaker Meeting of meditators. Quaker Meetings can vary by character of the people in the meeting. Our Fairfield Quaker Meeting is a silent meeting. A vocal satsang that often does go on mostly happens afterwards and it can be quite informing, spiritual and inspired in the words of it. During the meeting itself the old adage regarding speaking out during meeting is that it is okay to an extent that speaking may add to the silence of the meeting. Some number of years ago someone attended here who had come from meetings in San Francisco. In larger times of conflict Quaker Meetings can experience an influx of people new to the Society of Friends coming because of the social activism that Friends have been known for. Like, for the Friends peace and anti-war testimony. This occurred during the Gulf wars and before during the Vietnam war. This meditator who attended SF meetings before would come to our silent Fairfield meeting and proceed to use it as a forum to soapbox, coming in attendance with prepared notes to speak from. This earnest attender was dealt with kindly by an old Hicksite Quaker who came to meditating in Fairfield from an old East coast Quaker meeting. More to come on cultivating compassion, spirituality, and social-justice activism.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What?? People speak "the Word of God" during silent Quaker meetings? That's news to me (and a good reason for why I wouldn't get involved in that). I'm suspicious of anybody claiming to know the "Word of God" In any event, thx for the nice intro into various facets of Compassion - a difficult topic to get a handle on due its vastness and starkly different approaches. B
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
This "unaffiliated" group meditation...is not really wise. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FW: This "unaffiliated" group meditation at the church downtown on the Fairfield Square advertised in the Weekly Reader is not really wise. It sends the wrong message. Sure, the Quakers had something cool going on, but was it pure consciousness? Was it truly Vedic science? Did it reflect true indigenous culture? Maybe, maybe not. But we *do* have someone who *did* reflect the deepest principles, and who did maintain an authentic,indigenous tradition, and, moreover, provided a way for the average human to experience these profound principles: Maharishi. Again, we don't want to mess with it. The deepest thinkers and philosophers of history struggled with this, and here Maharishi gave it to us in a neat, ready-to-use package: Transcendental Meditation. This knowledge is far too important, and too delicate. History has taught us, particularly in India, how far off-base people can get in their misinterpretation of this experience, an experience that is critical to the health of humanity. - Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You are welcome to sit for all or any part of the hour in silence. Simply quietly enter, meditate and leave accordingly. In the interest of providing time and space for an unaffiliated, silent, group meditation, a Fairfield society of meditating Friends is facilitating a time and the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit furnishes a space for a weekday silent meditation from 5 to 6pm Monday through Friday. wleed3 writes: THANKS 4 this post next time in town will avail my self of such THANKS ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Group meditation for all meditators who are without current Dome badges to practice silent meditation together, continues on weekdays, 5pm at 51 N. Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Compatible in silent practice? Surely a lot of silent meditations can be respectfully practiced together in peace. :Yogananda silent meditation, Chopra meditation, Oprah’s , Oneness, Sahaja, Mindfulness, Zen, Centering Prayer, others, even ™. This particular 5pm group meditation in Fairfield, iowa happens to be a facilitated silent time for people to silently practice their meditation in a group with others. -JaiGuruYou rajawilliamsmith writes: TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Actually it seems you would like our Fairfield Quaker Meeting of meditators. Quaker Meetings can vary by character of the people in the meeting. Our Fairfield Quaker Meeting is a silent meeting. A vocal satsang that often does go on mostly happens afterwards and it can be quite informing, spiritual and inspired in the words of it. During the meeting itself the old adage regarding speaking out during meeting is that it is okay to an extent that speaking may add to the silence of the meeting. Some number of years ago someone attended here who had come from meetings in San Francisco. In larger times of conflict Quaker Meetings can experience an influx of people new to the Society of Friends coming because of the social activism that Friends have been known for. Like, for the Friends peace and anti-war testimony. This occurred during the Gulf wars and before during the Vietnam war. This meditator who attended SF meetings before would come to our silent Fairfield meeting and proceed to use it as a forum to soapbox, coming in attendance with prepared notes to speak from. This earnest attender was dealt with kindly by an old Hicksite Quaker who came to meditating in Fairfield from an old East coast Quaker meeting. More to come on cultivating compassion, spirituality, and social-justice activism.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What?? People speak "the Word of God" during silent Quaker meetings? That's news to me (and a good reason for why I wouldn't get involved in that). I'm suspicious of anybody claiming to know the "Word of God" In any event, thx for the nice intro into various facet
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
FW: The IA assembly is an expression of group coherence based on Maharishi's programs to develop consciousness. Development of consciousness is such a delicate area, and this knowledge has been so corrupted and misinterpreted over the centuries, that it behooves us to follow Maharishi's instructions very carefully, else risk the knowledge being lost again. Not to mention, hurting ourselves in not receiving the full benefit of the program. The world today is pretty messed up. As far as I can see, we haven't yet exited from kaliyuga. Global society, and government in particular, still have a lot of room for improvement. The key to everything rests in restoring the experience of our true nature as human beings: pure, unbounded awareness. I certainly don't feel qualified to undertake such a massive responsibility. But Maharishi did, and what he accomplished over 50 years was phenomenal. We can't mess with what he set up. It's too delicate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : We should close the downtown Fairfield, Iowa 5pm meditation? People might not be doing ™? Close it as a facilitated quiet time non-exclusive meditation on grounds it is possibly facilitating non-™ meditation? That ™ meditators could be sitting meditating along with other meditators? This "unaffiliated" group meditation...is not really wise. FW: This "unaffiliated" group meditation at the church downtown on the Fairfield Square advertised in the Weekly Reader is not really wise. It sends the wrong message. Sure, the Quakers had something cool going on, but was it pure consciousness? Was it truly Vedic science? Did it reflect true indigenous culture? Maybe, maybe not. But we *do* have someone who *did* reflect the deepest principles, and who did maintain an authentic,indigenous tradition, and, moreover, provided a way for the average human to experience these profound principles: Maharishi. Again, we don't want to mess with it. The deepest thinkers and philosophers of history struggled with this, and here Maharishi gave it to us in a neat, ready-to-use package: Transcendental Meditation. This knowledge is far too important, and too delicate. History has taught us, particularly in India, how far off-base people can get in their misinterpretation of this experience, an experience that is critical to the health of humanity. - Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You are welcome to sit for all or any part of the hour in silence. Simply quietly enter, meditate and leave accordingly. In the interest of providing time and space for an unaffiliated, silent, group meditation, a Fairfield society of meditating Friends is facilitating a time and the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit furnishes a space for a weekday silent meditation from 5 to 6pm Monday through Friday. weekdays, 5pm at 51 N. Court in Fairfield, Iowa wleed3 writes: THANKS 4 this post next time in town will avail my self of such THANKS ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Group meditation for all meditators who are without current Dome badges to practice silent meditation together, continues on weekdays, 5pm at 51 N. Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Compatible in silent practice? Surely a lot of silent meditations can be respectfully practiced together in peace. :Yogananda silent meditation, Chopra meditation, Oprah’s , Oneness, Sahaja, Mindfulness, Zen, Centering Prayer, others, even ™. This particular 5pm group meditation in Fairfield, iowa happens to be a facilitated silent time for people to silently practice their meditation in a group with others. -JaiGuruYou rajawilliamsmith writes: TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Actually it seems you would like our Fairfield Quaker Meeting of meditators. Quaker Meetings can vary by character of the people in the meeting. Our Fairfield Quaker Meeting is a silent meeting. A vocal satsang that often does go on mostly happens afterwards and it can be quite informing, spiritual and inspired in the words of it. During the me
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
As a service project starting today, the FF meditating Quakers will be staffing this weekday 5pm open group meditation downtown for this month leading up to Election Day. A group meditation even for no-badge-nik meditators.. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation This is an open unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. At 51 North Court Street, Fairfield, Iowa For Weekdays 5pm unto Election Day. In the Quaker method of practicing meditation, as Quakers we have no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this collective practice only as to where speaking out improves upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice. Ours is a quiet practice, you are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us and practice your meditation method as your practice is not disruptive of our own silent practice. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation is a service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On the 40th Day to the Election.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This Weds. A silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown at the Fairfield Square, front door facing the Fairfield, Iowa town square.. 51 N. Court. Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. This is an unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. Meeting As Simple Practicing Meditators we have, no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this meeting for collective meditation only as to where speaking out may improve upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice, You are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us. A service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers), # # ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. Weds. Silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown Fairfield Square, front door, 51 N. Court. Fairfield, Iowa
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
A place even for meditators who are without badges for the Domes. The Fairfield No-Badge-Nik Group Meditation, weekdays, 5pm at 51 North Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As a service project, the FF meditating Quakers will be staffing this weekday 5pm open group meditation downtown for this month leading up to Election Day. A group meditation even for no-badge-nik meditators.. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation This is an open unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. At 51 North Court Street, Fairfield, Iowa For Weekdays 5pm unto Election Day. In the Quaker method of practicing meditation, as Quakers we have no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this collective practice only as to where speaking out improves upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice. Ours is a quiet practice, you are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us and practice your meditation method as your practice is not disruptive of our own silent practice. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation is a service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On the 40th Day to the Election.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This Weds. A silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown at the Fairfield Square, front door facing the Fairfield, Iowa town square.. 51 N. Court. Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. This is an unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. Meeting As Simple Practicing Meditators we have, no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this meeting for collective meditation only as to where speaking out may improve upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice, You are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us. A service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers), # # ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. Weds. Silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown Fairfield Square, front door, 51 N. Court. Fairfield, Iowa
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
Compared to TM is not a old practice at all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
Compatible in silent practice? Surely a lot of silent meditations can be respectfully practiced together in peace. Yogananda silent meditation, Chopra meditation, Oprah’s , Oneness, Sahaja, Mindfulness, Zen, Centering Prayer, others, even ™. This particular 5pm group meditation in Fairfield, iowa happens to be a facilitated silent time for people to silently practice their meditation in a group with others. -JaiGuruYou rajawilliamsmith writes: TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A place even for meditators who are without badges for the Domes. The Fairfield No-Badge-Nik Group Meditation, weekdays, 5pm at 51 North Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As a service project, the FF meditating Quakers will be staffing this weekday 5pm open group meditation downtown for this month leading up to Election Day. A group meditation even for no-badge-nik meditators.. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation This is an open unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. At 51 North Court Street, Fairfield, Iowa For Weekdays 5pm unto Election Day. In the Quaker method of practicing meditation, as Quakers we have no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this collective practice only as to where speaking out improves upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice. Ours is a quiet practice, you are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us and practice your meditation method as your practice is not disruptive of our own silent practice. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation is a service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On the 40th Day to the Election.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This Weds. A silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown at the Fairfield Square, front door facing the Fairfield, Iowa town square.. 51 N. Court. Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. This is an unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. Meeting As Simple Practicing Meditators we have, no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this meeting for collective meditation only as to where speaking out may improve upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice, You are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us. A service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers), # # ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. Weds. Silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown Fairfield Square, front door, 51 N. Court. Fairfield, Iowa
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
Doug, you got company! Might need to bring in reinforcements from the rear guard. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
Group meditation for meditators without current Dome badges continues on this eve of Election Day, 5pm at 51 N. Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Compatible in silent practice? Surely a lot of silent meditations can be respectfully practiced together in peace. Yogananda silent meditation, Chopra meditation, Oprah’s , Oneness, Sahaja, Mindfulness, Zen, Centering Prayer, others, even ™. This particular 5pm group meditation in Fairfield, iowa happens to be a facilitated silent time for people to silently practice their meditation in a group with others. -JaiGuruYou rajawilliamsmith writes: TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A place even for meditators who are without badges for the Domes. The Fairfield No-Badge-Nik Group Meditation, weekdays, 5pm at 51 North Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As a service project, the FF meditating Quakers will be staffing this weekday 5pm open group meditation downtown for this month leading up to Election Day. A group meditation even for no-badge-nik meditators.. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation This is an open unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. At 51 North Court Street, Fairfield, Iowa For Weekdays 5pm unto Election Day. In the Quaker method of practicing meditation, as Quakers we have no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this collective practice only as to where speaking out improves upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice. Ours is a quiet practice, you are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us and practice your meditation method as your practice is not disruptive of our own silent practice. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation is a service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On the 40th Day to the Election.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This Weds. A silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown at the Fairfield Square, front door facing the Fairfield, Iowa town square.. 51 N. Court. Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. This is an unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. Meeting As Simple Practicing Meditators we have, no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this meeting for collective meditation only as to where speaking out may improve upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice, You are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us. A service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers), # # ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. Weds. Silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown Fairfield Square, front door, 51 N. Court. Fairfield, Iowa
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
Hi Friends We are going to continue with weekday meetings for silent meditation through the month of November… and beyond if there continues to be interest. At 51 North Court in Fairfield. For the rest of this month, with exception of Thanksgiving Day, November 24th, we will gather from 5 to 6pm weekdays. Please feel free to invite others to join us. Just let folks know that our request is that their time there be in silence… that all practices, faiths and teacher/lineages are welcome otherwise. No one is going to ask to see a Dome badge or check! -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Group meditation for meditators without current Dome badges continues on this eve of Election Day, 5pm at 51 N. Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Compatible in silent practice? Surely a lot of silent meditations can be respectfully practiced together in peace. Yogananda silent meditation, Chopra meditation, Oprah’s , Oneness, Sahaja, Mindfulness, Zen, Centering Prayer, others, even ™. This particular 5pm group meditation in Fairfield, iowa happens to be a facilitated silent time for people to silently practice their meditation in a group with others. -JaiGuruYou rajawilliamsmith writes: TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A place even for meditators who are without badges for the Domes. The Fairfield No-Badge-Nik Group Meditation, weekdays, 5pm at 51 North Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As a service project, the FF meditating Quakers will be staffing this weekday 5pm open group meditation downtown for this month leading up to Election Day. A group meditation even for no-badge-nik meditators.. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation This is an open unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. At 51 North Court Street, Fairfield, Iowa For Weekdays 5pm unto Election Day. In the Quaker method of practicing meditation, as Quakers we have no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this collective practice only as to where speaking out improves upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice. Ours is a quiet practice, you are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us and practice your meditation method as your practice is not disruptive of our own silent practice. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation is a service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On the 40th Day to the Election.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This Weds. A silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown at the Fairfield Square, front door facing the Fairfield, Iowa town square.. 51 N. Court. Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. This is an unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. Meeting As Simple Practicing Meditators we have, no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this meeting for collective meditation only as to where speaking out may improve upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice, You are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us. A service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers), # # ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. Weds. Silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown Fairfield Square, front door, 51 N. Court. Fairfield, Iowa
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
FW: A WEEKEND no-badge group meditation, Hi Friends We will gather for group silent meditation on Sunday December 4th at 10:30am at the Hamfam house. Potluck luncheon to follow. A squash soup provided, Conley is bringing her fabulous Mac ‘n cheese, FR's bringing roasted veggies, Franklin…. Looks like it might be a snowy morning. The fire will be toasty! All blessings, -facilitated as a service project by Fairfield, Iowa meditating Quakers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Group meditation for all meditators who are without current Dome badges to practice silent meditation together, continues on weekdays, 5pm at 51 N. Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Compatible in silent practice? Surely a lot of silent meditations can be respectfully practiced together in peace. Yogananda silent meditation, Chopra meditation, Oprah’s , Oneness, Sahaja, Mindfulness, Zen, Centering Prayer, others, even ™. This particular 5pm group meditation in Fairfield, iowa happens to be a facilitated silent time for people to silently practice their meditation in a group with others. -JaiGuruYou rajawilliamsmith writes: TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A place even for meditators who are without badges for the Domes. The Fairfield No-Badge-Nik Group Meditation, weekdays, 5pm at 51 North Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As a service project, the FF meditating Quakers will be staffing this weekday 5pm open group meditation downtown for this month leading up to Election Day. A group meditation even for no-badge-nik meditators.. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation This is an open unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. At 51 North Court Street, Fairfield, Iowa For Weekdays 5pm unto Election Day. In the Quaker mode of practicing silent meditation, as Quakers we have no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this collective practice only as to where speaking out improves upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice. Ours is a quiet practice, you are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us and practice your meditation method as your practice is not disruptive of our own silent practice. The 5pm Weekday Group Meditation is a service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On the 40th Day to the Election.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This Weds. A silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown at the Fairfield Square, front door facing the Fairfield, Iowa town square.. 51 N. Court. Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. This is an unprogrammed silence-based meditative experience that will last for about an hour. Meeting As Simple Practicing Meditators we have, no formal creed no paid ministers no preaching no rites and, speaking during this meeting for collective meditation only as to where speaking out may improve upon the silence of the meeting. Ours is a silence-based corporate spiritual practice. This is an old practice, You are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us. A service project of the Fairfield Iowa Society of Meditating Friends (Quakers), # # ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Hi Friends In support of the collective need for peaceful influences in our lives/world we are offering opportunities for a silence-based group meditation. Weds. Silent meditation at 5:00pm downtown Fairfield Square, front door, 51 N. Court. Fairfield, Iowa
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
What?? People speak "the Word of God" during silent Quaker meetings? That's news to me (and a good reason for why I wouldn't get involved in that). I'm suspicious of anybody claiming to know the "Word of God" In any event, thx Doug for the nice intro into various facets of Compassion - a difficult topic to get a handle on due its vastness and starkly different approaches. But the way things are shaping up especially including the scientific evidence, .. ... Old model of reality: 1. Meditate and "take it as it comes" 2. No deliberate attempt to incorporate mood making, but if moods spontaneously arise, follow (1) and the usual TM instructions. 3. No particular attention need given to Compassion, since the practice itself will result in many benefits that include that, along with overall happiness and better health. New Model of reality. 1. Complementary benefits of meditation along with Compassion. This can involve TM or other forms of meditation, and 2. Deliberate attempt to cultivate Compassion, with mood making playing a role initially at least. After a degree of Compassion sets in, it tends to have a self-expanding quality radiating as a subtle form of Shakti into the environment and to all people. 3. There need not be a particular appearance of Compassion (such as giving $ and food to the poor, helping to rebuild the devastated homes of those in need, doing volunteer work and disaster relief. 4. The reason for the "there need not"...in (3) may be explained by the powerful amount of Shakti radiated by some Gurus such as Ammachi. This Shakti may manifest in countless ways for the benefit of humanity. The mechanisms behind such radiation may be too subtle for ordinary perception. Thus, Gurus like Guru Dev, Aurobindo, Ramakrishna, and Ramana Maharshi on a superficial level may not seem Compassionate, but on a more subtle level their influence could have global implications of vast importance.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
Actually it seems you would like our Fairfield Quaker Meeting of meditators. Quaker Meetings can vary by character of the people in the meeting. Our Fairfield Quaker Meeting is a silent meeting. A vocal satsang that often does go on mostly happens afterwards and it can be quite informing, spiritual and inspired in the words of it. During the meeting itself the old adage regarding speaking out during meeting is that it is okay to an extent that it may add to the silence of the meeting. Some number of years ago someone attended here who had come from meetings in San Francisco. In larger times of conflict Quaker Meetings can experience an influx of people new to the Society of Friends coming because of the social activism that Friends have been known for. Like, for the Friends peace and anti-war testimony. This occurred during the Gulf wars and before during the Vietnam war. This meditator who attended SF meetings before would come to our silent Fairfield meeting and proceed to use it as a forum to soapbox, coming in attendance with prepared notes to speak from. This earnest attender was dealt with kindly by an old Hicksite Quaker who came to meditating in Fairfield from an old East coast Quaker meeting. More to come on cultivating compassion, spirituality, and social-justice activism.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What?? People speak "the Word of God" during silent Quaker meetings? That's news to me (and a good reason for why I wouldn't get involved in that). I'm suspicious of anybody claiming to know the "Word of God" In any event, thx Doug for the nice intro into various facets of Compassion - a difficult topic to get a handle on due its vastness and starkly different approaches. But the way things are shaping up especially including the scientific evidence, .. ... Old model of reality: 1. Meditate and "take it as it comes" 2. No deliberate attempt to incorporate mood making, but if moods spontaneously arise, follow (1) and the usual TM instructions. 3. No particular attention need given to Compassion, since the practice itself will result in many benefits that include that, along with overall happiness and better health. New Model of reality. 1. Complementary benefits of meditation along with Compassion. This can involve TM or other forms of meditation, and 2. Deliberate attempt to cultivate Compassion, with mood making playing a role initially at least. After a degree of Compassion sets in, it tends to have a self-expanding quality radiating as a subtle form of Shakti into the environment and to all people. 3. There need not be a particular appearance of Compassion (such as giving $ and food to the poor, helping to rebuild the devastated homes of those in need, doing volunteer work and disaster relief. 4. The reason for the "there need not"...in (3) may be explained by the powerful amount of Shakti radiated by some Gurus such as Ammachi. This Shakti may manifest in countless ways for the benefit of humanity. The mechanisms behind such radiation may be too subtle for ordinary perception. Thus, Gurus like Guru Dev, Aurobindo, Ramakrishna, and Ramana Maharshi on a superficial level may not seem Compassionate, but on a more subtle level their influence could have global implications of vast importance.
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Thx, Social Activism is great.need more Quakers to eventually help the hordes of homeless people populating our large and medium sized cities. But not great when it degenerates into political ideologues like many living in SF; or "Community Activists" who think they know what's best for people; when in fact they don't have a clue. .
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A 5pm Weekday Group Meditation also for Fairfield No-badge-nik Meditators
THANKS 4 this post next time in town will avail my self of such Doug THANKS In a message dated 05/28/17 05:47:34 Eastern Daylight Time, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes: Group meditation for all meditators who are without current Dome badges to practice silent meditation together, continues on weekdays, 5pm at 51 N. Court in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Compatible in silent practice? Surely a lot of silent meditations can be respectfully practiced together in peace. :Yogananda silent meditation, Chopra meditation, Oprah’s , Oneness, Sahaja, Mindfulness, Zen, Centering Prayer, others, even ™. This particular 5pm group meditation in Fairfield, iowa happens to be a facilitated silent time for people to silently practice their meditation in a group with others. -JaiGuruYou rajawilliamsmith writes: TM and Quaker meetings don't go together, when we sit down using TM we use a mantra, learning TM we learn how to use that, we can meditate on bus or anywhere, but we are ignoring the outside noise. At a quaker meeting the, impulse to speak is defined as the word of god. If they want me to go to the Dome and give a speech during mediation, than maybe we can go to a Quaker meeting and tell them we are meditating. The silents we have during a Quaker meeting is drawn deeper with the impulse to speak the word of god. but once someone says something its starts to be drawn away. If they had to rename the Quaker meeting they should call them spiritual hacks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Actually it seems you would like our Fairfield Quaker Meeting of meditators. Quaker Meetings can vary by character of the people in the meeting. Our Fairfield Quaker Meeting is a silent meeting. A vocal satsang that often does go on mostly happens afterwards and it can be quite informing, spiritual and inspired in the words of it. During the meeting itself the old adage regarding speaking out during meeting is that it is okay to an extent that it may add to the silence of the meeting. Some number of years ago someone attended here who had come from meetings in San Francisco. In larger times of conflict Quaker Meetings can experience an influx of people new to the Society of Friends coming because of the social activism that Friends have been known for. Like, for the Friends peace and anti-war testimony. This occurred during the Gulf wars and before during the Vietnam war. This meditator who attended SF meetings before would come to our silent Fairfield meeting and proceed to use it as a forum to soapbox, coming in attendance with prepared notes to speak from. This earnest attender was dealt with kindly by an old Hicksite Quaker who came to meditating in Fairfield from an old East coast Quaker meeting. More to come on cultivating compassion, spirituality, and social-justice activism.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What?? People speak "the Word of God" during silent Quaker meetings? That's news to me (and a good reason for why I wouldn't get involved in that). I'm suspicious of anybody claiming to know the "Word of God" In any event, thx for the nice intro into various facets of Compassion - a difficult topic to get a handle on due its vastness and starkly different approaches. But the way things are shaping up especially including the scientific evidence, .. ... Old model of reality: 1. Meditate and "take it as it comes" 2. No deliberate attempt to incorporate mood making, but if moods spontaneously arise, follow (1) and the usual TM instructions. 3. No particular attention need given to Compassion, since the practice itself will result in many benefits that include that, along with overall happiness and better health. New Model of reality. 1. Complementary benefits of meditation along with Compassion. This can involve TM or other forms of meditation, and 2. Deliberate attempt to cultivate Compassion, with mood making playing a role initially at least. After a degree of Compassion sets in, it tends to have a self-expanding quality radiating as a subtle form of Shakti into the environment and to all people. 3. There need not be a particular appearance of Compassion (such as giving $ and food to the poor, helping to rebuild the devastated homes of those in need, doing volunteer work and disaster relief. 4. The reason for the "there need not"...in (3) may be explained by the powerful amount of Shakti radiated by some Gurus such as Ammachi. This Shakti may manifest in countless ways for the benefit of humanity. The mechanisms behind such radiation may be too subtle for ordinary perception. Thus, Gurus like Guru Dev, Aurobindo, Ramakrishna, and Ramana Maharshi on a superficial level may not seem Compassionate, but on a more subtle level their influence could have global implications of vast importance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FW: A