[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
Re: Colonoscopy I can't imagine that many of the TB TM old timers on this forum have any problem with colonoscopy. After all, they've got their heads so far up their asses already that all they have to do to perform a colonoscopy is turn their heads and look around. :-) Dear Barry, I selected this one post of yours which represents a classic and inimitable Barry post—and which reveals everything about you which I would ever want to say. That any adult normal human being would write what you have written here, knowing how vulnerable each person is in contemplating having this form of examination, it puts you beyond the pale, Barry. No person I know would not, before they wanted to gratify their lust for ridiculing those they look down upon, experience, at least faintly, the actual context of experience which surrounds and defines what having a Colonoscopy is all about. In other words, you would have to be obtusely insensitive and filled with hatred not to feel some ambivalence about exploiting this to show your contempt for other human beings. I remember, when I first read it (October 10) and saying to myself: There: that is the signature of Barry Wright. How appalling, how shocking, how tragic. And yet no one on FFL chose to draw their attention to this. Well, I remembered it, Barry, and it fits perfectly with your attempted blackmail of Bob Price. Robin
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
They have a lite version now that is much easier to drink. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > > > Have any of you ol' timers had it done? > > I had one done about 10 years ago after having some scary output and testing > positive for fecal blood. The worst part of it for me was drinking the gallon > of PEG laxative flush. Thankfully, I had the good sense the day before to run > all my food through a blender, and I did not get any cramps at all. As for > the procedure, they inserted the IV tube, started the flow of Versed and > Demerol, and that's all I remember. I just turned 50, and I probably will > schedule another one before too long. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
I have had three, they are not really that uncomfortable and they can save your life. They found two large polyps during one of mine and removed them during the procedure (I didn't feel a thing.) If they had not removed them, big trouble might have shown up later. Think of it as "preventing the danger that has not yet come." Colonoscopies revealed precancerous polyps in two of my siblings which literally saved their lives. They also revealed early cancer in my father...and thankfully saved his life. I will forever be grateful for this! I wish people didn't see them as such a big deal, they really do save people's lives. It's actually quite interesting to watch them on the monitor if you want.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > > > Any of you ol' timers have an opinion about having a Colonoscopy? > > I can't imagine that many of the TB TM old timers on > this forum have any problem with colonoscopy. After > all, they've got their heads so far up their asses > already that all they have to do to perform a > colonoscopy is turn their heads and look around. :-) Why was it the Turq guy so often was called an asshole here on FFL ? Oh yes, now I remembered.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
Knowing three men (all born within a year of each other and have met each other previous to disease, and lived in different parts of the country and different lifestyle habits) in their forties who had the disease, the screening suggestions for waiting till one is 50 is not a good idea. This colon disease must have started in their 30's. One has passed, one is dying (in hospice) and the other wears a colostomy bag. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > > > > > Have any of you ol' timers had it done? > > > > I had one done about 10 years ago after having some scary > > output and testing positive for fecal blood. The worst part of > > it for me was drinking the gallon of PEG laxative flush. > > Thankfully, I had the good sense the day before to run all my > > food through a blender, and I did not get any cramps at all. > > As for the procedure, they inserted the IV tube, started the > > flow of Versed and Demerol, and that's all I remember. I just > > turned 50, and I probably will schedule another one before too > > long. > > I've had several; I'm at high risk because I have Crohn's > disease (thankfully in remission for 11 years now). Alex > is right, the worst part is the prep the day before. The > procedure itself is a snap, and I've never had any problems > afterward. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > > > Have any of you ol' timers had it done? > > I had one done about 10 years ago after having some scary > output and testing positive for fecal blood. The worst part of > it for me was drinking the gallon of PEG laxative flush. > Thankfully, I had the good sense the day before to run all my > food through a blender, and I did not get any cramps at all. > As for the procedure, they inserted the IV tube, started the > flow of Versed and Demerol, and that's all I remember. I just > turned 50, and I probably will schedule another one before too > long. I've had several; I'm at high risk because I have Crohn's disease (thankfully in remission for 11 years now). Alex is right, the worst part is the prep the day before. The procedure itself is a snap, and I've never had any problems afterward.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > Have any of you ol' timers had it done? I had one done about 10 years ago after having some scary output and testing positive for fecal blood. The worst part of it for me was drinking the gallon of PEG laxative flush. Thankfully, I had the good sense the day before to run all my food through a blender, and I did not get any cramps at all. As for the procedure, they inserted the IV tube, started the flow of Versed and Demerol, and that's all I remember. I just turned 50, and I probably will schedule another one before too long.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > Came across this in response to not having a colonoscopy. > > http://www.fibermenace.com/crc/crc_colonoscopy.html Get your doctor to read this and comment on it. Has s/he recommended a colonoscopy for you? Note that the writer is selling various colon-health products, including a post-colonoscopy "Colorectal Recovery Kit" for $120, so he has a stake in fostering folks' anxiety about the state of their colons and the risks of colonoscopy. Color me dubious. Also find out the statistics on complications of colonoscopy from wherever you're contemplating getting one and compare its complication rate with his statistics. The statistics he gives are overall averages, including from colonoscopy "factories," where the rate of complications may be higher than normal and push up the average. IOW, if you go to a good place, its complication rate may be lower than average. Bottom line, it's worth it if it detects cancer, and not if it doesn't, but you won't know until you have one, so "Is it worth it?" is an unanswerable question for the individual; the overall statistics don't tell you that. Obviously you want to reduce the risk of complications as much as possible, but whether that involves buying expensive "kits" is dubious. Take a look at "About Author" on the Web site. I'm not much impressed with his medical background. His books aren't exactly self-published, but the company that publishes them doesn't seem to publish anything else. He does appear to be well-meaning and humane, but his expertise is another issue. There seems to be a trend recently to downgrade the value of screening tests for people who aren't at high risk--first of mammography, and just recently of PSA tests for prostate cancer--but there's tremendous controversy about this among medical professionals, leading to mass confusion and angst among patients. It's infuriating. The site recommends the book "Should I Be Tested for Cancer?" that has received excellent reviews from medical authorities. I own it, and I think it's excellent. It won't give you yes-or-no answers, but it should help give you a clearer perspective on the risk/benefit equation. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > > > Any of you ol' timers have an opinion about having a Colonoscopy? I > > understand that colon cancer is the second leading cause of cancer in the > > US, 100,000 a year. That's under 3% of the US population. I'm an ol' timer > > but I hate these preventive procedures. What do you think? Is it worth it? > > Have any of you ol' timers had it done? They recommend starting at the age > > of 50. I'm 60 but dam blam it, I think a good shot of whiskey twice a day > > keeps those creepy crawlers away! > > > > Mark
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
I had one but only because I had a symptom. Turned out to be nothing. The procedure is painless. You're not allowed to eat for I think 24 hours before. If I hadn't had the symptom, I wouldn't have bothered with it. Wouldn't even have occurred to me to have it. But the doctor did tell me that "no one has to die from colon cancer" if they have the recommended screening. Insurance is a factor too. It's not a cheap procedure. Being self-employed, I buy my own insurance, and being healthy, I have a high-deductible plan, which reduces the monthly premium. So the colonoscopy cost me quite a lot of money. I don't regret it because, well, you never know . . . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > Any of you ol' timers have an opinion about having a Colonoscopy? I > understand that colon cancer is the second leading cause of cancer in the US, > 100,000 a year. That's under 3% of the US population. I'm an ol' timer but I > hate these preventive procedures. What do you think? Is it worth it? Have any > of you ol' timers had it done? They recommend starting at the age of 50. I'm > 60 but dam blam it, I think a good shot of whiskey twice a day keeps those > creepy crawlers away! > > Mark >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
A colonoscopy is the only cancer screening procedure that can actually prevent the disease. During the procedure, the surgeon snips off any polyps that may be present. It's those polyps that can grow and become malignant. My insurance paid 100 percent of the cost. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > > > Any of you ol' timers have an opinion about having a Colonoscopy? I > > understand that colon cancer is the second leading cause of cancer in the > > US, 100,000 a year. That's under 3% of the US population. I'm an ol' timer > > but I hate these preventive procedures. What do you think? Is it worth it? > > Have any of you ol' timers had it done? They recommend starting at the age > > of 50. I'm 60 but dam blam it, I think a good shot of whiskey twice a day > > keeps those creepy crawlers away! > > > > Mark > > > > I've had 3 so far and I am 62. Very easy and no pain whatsoever. No > radiation like many preventive tests. I had a friend who died of colon cancer > i his 50's and it was not a pretty thing. He did not get a colonoscopy, even > when he had the first signs of it. Colon cancer is totally and easily > treatable when caught early and so toxic and deadly when not caught early. So > I guess my question would be why would you Not get one? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > Any of you ol' timers have an opinion about having a Colonoscopy? I > understand that colon cancer is the second leading cause of cancer in the US, > 100,000 a year. That's under 3% of the US population. I'm an ol' timer but I > hate these preventive procedures. What do you think? Is it worth it? Have any > of you ol' timers had it done? They recommend starting at the age of 50. I'm > 60 but dam blam it, I think a good shot of whiskey twice a day keeps those > creepy crawlers away! > > Mark > I've had 3 so far and I am 62. Very easy and no pain whatsoever. No radiation like many preventive tests. I had a friend who died of colon cancer i his 50's and it was not a pretty thing. He did not get a colonoscopy, even when he had the first signs of it. Colon cancer is totally and easily treatable when caught early and so toxic and deadly when not caught early. So I guess my question would be why would you Not get one?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > Any of you ol' timers have an opinion about having a Colonoscopy? I can't imagine that many of the TB TM old timers on this forum have any problem with colonoscopy. After all, they've got their heads so far up their asses already that all they have to do to perform a colonoscopy is turn their heads and look around. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Colonoscopy
Came across this in response to not having a colonoscopy. http://www.fibermenace.com/crc/crc_colonoscopy.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oye34vay" wrote: > > Any of you ol' timers have an opinion about having a Colonoscopy? I > understand that colon cancer is the second leading cause of cancer in the US, > 100,000 a year. That's under 3% of the US population. I'm an ol' timer but I > hate these preventive procedures. What do you think? Is it worth it? Have any > of you ol' timers had it done? They recommend starting at the age of 50. I'm > 60 but dam blam it, I think a good shot of whiskey twice a day keeps those > creepy crawlers away! > > Mark >
