Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael

2013-02-25 Thread Michael Jackson
I don't take the amount of money or fame someone has as an edict to do what 
they recommend. If I did, I would have Donal Trump as my guru




 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
 

  
Michael, I'm genuinely curious:  how do you reconcile all that you believe 
about TM with the fact that someone as smart and 
successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses it?  I'm thinking 
that for famous people like Lynch and Paul McCartney, Howard Stern and 
Seinfeld, etc. they're just grateful to have found a technique that enables 
them to not only survive but thrive in the very demanding entertainment field.  

PS to Emily, thanks for your reply smile.




 From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:40 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend  wrote:
 

  How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top.
  
 
 
 From NYTimes page:
 Jack Forem Boise, Idaho
 I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the 1970s. 
 I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the process of 
 sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, peer-reviewed 
 scientific research, and the number of compassionate and helpful programs 
 such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's foundation, kept me 
 engaged in research and writing for two years. I have practiced TM since 
 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I must say I was 
 overwhelmed – and I do not use that word lightly – by the extent and depth of 
 the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly improved health, better 
 educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the awakening to higher states of 
 consciousness, to replicated interventions in war-torn areas that resulted in 
 calm and peace, the benefits of TM are thoroughly demonstrated and truly 
 extraordinary. I find it sad that some misinformed and/or
 angry people find it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, 
and is helping, so many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and 
re-think their position.
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all_r=1;

But all of these angry people are TMers for whom it didn't work
or who got fed up with the way the organisation operated after 
working there for years and thus can't really be said to be misinformed.

But their story was somehow neglected from his research?




 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily

2013-02-24 Thread Share Long
Emily, what is it you hate to say?  And why?





 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  
I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and 
the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  




 From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  
Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja 
David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are.







 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote:

 While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match
 between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or
 not,

What Michael and I are actually sparring about is
Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the
case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional
practice.

 the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory
 of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest
 document I know of that describes his system of meditation.

Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't
work (HTTP 404).

 This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the 
 Himalayas'.

And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says:

...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the
mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike',
flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can
do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there
are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of
producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial
to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not
select any word at random. For our practice we select only the
suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the
grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
life.

Right?

 Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a 
 copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain.
 
 http://bit.ly/YQmNKW







 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily

2013-02-24 Thread Emily Reyn
Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated to say it, I 
wouldn't have said it.  Smile.  




 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
 

  
Emily, what is it you hate to say?  And why?







 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  
I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and 
the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  




 From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  
Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja 
David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are.







 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote:

 While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match
 between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or
 not,

What Michael and I are actually sparring about is
Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the
case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional
practice.

 the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory
 of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest
 document I know of that describes his system of meditation.

Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't
work (HTTP 404).

 This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the 
 Himalayas'.

And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says:

...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the
mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike',
flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can
do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there
are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of
producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial
to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not
select any word at random. For our practice we select only the
suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the
grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
life.

Right?

 Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a 
 copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain.
 
 http://bit.ly/YQmNKW









 



[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily

2013-02-24 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Emily, what is it you hate to say?

Leaving Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come
across. I wonder why that part of her post didn't show
up for you.

 And why?

Just a wild guess: Because the TM critics on FFL are
likely to find her observation annoying. I'm sure she'll
correct me if I'm wrong.



 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
  
 I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving
 Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  
 
  From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
  
 
   
 Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja 
 David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
  
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote:
 
  While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match
  between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or
  not,
 
 What Michael and I are actually sparring about is
 Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the
 case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional
 practice.
 
  the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory
  of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest
  document I know of that describes his system of meditation.
 
 Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't
 work (HTTP 404).
 
  This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the 
  Himalayas'.
 
 And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says:
 
 ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the
 mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike',
 flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can
 do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there
 are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of
 producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial
 to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not
 select any word at random. For our practice we select only the
 suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the
 grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
 life.
 
 Right?
 
  Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a 
  copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain.
  
  http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily

2013-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated
 to say it, I wouldn't have said it. Smile.

I'm wrong again. Figure of speech would have been my
second wild guess, though. ;-)



  From: Share Long sharelong60@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
  
 
   
 Emily, what is it you hate to say?  And why?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
  
 
   
 I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi 
 and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  
 
 
 
 
  From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
  
 
   
 Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja 
 David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
  
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote:
 
  While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match
  between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or
  not,
 
 What Michael and I are actually sparring about is
 Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the
 case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional
 practice.
 
  the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory
  of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest
  document I know of that describes his system of meditation.
 
 Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't
 work (HTTP 404).
 
  This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the 
  Himalayas'.
 
 And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says:
 
 ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the
 mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike',
 flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can
 do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there
 are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of
 producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial
 to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not
 select any word at random. For our practice we select only the
 suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the
 grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
 life.
 
 Right?
 
  Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a 
  copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain.
  
  http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily

2013-02-24 Thread Emily Reyn
Or, maybe I said it that way because I was responding to Michael who has been 
critical - I was more acknowledging the benefits that seem apparent from the 
practice itself, separate from the org or guru who spearheaded the movement.  I 
could have saidI will say, that the benefits of TM come across...




 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
 

  
Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated to say it, I 
wouldn't have said it.  Smile.  




 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
 

  
Emily, what is it you hate to say?  And why?







 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  
I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi and 
the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  




 From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  
Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on Raja 
David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there are.







 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote:

 While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match
 between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or
 not,

What Michael and I are actually sparring about is
Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the
case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional
practice.

 the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory
 of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest
 document I know of that describes his system of meditation.

Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't
work (HTTP 404).

 This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the 
 Himalayas'.

And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says:

...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the
mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike',
flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can
do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there
are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of
producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial
to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not
select any word at random. For our practice we select only the
suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the
grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
life.

Right?

 Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a 
 copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain.
 
 http://bit.ly/YQmNKW











 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily

2013-02-24 Thread Emily Reyn
Goodness Judy, that's twice you've been wrong in the recent past.  Smiley face. 
 




 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:42 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:

 Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated
 to say it, I wouldn't have said it. Smile.

I'm wrong again. Figure of speech would have been my
second wild guess, though. ;-)

  From: Share Long 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
  
 
   
 Emily, what is it you hate to say?  And why?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Emily Reyn 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
  
 
   
 I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi 
 and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  
 
 
 
 
  From: Michael Jackson 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
  
 
   
 Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on 
 Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there 
 are.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: authfriend 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
  
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote:
 
  While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match
  between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or
  not,
 
 What Michael and I are actually sparring about is
 Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the
 case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional
 practice.
 
  the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory
  of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest
  document I know of that describes his system of meditation.
 
 Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't
 work (HTTP 404).
 
  This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the 
  Himalayas'.
 
 And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says:
 
 ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the
 mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike',
 flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can
 do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there
 are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of
 producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial
 to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not
 select any word at random. For our practice we select only the
 suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the
 grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
 life.
 
 Right?
 
  Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a 
  copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain.
  
  http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 



 



[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily

2013-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Goodness Judy, that's twice you've been wrong in the recent past.  Smiley 
 face.

Ain't it awful? If I'm to maintain my average, it means
I can't be wrong again for another two years. )-:
 



 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:42 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
  
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
 
  Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated
  to say it, I wouldn't have said it. Smile.
 
 I'm wrong again. Figure of speech would have been my
 second wild guess, though. ;-)
 
   From: Share Long 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
   
  
    
  Emily, what is it you hate to say?  And why?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   From: Emily Reyn 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
   
  
    
  I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving Maharishi 
  and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  
  
  
  
  
   From: Michael Jackson 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
   
  
    
  Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on 
  Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post there 
  are.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   From: authfriend 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
   
  
    
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote:
  
   While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match
   between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or
   not,
  
  What Michael and I are actually sparring about is
  Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the
  case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional
  practice.
  
   the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory
   of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest
   document I know of that describes his system of meditation.
  
  Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't
  work (HTTP 404).
  
   This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the 
   Himalayas'.
  
  And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says:
  
  ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the
  mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike',
  flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can
  do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there
  are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of
  producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial
  to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not
  select any word at random. For our practice we select only the
  suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the
  grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
  life.
  
  Right?
  
   Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a 
   copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain.
   
   http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
 
 
 
  
 
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael

2013-02-24 Thread Share Long
Michael, I'm genuinely curious:  how do you reconcile all that you believe 
about TM with the fact that someone as smart and 
successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses it?  I'm thinking 
that for famous people like Lynch and Paul McCartney, Howard Stern and 
Seinfeld, etc. they're just grateful to have found a technique that enables 
them to not only survive but thrive in the very demanding entertainment field.  

PS to Emily, thanks for your reply smile.




 From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:40 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend  wrote:
 

  How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top.
  
 
 
 From NYTimes page:
 Jack Forem Boise, Idaho
 I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the 1970s. 
 I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the process of 
 sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, peer-reviewed 
 scientific research, and the number of compassionate and helpful programs 
 such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's foundation, kept me 
 engaged in research and writing for two years. I have practiced TM since 
 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I must say I was 
 overwhelmed – and I do not use that word lightly – by the extent and depth of 
 the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly improved health, better 
 educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the awakening to higher states of 
 consciousness, to replicated interventions in war-torn areas that resulted in 
 calm and peace, the benefits of TM are thoroughly demonstrated and truly 
 extraordinary. I find it sad that some misinformed and/or
 angry people find it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, 
and is helping, so many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and 
re-think their position.
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all_r=1;

But all of these angry people are TMers for whom it didn't work
or who got fed up with the way the organisation operated after 
working there for years and thus can't really be said to be misinformed.

But their story was somehow neglected from his research?


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael

2013-02-24 Thread Emily Reyn
Just for the record, as a comment.  Dr. Oz bugs the crap out of me.  From the 
beginning, I've never made it through a single show of his.  




 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael
 

  
Michael, I'm genuinely curious:  how do you reconcile all that you believe 
about TM with the fact that someone as smart and 
successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses it?  I'm thinking 
that for famous people like Lynch and Paul McCartney, Howard Stern and 
Seinfeld, etc. they're just grateful to have found a technique that enables 
them to not only survive but thrive in the very demanding entertainment field.  


PS to Emily, thanks for your reply smile.





 From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:40 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend  wrote:
 

  How about Jack Forem? He just got added at the top.
  
 
 
 From NYTimes page:
 Jack Forem Boise, Idaho
 I recently released an updated version of a book on TM written in the 
 1970s. I thought the update would take me a couple of months, but the 
 process of sorting through the vast amount of published, top-quality, 
 peer-reviewed scientific research, and the number of compassionate and 
 helpful programs such as those cited in the article on David Lynch's 
 foundation, kept me engaged in research and writing for two years. I have 
 practiced TM since 1967, taught it, and helped to train TM teachers. Yet I 
 must say I was overwhelmed – and I do not use that word lightly – by the 
 extent and depth of the benefits I uncovered in my research. From greatly 
 improved health, better educational outcomes, stress reduction, and the 
 awakening to higher states of consciousness, to replicated interventions in 
 war-torn areas that resulted in calm and peace, the benefits of TM are 
 thoroughly demonstrated and truly extraordinary. I find it sad that some 
 misinformed and/or
 angry people find it necessary to attack such a good thing, that has helped, 
and is helping, so many. I would urge them to investigate more deeply and 
re-think their position.
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/david-lynch-transcendental-meditation.html?pagewanted=all_r=1;

But all of these angry people are TMers for whom it didn't work
or who got fed up with the way the organisation operated after 
working there for years and thus can't really be said to be misinformed.

But their story was somehow neglected from his research?




 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily

2013-02-24 Thread Emily Reyn
Ahhh ha ha ha.  Well, not and admit it anyway.  




 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:

 Goodness Judy, that's twice you've been wrong in the recent past.  Smiley 
 face.

Ain't it awful? If I'm to maintain my average, it means
I can't be wrong again for another two years. )-:
 

 
  From: authfriend 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:42 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
  
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
 
  Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated
  to say it, I wouldn't have said it. Smile.
 
 I'm wrong again. Figure of speech would have been my
 second wild guess, though. ;-)
 
   From: Share Long 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
   
  
    
  Emily, what is it you hate to say?  And why?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   From: Emily Reyn 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
   
  
    
  I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving 
  Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  
  
  
  
  
   From: Michael Jackson 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
   
  
    
  Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on 
  Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post 
  there are.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   From: authfriend 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back
   
  
    
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote:
  
   While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match
   between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or
   not,
  
  What Michael and I are actually sparring about is
  Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the
  case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional
  practice.
  
   the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory
   of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest
   document I know of that describes his system of meditation.
  
  Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't
  work (HTTP 404).
  
   This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the 
   Himalayas'.
  
  And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says:
  
  ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the
  mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike',
  flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can
  do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there
  are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of
  producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial
  to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not
  select any word at random. For our practice we select only the
  suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the
  grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
  life.
  
  Right?
  
   Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a 
   copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain.
   
   http://bit.ly/YQmNKW
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
 
 
 
  
 
 



 



[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael

2013-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all
 that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as smart
 and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM and endorses
 it?

Oz has a large and enthusiastic following, but he's come
in for some very serious criticism lately for touting
unproven therapies. I wouldn't use him as a poster boy
for TM.

 I'm thinking that for famous people like Lynch and Paul
 McCartney, Howard Stern and Seinfeld, etc. they're just
 grateful to have found a technique that enables them to
 not only survive but thrive in the very demanding
 entertainment field.




[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael

2013-02-24 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all 
 that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as 
 smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM 
 and endorses it? 

How do you reconcile being 64 years old and still
being idiotic enough to believe that something is
good because someone famous does it?





[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily and Michael

2013-02-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Michael, I'm genuinely curious: how do you reconcile all 
  that you believe about TM with the fact that someone as 
  smart and successful and healthy as Dr. Oz practices TM 
  and endorses it? 
 
 How do you reconcile being 64 years old and still
 being idiotic enough to believe that something is
 good because someone famous does it?

This is odd; Barry read smart and successful and healthy
and thought it said famous.




[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily

2013-02-24 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  Goodness Judy, that's twice you've been wrong in the recent past.  Smiley 
  face.
 
 Ain't it awful? If I'm to maintain my average, it means
 I can't be wrong again for another two years. )-:

Oh, but at least you admit it when you are wrong. This is a long way from what 
lots of others are capable of. Being wrong and admitting it makes you 
endearingly human. (Barry?)
  
 
 
 
  
   From: authfriend authfriend@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:42 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily
   
  
    
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
  
   Just a figure of speech, conversational, if I really hated
   to say it, I wouldn't have said it. Smile.
  
  I'm wrong again. Figure of speech would have been my
  second wild guess, though. ;-)
  
From: Share Long 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:24 AM
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back to Emily

   
     
   Emily, what is it you hate to say?  And why?
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
From: Emily Reyn 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:01 PM
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back

   
     
   I read it and the comments last night; hate to say, but leaving 
   Maharishi and the TMO out, benefits from TM come across.  
   
   
   
   
From: Michael Jackson 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:51 AM
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back

   
     
   Oh by the way, why not go visit the New York Times magazine article on 
   Raja David and his band of con artists again and see how many post 
   there are.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
From: authfriend 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back

   
     
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote:
   
While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match
between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or
not,
   
   What Michael and I are actually sparring about is
   Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the
   case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional
   practice.
   
the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory
of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest
document I know of that describes his system of meditation.
   
   Actually the link doesn't point to anything. It doesn't
   work (HTTP 404).
   
This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the 
Himalayas'.
   
   And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says:
   
   ...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the
   mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike',
   flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can
   do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there
   are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of
   producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial
   to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not
   select any word at random. For our practice we select only the
   suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the
   grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
   life.
   
   Right?
   
Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a 
copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain.

http://bit.ly/YQmNKW