[FairfieldLife] Re: Bird Flu, was: Florida News

2005-10-31 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 10/31/05 2:44 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I'm talking about the mindset.  Having bought into
  the propaganda being distributed right now, which
  IMO is *intended to* create a sense of fear in the
  population.  T'would seem that it worked.
 
 You don't think the bird flu thing is a real threat?


At least one person is coming forth saying it is nothing more than a)
a plan to keep the fear going b) moneymaking for the same ol' people

http://www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/avian_flu_epidemic_is_a_hoax.htm





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bird Flu, was: Florida News

2005-10-31 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 10/31/05 2:44 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I'm talking about the mindset.  Having bought into
  the propaganda being distributed right now, which
  IMO is *intended to* create a sense of fear in the
  population.  T'would seem that it worked.
 
 You don't think the bird flu thing is a real threat?


Rumsfeld To Profit From Avian Flu Hoax

Finally, the pieces of the puzzle start to add up. Last week,
President Bush sought to instill panic in this country by telling us a
minimum of 200,000 people will die from the avian flu pandemic but it
could be as bad as 2 million deaths in this country alone.

This hoax is then used to justify the immediate purchase of 80 million
doses of Tamiflu, a worthless drug that in no way shape or form treats
the avian flu, but only decreases the amount of days one is sick and
can actually contribute to the virus having more lethal mutations.

So the U.S. placed an order for 20 million doses of this worthless
drug at a price of $100 per dose. That comes to a staggering $2 billion.

We are being told that Roche manufactures Tamiflu and, in yesterday's
New York Times, they were battling whether or not they would allow
generic drug companies to help increase their production.

But if you dig further you will find that a drug was actually
developed by a company called Gilead that 10 years ago gave Roche the
exclusive rights to market and sell Tamiflu.

Ahh, The Plot Thickens...

If you read the link below from Gilead, you'll discover Defense
Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was made the chairman of Gilead in 1997.

Since Rumsfeld holds major portions of stock in Gilead, he will
handsomely profit from the scare tactics of the government that is
being used to justify the purchase of $2 billion of Tamiflu.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bird Flu, was: Florida News

2005-10-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 10/31/05 2:44 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I'm talking about the mindset.  Having bought into
  the propaganda being distributed right now, which
  IMO is *intended to* create a sense of fear in the
  population.  T'would seem that it worked.
 
 You don't think the bird flu thing is a real threat?

It might become one, but it is being hyped by the 
media to inspire fear.  The fear is not justified
by the current state of the disease, but is being
exploited because it money for the media.  Bad news
sells.  The badder the news, the more fear it inspires,
the more money you make.  Simple as that.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bird Flu, was: Florida News

2005-10-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  on 10/31/05 2:44 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   I'm talking about the mindset.  Having bought into
   the propaganda being distributed right now, which
   IMO is *intended to* create a sense of fear in the
   population.  T'would seem that it worked.
  
  You don't think the bird flu thing is a real threat?
 
 At least one person is coming forth saying it is nothing more than
 a) a plan to keep the fear going b) moneymaking for the same ol' 
 people
 
 http://www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/avian_flu_epidemic_is_a_hoax.htm

He makes a few good points, but he misses (I can't
believe it's inadvertent) the *main* point, which
is the threat that the bird flu virus will mutate
to human-to-human transmission.  A virus that is
passed from birds to humans is not a major threat;
one that passes from humans to humans, against which
humans do not have immunity, is a potential global
disaster--not just from the illness itself but from
the large-scale breakdowns of essential services
and even international order that are likely to
occur as a result.

Independent epidemology and infectious disease
experts generally agree that the likelihood of
mutation to human-to-human transmission is high.

Everything else is just speculation at this point:
when it will happen, how virulent and lethal the
mutated virus will be.  But not to prepare for the
worst-case scenario is a little like telling
a heavy smoker that he doesn't need to quit
because it's possible he won't get lung cancer.

Moreover, even if this particular strain of avian
flu doesn't mutate into a real killer, there are
plenty of other animal diseases which could also
mutate at some point and cause a pandemic.  The
experts say it's not a matter of if but when.

(These experts, by the way, are not all employed
by companies that make vaccines and antiviral
medications, nor are they all employed by the
government or the media.  There's good reason to
think the government *does* want us to be afraid,
and the pharma companies *do* want to sell lots
of drugs, and the media *do* want to attract
maximum eyeballs--but this does NOT mean there
is no threat.  It simply means the drug companies
and the government and the media are opportunists
who aim to take advantage of the threat to advance
their own goals.)






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bird Flu, was: Florida News

2005-10-31 Thread Sal Sunshine
Remember the duct tape and plastic sheets episode?  Turns out the companies that make both those things donated heavily to Bush et al in the first campaign.

On Oct 31, 2005, at 10:21 AM, anonymousff wrote:

 Since Rumsfeld holds major portions of stock in Gilead, he will
 handsomely profit from the scare tactics of the government that is
 being used to justify the purchase of $2 billion of Tamiflu.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bird Flu, was: Florida News

2005-10-31 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  on 10/31/05 2:44 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   I'm talking about the mindset.  Having bought into
   the propaganda being distributed right now, which
   IMO is *intended to* create a sense of fear in the
   population.  T'would seem that it worked.
  
  You don't think the bird flu thing is a real threat?
 
 
 Rumsfeld To Profit From Avian Flu Hoax
 
 Finally, the pieces of the puzzle start to add up. Last week,
 President Bush sought to instill panic in this country by telling us a
 minimum of 200,000 people will die from the avian flu pandemic but it
 could be as bad as 2 million deaths in this country alone.
 
 This hoax is then used to justify the immediate purchase of 80 million
 doses of Tamiflu, a worthless drug that in no way shape or form treats
 the avian flu, but only decreases the amount of days one is sick and
 can actually contribute to the virus having more lethal mutations.
 
 So the U.S. placed an order for 20 million doses of this worthless
 drug at a price of $100 per dose. That comes to a staggering $2 billion.
 
 We are being told that Roche manufactures Tamiflu and, in yesterday's
 New York Times, they were battling whether or not they would allow
 generic drug companies to help increase their production.
 
 But if you dig further you will find that a drug was actually
 developed by a company called Gilead that 10 years ago gave Roche the
 exclusive rights to market and sell Tamiflu.
 
 Ahh, The Plot Thickens...
 
 If you read the link below from Gilead, you'll discover Defense
 Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was made the chairman of Gilead in 1997.
 
 Since Rumsfeld holds major portions of stock in Gilead, he will
 handsomely profit from the scare tactics of the government that is
 being used to justify the purchase of $2 billion of Tamiflu.



Yea, that conspiracy sounds so plausible. Lets see, how would that
unfold. The cabinet is sitting around and Rummie says: 

Hey guys, its my turn to profit from some scam. I gave my Gilead
stock to my private foundatation, but its now fighting to get the
rights back for manufacturing Tamiflu. It may or may not be
successful, and if it does, it may or may not make no more money from
Tamiflu than by simply  licencing it from Roche -- since Roche is
offering that now. But hey, why don't you guys in Health and all stir
up this big scar -- and then we can spend more money we don't have for
nothing useful -- even tho we have a huge budget crunch, and even tho
this would  be a huge scandal if uncovered and would sink the
administration and disgrace all of us eternally,  and Gilead may or
may not profit, so fucking what, because my foundation might then have
some more money to spend on public service things. And somehow, that
makes me happy -- even though with my existing 35-135 million that I
have, I could just give more to the foundation if I want to do more
foundation work, but what the hell, you guys have nothing better to
do. So please guys do one for the Rummie.

yea, that makes a lot of sense. Got any more good ones to run by us.





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