[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > If you pulled your head > > > out long enough to actually read some of the things > > > printed about Mr. Creme by those in the larger > > > spiritual community, you'd know that he is regarded > > > almost universally at best as a joke, at worst as a > > > charlatan. > > > > Thats an interesting criteria to evaluate a > > teacher that one is drawn to: how "the larger > > spiritual community" evaluates them > > > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view Fred Lenz -- who > became > >Rama? > > > > How did the "larger spiritual community" view Jesus, Buddha, > Mohammed, etc while they were still alive, or within a few years of > their deaths? Or Maharishi Mahesh Yogi while still alive. These people come and go, and sometimes they just love to cruzify a little... > > > http://skepdic.com/rama.html > > > > http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/williams-article.html > > > > http://www.cultnews.com/index.php/category/swamirama/ > > > > With my less-than-half brain, I took the first three articles that > > Google spit out. Maybe you have some cites from "the larger > spiritual > > community" that view Lenz favorably. > > > > Maybe Lup has such for Creme. > > > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view MMY? > > > > Was the Lenz trip a waste of time? Was the Maharishi gig? Have > > you spent decades chasing things that "sound too good to be true"? > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > If you pulled your head > > out long enough to actually read some of the things > > printed about Mr. Creme by those in the larger > > spiritual community, you'd know that he is regarded > > almost universally at best as a joke, at worst as a > > charlatan. > > Thats an interesting criteria to evaluate a > teacher that one is drawn to: how "the larger > spiritual community" evaluates them > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view Fred Lenz -- who became >Rama? > How did the "larger spiritual community" view Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, etc while they were still alive, or within a few years of their deaths? > http://skepdic.com/rama.html > > http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/williams-article.html > > http://www.cultnews.com/index.php/category/swamirama/ > > With my less-than-half brain, I took the first three articles that > Google spit out. Maybe you have some cites from "the larger spiritual > community" that view Lenz favorably. > > Maybe Lup has such for Creme. > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view MMY? > > Was the Lenz trip a waste of time? Was the Maharishi gig? Have > you spent decades chasing things that "sound too good to be true"? > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--Yes, Fred Lenz was a lunatic too. Re the article presented on Creme, (the supposed list of facts), some of them are in a gray area of contention; but the bottom line IMO, must point to the direct or circumstantial evidence regarding his very existence. He should at least make some type of physical appearance, more substantial than some easily doctored photos of some guy in Nairobi with a turban and a beard, wearing a white robe. Even the most camera shy Gurus have made some type of appearance such that people can verify he really exists. Take Guru Dev, the living embodiment of humility. People demanded hims to come out and be carried on a palanquin. He didn't look like the type of person to get caught up into fanfare and popular hoopla, but at least he showed up. Where's Maitreya? Where's the beef? there is little to none. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > If you pulled your head > > out long enough to actually read some of the things > > printed about Mr. Creme by those in the larger > > spiritual community, you'd know that he is regarded > > almost universally at best as a joke, at worst as a > > charlatan. > > Thats an interesting criteria to evaluate a > teacher that one is drawn to: how "the larger > spiritual community" evaluates them > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view Fred Lenz -- who became >Rama? > > http://skepdic.com/rama.html > > http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/williams-article.html > > http://www.cultnews.com/index.php/category/swamirama/ > > With my less-than-half brain, I took the first three articles that > Google spit out. Maybe you have some cites from "the larger spiritual > community" that view Lenz favorably. > > Maybe Lup has such for Creme. > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view MMY? > > Was the Lenz trip a waste of time? Was the Maharishi gig? Have > you spent decades chasing things that "sound too good to be true"? > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > If you pulled your head > > > out long enough to actually read some of the things > > > printed about Mr. Creme by those in the larger > > > spiritual community, you'd know that he is regarded > > > almost universally at best as a joke, at worst as a > > > charlatan. > > > > Thats an interesting criteria to evaluate a > > teacher that one is drawn to: how "the larger > > spiritual community" evaluates them > > > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view Fred Lenz -- who > became > >Rama? > > > > http://skepdic.com/rama.html > > > > http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/williams-article.html > > > > http://www.cultnews.com/index.php/category/swamirama/ > > > > With my less-than-half brain, I took the first three articles that > > Google spit out. Maybe you have some cites from "the larger > spiritual > > community" that view Lenz favorably. > > > > Maybe Lup has such for Creme. > > > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view MMY? > > > > Was the Lenz trip a waste of time? Was the Maharishi gig? Have > > you spent decades chasing things that "sound too good to be true"? > > Very good points. > The thing is that I have no interest in how so-called "spiritual > groups" view Benjamin Creme. I simply go by my intuition. Which Barry is fond of telling people to do "go by ones intuition" -- and telling people what fools they are, if not complete raving assholes, for not doing so. But the other day, Barry/Unc/Turq apparently decided to use another side of his mouth and came up with the above criteria for teachers. Which he is embarrassed to use on his past teachers. Perhaps all this talk of precesional shifts and changing directions had caused him to get his "rap" mixed-up and which of the many sides of his to rant with. But the really funny yet sad aspect is Barry appears to view his contradictictory proclamations and unsolicited advice about how we should live our lives as signs of his enlightenment. In BarryLoka, apparently, the more contradictory you are about everyday things, the more enlightened you are. Sort of like BushLoka. And it appears Barry wants to be the "most" enlightened -- so he can be the most special -- and be the most unlike you and me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Feeling particularly threatened tonight, dude? > > We've all seen this before...you make an ass of > yourself, >someone calls you on it, Hahaha, are referring my post questioning an article cited as being publihsed in the NYT on Jan 28, about a law cited as being signed on jan 26? There was no such article on jan 28(that I could find). There was no such law signed jan 26. So I asked for a cite And we found out that the "controversy" was a) three weeks earlier than said, and b) was not AT ALL as represented in the post that I quesioned. Wow, you sure caught me in a huge gaff!!! HAHAHAHA And you were convinced the contoversey was REAL -- our liberties had been taken away and arrests were about commence -- all things I questioned from common sense -- and turned out in REALITY, to be false. And you are snickering about others being publicly embarrased? HAHAHAHAHAHA. One can't make this stuff up. Its too rich! --- it must be truly painful > to have a self so tiny and constricting Your self-examination memoir is really quite brave. But I see you AGAIN, as ALWAYS, you create some lame cover as to why you can't address qustioning of your sloppy thinking. Your position that you have a license to utter nonsense contradictions in the realm of worldly things, because languange about "enlightenment" can have contradictions, is so laughably absurd again, one can't make this stuff up. Its too rich! > > The classic charlatan trick: "Yes, I am full of conteradictions, > > because I am so enlightened" > > But Barry, when the hallucinations die down a bit, msaybe you will > > remember, or perhaps realize for the first time, that: > > > > --- many contradictions are just that -- utterings of confused > minds > > or logic > > > > --- not all or even many statements about enlightenment are > contradictory. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Feeling particularly threatened tonight, dude? > > We've all seen this before...you make an ass of > yourself, >someone calls you on it, Hahaha, are referring my post questioning an article cited cited as being publihsed in the NYT on Jan 26? There was no such article. I asked for a cite and found the "controversy" was a) three weeks earlier than said, and b) was not AT ALL as represented in the post I quesioned. Wow, you sure caught me in a huge gaff. And you were convinced the contoversey was REAL -- our liberties had been taken away and arrests were about commence -- all things I questioned from common sense -- and turned out in REALITY, to be false. And you are snickering about others being publicly embarrased? HAHAHAHAHAH. One can't make this stuff up. Its too rich! --- it must be truly painful > to have a self so tiny and constricting Your self-examination memoir is really quite brave. But I see you AGAIN, as ALWAYS, you create some lame cover as to why you can't address qustioning of your sloppy thinking. Your position that you have a license to utter nonsense contradictions in the realm of worldly things, because languange about "enlightenment" can have contradictions, is so laughably absurd again, one can't make this stuff up. Its too rich! > > The classic charlatan trick: "Yes, I am full of conteradictions, > > because I am so enlightened" > > But Barry, when the hallucinations die down a bit, msaybe you will > > remember, or perhaps realize for the first time, that: > > > > --- many contradictions are just that -- utterings of confused > minds > > or logic > > > > --- not all or even many statements about enlightenment are > contradictory. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > If you pulled your head > > out long enough to actually read some of the things > > printed about Mr. Creme by those in the larger > > spiritual community, you'd know that he is regarded > > almost universally at best as a joke, at worst as a > > charlatan. > > Thats an interesting criteria to evaluate a > teacher that one is drawn to: how "the larger > spiritual community" evaluates them > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view Fred Lenz -- who became >Rama? > > http://skepdic.com/rama.html > > http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/williams-article.html > > http://www.cultnews.com/index.php/category/swamirama/ > > With my less-than-half brain, I took the first three articles that > Google spit out. Maybe you have some cites from "the larger spiritual > community" that view Lenz favorably. > > Maybe Lup has such for Creme. > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view MMY? > > Was the Lenz trip a waste of time? Was the Maharishi gig? Have > you spent decades chasing things that "sound too good to be true"? Very good points. The thing is that I have no interest in how so-called "spiritual groups" view Benjamin Creme. I simply go by my intuition. By the way, the january/february issue of Share Internatioal is out today and can be viewed at : http://www.shareintl.org/magazine/SI_current.htm Enjoy :-) > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
Feeling particularly threatened tonight, dude? We've all seen this before...you make an ass of yourself, someone calls you on it, and you have to post at least half a dozen diatribes against them. I feel for you -- it must be truly painful to have a self so tiny and constricting -- but your problems are not my concern, and your ego- babble just isn't interesting enough to reply to, much less get involved with. So have fun arguing with your self, eh? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > That you don't want to get sucked into discussing the regular > > > contradictions in your emphatic declarations is clear. > > > > That you are unable to handle contradictions > > is clearer. You seem to believe that they > > are incompatible with enlightenment and/or > > higher states of consciousness. You're in > > for a big surprise... :-) :-) :-) > > The classic charlatan trick: "Yes, I am full of contradictions, > because I am so enlightened" > > But Barry, when the hallucinations die down a bit, maybe you will > remember, or perhaps realize for the first time, that: > > --- many contradictions are just that -- utterings of confused minds > or logic > > --- not all or even many statements about enlightenment are contradictory. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That you don't want to get sucked into discussing the regular > > contradictions in your emphatic declarations is clear. > > That you are unable to handle contradictions > is clearer. You seem to believe that they > are incompatible with enlightenment and/or > higher states of consciousness. You're in > for a big surprise... :-) :-) :-) The classic charlatan trick: "Yes, I am full of contradictions, because I am so enlightened" But Barry, when the hallucinations die down a bit, maybe you will remember, or perhaps realize for the first time, that: --- many contradictions are just that -- utterings of confused minds or logic --- not all or even many statements about enlightenment are contradictory. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That you don't want to get sucked into discussing the regular > > contradictions in your emphatic declarations is clear. > That you are unable to handle contradictions > is clearer. You seem to believe that they > are incompatible with enlightenment Your flashbacks, hallucinations and large cognitive errors are surging again Barry. Maybe you should cut down on the absinthe. Never said above, never implied above. But I understand you have a hard time following things when the type keeps changing into crawly worms and snakes. >and/or > higher states of consciousness. You're in > for a big surprise... :-) :-) :-) Ah, so you are enlightened now, clearly you must be speaking from experience. Must be a new awakening because not long ago you declared you were not enlightened. Oh, maybe thats that famous umbrella where anything goes "Its a Paradox of Brahman" -- lets sing along -- "I have no ego, and you have an ego And we both are so enlightened. But were not enlightened also, Its such a joy. Its such a joy. Enlightenment means that You see everything as it is. And I am so enlightened Though I see way more stuff on the page that does not exist than does. But were not silly, its just the Paradox of Brahman. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That you don't want to get sucked into discussing the regular > contradictions in your emphatic declarations is clear. That you are unable to handle contradictions is clearer. You seem to believe that they are incompatible with enlightenment and/or higher states of consciousness. You're in for a big surprise... :-) :-) :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My, the things people do to distract attention from > the fact they've made fools of themselves in public. :-) Which time are you referring to? It happens a lot. Unlike you, apparently, it doesn't bother me. I love to laugh at my foibles. You seem scared of yours. > > You don't actually think you're going to suck me into > one of your endless egobattles, do you? That you don't want to get sucked into discussing the regular contradictions in your emphatic declarations is clear. Lets try one more time (yes its kind of fun watch you run and hide) Unc: > > > If you pulled your head > > > out long enough to actually read some of the things > > > printed about Mr. Creme by those in the larger > > > spiritual community, you'd know hat he is regarded > > > almost universally at best as a joke, at worst as a > > > charlatan. Gabby: > > Thats an interesting criteria to evaluate a > > teacher that one is drawn to: how "the larger > > spiritual community" evaluates them > > > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view Fred Lenz -- > > who became Rama? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
My, the things people do to distract attention from the fact they've made fools of themselves in public. :-) You don't actually think you're going to suck me into one of your endless egobattles, do you? You should take on Judy...she *lives* for this kinda defend- your-ego and defend-your-teacher shit. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > If you pulled your head > > out long enough to actually read some of the things > > printed about Mr. Creme by those in the larger > > spiritual community, you'd know that he is regarded > > almost universally at best as a joke, at worst as a > > charlatan. > > Thats an interesting criteria to evaluate a > teacher that one is drawn to: how "the larger > spiritual community" evaluates them > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view Fred Lenz -- > who became Rama? > > http://skepdic.com/rama.html > > http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/williams-article.html > > http://www.cultnews.com/index.php/category/swamirama/ > > With my less-than-half brain, I took the first three articles that > Google spit out. Maybe you have some cites from "the larger > spiritual community" that view Lenz favorably. > > Maybe Lup has such for Creme. > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view MMY? > > Was the Lenz trip a waste of time? Was the Maharishi gig? Have > you spent decades chasing things that "sound too good to be true"? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If you pulled your head > out long enough to actually read some of the things > printed about Mr. Creme by those in the larger > spiritual community, you'd know that he is regarded > almost universally at best as a joke, at worst as a > charlatan. Thats an interesting criteria to evaluate a teacher that one is drawn to: how "the larger spiritual community" evaluates them How does "the larger spiritual community" view Fred Lenz -- who became Rama? http://skepdic.com/rama.html http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/williams-article.html http://www.cultnews.com/index.php/category/swamirama/ With my less-than-half brain, I took the first three articles that Google spit out. Maybe you have some cites from "the larger spiritual community" that view Lenz favorably. Maybe Lup has such for Creme. How does "the larger spiritual community" view MMY? Was the Lenz trip a waste of time? Was the Maharishi gig? Have you spent decades chasing things that "sound too good to be true"? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/bkxfd > > > > > > > > I seriously doubt Vaj is doing himself a favor by posting > > > > this utter rubbish. > > > > > > I think he was trying to do *you* the favor. :-) > > > > Sorry, it's on a level of total rubbish, no serious person would > be > > able to look at it "favorably" whatever their level of > > appreciation of Maitreya. Take a look and see for yourself. > > Sorry, but you're wrong. The author's tone is harsh > and a bit over the top, but as far as I know every- > thing he says is factual. If you pulled your head > out long enough to actually read some of the things > printed about Mr. Creme by those in the larger > spiritual community, you'd know that he is regarded > almost universally at best as a joke, at worst as a > charlatan. If you were *trying* to be laughed at > for your lack of discrimination, you could not have > picked a better teacher to associate with to accom- > plish this. > A bit over the top, but factual ? Take a look at these statements: "Maitreya was devised decades ago by cult founder Benjamin Creme..." "...(Maitreya) who Creme says has a 3000 year old indestructible body..." "...Maitreyas economic theories are based on various forms of financially-bankrupt European socialism..." "...Buddha is not expected for about 40 million years..." Just a few examples of that authors obvious ignorance. I'm not aware of what "spiritual community" you are referring to, but it would not be a surprise if it is the same, very advanced spiritual souls for sure, who claim Maharishi to be a fraud also. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/bkxfd > > > > > > I seriously doubt Vaj is doing himself a favor by posting > > > this utter rubbish. > > > > I think he was trying to do *you* the favor. :-) > > Sorry, it's on a level of total rubbish, no serious person would be > able to look at it "favorably" whatever their level of > appreciation of Maitreya. Take a look and see for yourself. Sorry, but you're wrong. The author's tone is harsh and a bit over the top, but as far as I know every- thing he says is factual. If you pulled your head out long enough to actually read some of the things printed about Mr. Creme by those in the larger spiritual community, you'd know that he is regarded almost universally at best as a joke, at worst as a charlatan. If you were *trying* to be laughed at for your lack of discrimination, you could not have picked a better teacher to associate with to accom- plish this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/bkxfd > > > > I seriously doubt Vaj is doing himself a favor by posting this > > utter rubbish. > > I think he was trying to do *you* the favor. :-) Sorry, it's on a level of total rubbish, no serious person would be able to look at it "favorably" whatever their level of appreciation of Maitreya. Take a look and see for yourself. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/bkxfd > > I seriously doubt Vaj is doing himself a favor by posting this > utter rubbish. I think he was trying to do *you* the favor. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Benjamin Creme and the Maitreya fraud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://tinyurl.com/bkxfd I seriously doubt Vaj is doing himself a favor by posting this utter rubbish. Those who want to read the real stuff can go to: http://www.shareintl.org/magazine/SI_current.htm > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
