[FairfieldLife] Re: Conscious transcending thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye).....

2006-09-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (Warning: Proceed at your own risk!  This information for stout 
souls 
 only!)
 
 Unless your have *consciously* experienced the holy AUM vibration 
and 
 passed thru the omnipresent all seeing third eye to spiritual 
light and 
 bliss you *have not transcended*even once! This is the secret, 
 until kundalini rises to the 7th chakra, transcending to 
transcendental 
 pure consciousness is NOT possible!
 
 Whether or not TM enables this experience we are NOT sure, I 
believe at 
 some point it will, but at present no testimony or instruction has 
 suggested that it will.
 
 The bubble diagram only works when one is able to *completely* 
 transcend relativity at least once.  All meditators transcend, but 
 most,if not all, NOT to transcendental pure consciousness, that is 
very 
 rare and one must be highly advanced!  BillyG.

Thanks for this. However, the problem with such statements as above 
is that they portray the enlivening or awakening of the chakras as a 
linear, all or nothing process. This is incorrect.

It is true that the third eye must be opened as an element of living 
pure consciousness 24X7, though many other combinations are 
possible. For example, we can have the experience of the third eye 
opening, and then closing again, and then reopening as a result of 
new integration with Being. However during this time we are not to 
be said fully enlightened, or living Being 24X7. 

24X7 enlightenment comes about as a result of continuously culturing 
the nervous system, and attuning it to Being. It is a gradual 
process of purification, attained efficiently through the practice 
of TM and TM-Sidhis. 

Then when we are ready, a phase transition occurs, changing our life 
forever, when we are fully integrated with Being. Spiritual 
eveloution continues after this point of course, though the 
transition beween a bound life and a life in eternal freedom is a 
one time, unmistakable experience.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Conscious transcending thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye).....

2006-09-04 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (Warning: Proceed at your own risk!  This information for stout 
souls 
 only!)
 
 Unless your have *consciously* experienced the holy AUM vibration 
and 
 passed thru the omnipresent all seeing third eye to spiritual light 
and 
 bliss you *have not transcended*even once! This is the secret, 
 until kundalini rises to the 7th chakra, transcending to 
transcendental 
 pure consciousness is NOT possible!
 
 Whether or not TM enables this experience we are NOT sure, I 
believe at 
 some point it will, but at present no testimony or instruction has 
 suggested that it will.
 
 The bubble diagram only works when one is able to *completely* 
 transcend relativity at least once.  All meditators transcend, but 
 most,if not all, NOT to transcendental pure consciousness, that is 
very 
 rare and one must be highly advanced!  BillyG.


I seem to be usually at svaadhiSThaana (sva + adhi + sthaana) or 
below...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Conscious transcending thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye).....

2006-09-04 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  (Warning: Proceed at your own risk!  This information for stout 
 souls 
  only!)
  
  Unless your have *consciously* experienced the holy AUM vibration 
 and 
  passed thru the omnipresent all seeing third eye to spiritual 
 light and 
  bliss you *have not transcended*even once! This is the 
secret, 
  until kundalini rises to the 7th chakra, transcending to 
 transcendental 
  pure consciousness is NOT possible!
  
  Whether or not TM enables this experience we are NOT sure, I 
 believe at 
  some point it will, but at present no testimony or instruction 
has 
  suggested that it will.
  
  The bubble diagram only works when one is able to *completely* 
  transcend relativity at least once.  All meditators transcend, 
but 
  most,if not all, NOT to transcendental pure consciousness, that 
is 
 very 
  rare and one must be highly advanced!  BillyG.
 
 Thanks for this. However, the problem with such statements as above 
 is that they portray the enlivening or awakening of the chakras as 
a 
 linear, all or nothing process. This is incorrect.
 
 It is true that the third eye must be opened as an element of 
living 
 pure consciousness 24X7, though many other combinations are 
 possible. For example, we can have the experience of the third eye 
 opening, and then closing again, and then reopening as a result of 
 new integration with Being. However during this time we are not to 
 be said fully enlightened, or living Being 24X7. 
 
 24X7 enlightenment comes about as a result of continuously 
culturing 
 the nervous system, and attuning it to Being. It is a gradual 
 process of purification, attained efficiently through the practice 
 of TM and TM-Sidhis. 
 
 Then when we are ready, a phase transition occurs, changing our 
life 
 forever, when we are fully integrated with Being. Spiritual 
 eveloution continues after this point of course, though the 
 transition beween a bound life and a life in eternal freedom is a 
 one time, unmistakable experience.



 I mostly agree Jim..







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Conscious transcending thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye).....

2006-09-04 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  (Warning: Proceed at your own risk!  This information for stout 
 souls 
  only!)
  
  Unless your have *consciously* experienced the holy AUM vibration 
 and 
  passed thru the omnipresent all seeing third eye to spiritual 
light 
 and 
  bliss you *have not transcended*even once! This is the 
secret, 
  until kundalini rises to the 7th chakra, transcending to 
 transcendental 
  pure consciousness is NOT possible!
  
  Whether or not TM enables this experience we are NOT sure, I 
 believe at 
  some point it will, but at present no testimony or instruction 
has 
  suggested that it will.
  
  The bubble diagram only works when one is able to *completely* 
  transcend relativity at least once.  All meditators transcend, 
but 
  most,if not all, NOT to transcendental pure consciousness, that 
is 
 very 
  rare and one must be highly advanced!  BillyG.
 
 
 I seem to be usually at svaadhiSThaana (sva + adhi + sthaana) or 
 below...


Ha, ha...agreed!!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Conscious transcending thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye).....

2006-09-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   (Warning: Proceed at your own risk!  This information for 
stout 
  souls 
   only!)
   
   Unless your have *consciously* experienced the holy AUM 
vibration 
  and 
   passed thru the omnipresent all seeing third eye to spiritual 
  light and 
   bliss you *have not transcended*even once! This is the 
 secret, 
   until kundalini rises to the 7th chakra, transcending to 
  transcendental 
   pure consciousness is NOT possible!
   
   Whether or not TM enables this experience we are NOT sure, I 
  believe at 
   some point it will, but at present no testimony or instruction 
 has 
   suggested that it will.
   
   The bubble diagram only works when one is able to *completely* 
   transcend relativity at least once.  All meditators transcend, 
 but 
   most,if not all, NOT to transcendental pure consciousness, 
that 
 is 
  very 
   rare and one must be highly advanced!  BillyG.
  
  Thanks for this. However, the problem with such statements as 
above 
  is that they portray the enlivening or awakening of the chakras 
as 
 a 
  linear, all or nothing process. This is incorrect.
  
  It is true that the third eye must be opened as an element of 
 living 
  pure consciousness 24X7, though many other combinations are 
  possible. For example, we can have the experience of the third 
eye 
  opening, and then closing again, and then reopening as a result 
of 
  new integration with Being. However during this time we are not 
to 
  be said fully enlightened, or living Being 24X7. 
  
  24X7 enlightenment comes about as a result of continuously 
 culturing 
  the nervous system, and attuning it to Being. It is a gradual 
  process of purification, attained efficiently through the 
practice 
  of TM and TM-Sidhis. 
  
  Then when we are ready, a phase transition occurs, changing our 
 life 
  forever, when we are fully integrated with Being. Spiritual 
  eveloution continues after this point of course, though the 
  transition beween a bound life and a life in eternal freedom is 
a 
  one time, unmistakable experience.
 
 
 
  I mostly agree Jim..

and thanks again for elevating the discussion here!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Conscious transcending thru the Ajna Chakra (third eye).....

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (Warning: Proceed at your own risk!  This information for stout souls 
 only!)
 
 Unless your have *consciously* experienced the holy AUM vibration and 
 passed thru the omnipresent all seeing third eye to spiritual light and 
 bliss you *have not transcended*even once! This is the secret, 
 until kundalini rises to the 7th chakra, transcending to transcendental 
 pure consciousness is NOT possible!
 
 Whether or not TM enables this experience we are NOT sure, I believe at 
 some point it will, but at present no testimony or instruction has 
 suggested that it will.
 
 The bubble diagram only works when one is able to *completely* 
 transcend relativity at least once.  All meditators transcend, but 
 most,if not all, NOT to transcendental pure consciousness, that is very 
 rare and one must be highly advanced!  BillyG.



So you say, BillyG.






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