[FairfieldLife] Re: Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless

2005-03-24 Thread easyone200


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-
> > > > schaivodeath23mar23,0,3402521.story?coll=la-home-headlines
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Concerns for Schiavo's comfort have galvanized the debate. But
> > > experts say dying of 
> > > > starvation and dehydration is a peaceful end for the ill.
> > > > By Karen Kaplan and Rosie Mestel
> > > > Times Staff Writers
> > > + What if they are not ill?
> > >   Around here, you can see the vata types nearly go into shock if
> > > there is the possibility of having to miss a meal.
> > >   These reporters should try going without food and water for a
> > > few weeks and then report back.  N.
> > 
> > The question of illness is not the one addressed here it is the
> experience of dying from the 
> > removal of all food and water and what her experience would be if
> she could experience 
> > anything (which she can't). As far as your vata mumbo jumbo goes,
> the hunger experience 
> > vanishes after no food and water for a few days, that goes for
> everyone. These were Dr's 
> > speaking who deal with the dying every day not reporters opinions.
> Try reading the story.
> +  Is this to mean that starving to death is the same for everyone
> regardless of their condition?
>"The hunger experience vanishes after no food and water for a
> few days"  has that been your experience?  N.

I have not gone without food and water for a few days. I have gone without food 
for 3 days 
and I must say that hunger diminishes. The lack of water is an important factor 
so the Dr's 
report. These are Dr's. that deal with this daily not just since the schaivo 
case has been in 
the news. This is the science, you are welcome to your own opinion.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless

2005-03-24 Thread Nelson


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-
> > > schaivodeath23mar23,0,3402521.story?coll=la-home-headlines
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Concerns for Schiavo's comfort have galvanized the debate. But
> > experts say dying of 
> > > starvation and dehydration is a peaceful end for the ill.
> > > By Karen Kaplan and Rosie Mestel
> > > Times Staff Writers
> > + What if they are not ill?
> >   Around here, you can see the vata types nearly go into shock if
> > there is the possibility of having to miss a meal.
> >   These reporters should try going without food and water for a
> > few weeks and then report back.  N.
> 
> The question of illness is not the one addressed here it is the
experience of dying from the 
> removal of all food and water and what her experience would be if
she could experience 
> anything (which she can't). As far as your vata mumbo jumbo goes,
the hunger experience 
> vanishes after no food and water for a few days, that goes for
everyone. These were Dr's 
> speaking who deal with the dying every day not reporters opinions.
Try reading the story.
+  Is this to mean that starving to death is the same for everyone
regardless of their condition?
   "The hunger experience vanishes after no food and water for a
few days"  has that been your experience?  N.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless

2005-03-24 Thread easyone200


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-
> > schaivodeath23mar23,0,3402521.story?coll=la-home-headlines
> > 
> > 
> > Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless
> > 
> > 
> > Concerns for Schiavo's comfort have galvanized the debate. But
> experts say dying of 
> > starvation and dehydration is a peaceful end for the ill.
> > By Karen Kaplan and Rosie Mestel
> > Times Staff Writers
> + What if they are not ill?
>   Around here, you can see the vata types nearly go into shock if
> there is the possibility of having to miss a meal.
>   These reporters should try going without food and water for a
> few weeks and then report back.  N.

The question of illness is not the one addressed here it is the experience of 
dying from the 
removal of all food and water and what her experience would be if she could 
experience 
anything (which she can't). As far as your vata mumbo jumbo goes, the hunger 
experience 
vanishes after no food and water for a few days, that goes for everyone. These 
were Dr's 
speaking who deal with the dying every day not reporters opinions. Try reading 
the story.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless

2005-03-24 Thread Nelson


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-
> schaivodeath23mar23,0,3402521.story?coll=la-home-headlines
> 
> 
> Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless
> 
> 
> Concerns for Schiavo's comfort have galvanized the debate. But
experts say dying of 
> starvation and dehydration is a peaceful end for the ill.
> By Karen Kaplan and Rosie Mestel
> Times Staff Writers
+ What if they are not ill?
  Around here, you can see the vata types nearly go into shock if
there is the possibility of having to miss a meal.
  These reporters should try going without food and water for a
few weeks and then report back.  N.





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