[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > You conceptually owe me twenty bucks. I'm > > > > waiting > > > > > > > > > Hey, no fair, I *definitely* conceptually paid > > you > > > > that twenty, with > > > > another conceptual ten in interest... > > > > > > nO, MY CONCEPTS TELL ME THAT WAS A DELUSION. > > > > > well...delusionally, *you* owe *me* twenty > > bucks...no, make that > > twenty thousand...francs...on Mars...c'mon, pay up! > > 10,000,000 Swiss Francs transferred to your account as > we speak! Awesome! I'm imagining feeling richer already! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The bondage to a spiritual path, while > > > > necessary, > > > > > > is > > > > > > > one of the deepest attachments there is. > > That > > > > is > > > > > > why > > > > > > > all sadhanas must eventually destroy > > > > themselves in > > > > > > > Realization. God help the person who > > spends > > > > > > decades on > > > > > > > a spiritual path with no liberation > > because > > > > what > > > > > > you > > > > > > > get are mood-making fanatics who are more > > > > invested > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the conceptual dogma of Realization than > > > > actual > > > > > > > Realization. They confound the concept > > with > > > > the > > > > > > > experience." > > > > > > > --Mushi Mu, Third Zen Patriarch (from his > > > > classic > > > > > > > "What is My True Dog Nature, Bantam Book, > > > > 1987) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being conceptually Realized is like > > conceptually > > > > > > going to work and > > > > > > conceptually getting paid. > > > > > > > > > > You conceptually owe me twenty bucks. I'm > > > > waiting > > > > > > > > > Hey, no fair, I *definitely* conceptually paid > > you > > > > that twenty, with > > > > another conceptual ten in interest... > > > > > > nO, MY CONCEPTS TELL ME THAT WAS A DELUSION. > > > > > well...delusionally, *you* owe *me* twenty > > bucks...no, make that > > twenty thousand...francs...on Mars...c'mon, pay up! > > 10,000,000 Swiss Francs transferred to your account as > we speak! > I believe if you're going to have the proper conceptual vastu you must transfer 10,000,000 Raams ... ;-) JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > "The bondage to a spiritual path, while > > > necessary, > > > > > is > > > > > > one of the deepest attachments there is. > That > > > is > > > > > why > > > > > > all sadhanas must eventually destroy > > > themselves in > > > > > > Realization. God help the person who > spends > > > > > decades on > > > > > > a spiritual path with no liberation > because > > > what > > > > > you > > > > > > get are mood-making fanatics who are more > > > invested > > > > > in > > > > > > the conceptual dogma of Realization than > > > actual > > > > > > Realization. They confound the concept > with > > > the > > > > > > experience." > > > > > > --Mushi Mu, Third Zen Patriarch (from his > > > classic > > > > > > "What is My True Dog Nature, Bantam Book, > > > 1987) > > > > > > > > > > > Being conceptually Realized is like > conceptually > > > > > going to work and > > > > > conceptually getting paid. > > > > > > > > You conceptually owe me twenty bucks. I'm > > > waiting > > > > > > > Hey, no fair, I *definitely* conceptually paid > you > > > that twenty, with > > > another conceptual ten in interest... > > > > nO, MY CONCEPTS TELL ME THAT WAS A DELUSION. > > > well...delusionally, *you* owe *me* twenty > bucks...no, make that > twenty thousand...francs...on Mars...c'mon, pay up! 10,000,000 Swiss Francs transferred to your account as we speak! > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "The bondage to a spiritual path, while > > necessary, > > > > is > > > > > one of the deepest attachments there is. That > > is > > > > why > > > > > all sadhanas must eventually destroy > > themselves in > > > > > Realization. God help the person who spends > > > > decades on > > > > > a spiritual path with no liberation because > > what > > > > you > > > > > get are mood-making fanatics who are more > > invested > > > > in > > > > > the conceptual dogma of Realization than > > actual > > > > > Realization. They confound the concept with > > the > > > > > experience." > > > > > --Mushi Mu, Third Zen Patriarch (from his > > classic > > > > > "What is My True Dog Nature, Bantam Book, > > 1987) > > > > > > > > > Being conceptually Realized is like conceptually > > > > going to work and > > > > conceptually getting paid. > > > > > > You conceptually owe me twenty bucks. I'm > > waiting > > > > > Hey, no fair, I *definitely* conceptually paid you > > that twenty, with > > another conceptual ten in interest... > > nO, MY CONCEPTS TELL ME THAT WAS A DELUSION. > well...delusionally, *you* owe *me* twenty bucks...no, make that twenty thousand...francs...on Mars...c'mon, pay up! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > "The bondage to a spiritual path, while > necessary, > > > is > > > > one of the deepest attachments there is. That > is > > > why > > > > all sadhanas must eventually destroy > themselves in > > > > Realization. God help the person who spends > > > decades on > > > > a spiritual path with no liberation because > what > > > you > > > > get are mood-making fanatics who are more > invested > > > in > > > > the conceptual dogma of Realization than > actual > > > > Realization. They confound the concept with > the > > > > experience." > > > > --Mushi Mu, Third Zen Patriarch (from his > classic > > > > "What is My True Dog Nature, Bantam Book, > 1987) > > > > > > > Being conceptually Realized is like conceptually > > > going to work and > > > conceptually getting paid. > > > > You conceptually owe me twenty bucks. I'm > waiting > > > Hey, no fair, I *definitely* conceptually paid you > that twenty, with > another conceptual ten in interest... nO, MY CONCEPTS TELL ME THAT WAS A DELUSION. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > wrote: > > > > > > "The bondage to a spiritual path, while necessary, > > is > > > one of the deepest attachments there is. That is > > why > > > all sadhanas must eventually destroy themselves in > > > Realization. God help the person who spends > > decades on > > > a spiritual path with no liberation because what > > you > > > get are mood-making fanatics who are more invested > > in > > > the conceptual dogma of Realization than actual > > > Realization. They confound the concept with the > > > experience." > > > --Mushi Mu, Third Zen Patriarch (from his classic > > > "What is My True Dog Nature, Bantam Book, 1987) > > > > > Being conceptually Realized is like conceptually > > going to work and > > conceptually getting paid. > > You conceptually owe me twenty bucks. I'm waiting > Hey, no fair, I *definitely* conceptually paid you that twenty, with another conceptual ten in interest... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "The bondage to a spiritual path, while necessary, > is > > one of the deepest attachments there is. That is > why > > all sadhanas must eventually destroy themselves in > > Realization. God help the person who spends > decades on > > a spiritual path with no liberation because what > you > > get are mood-making fanatics who are more invested > in > > the conceptual dogma of Realization than actual > > Realization. They confound the concept with the > > experience." > > --Mushi Mu, Third Zen Patriarch (from his classic > > "What is My True Dog Nature, Bantam Book, 1987) > > > Being conceptually Realized is like conceptually > going to work and > conceptually getting paid. You conceptually owe me twenty bucks. I'm waiting > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > Of course one will know that they are making progress towards > > enlightenment when they stop obsessing over it (which many seem to do here). > > > > - Bhairitu > > Uh, methinks the topic here is 'half-way up the mountain' syndrome, not so much the Big E. > > Unless "E" stands for Ego. > > Big Ego. > > Maha-ego. > Kali-Yugo. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course one will know that they are making progress towards > enlightenment when they stop obsessing over it (which many seem to do here). > > - Bhairitu Uh, methinks the topic here is 'half-way up the mountain' syndrome, not so much the Big E. Unless "E" stands for Ego. Big Ego. Maha-ego. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course one will know that they are making progress towards > enlightenment when they stop obsessing over it (which many seem to do here). > > - Bhairitu > Oh...you must be looking for that *other* group, the Fairfield Lifers, seekers way too *dignified* to openly discuss enlightenment...gentlemen's agreement and all that, old chap. wink, wink, nudge, nudge... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > "The bondage to a spiritual path, while necessary, is > > one of the deepest attachments there is. That is why > > all sadhanas must eventually destroy themselves in > > Realization. God help the person who spends decades on > > a spiritual path with no liberation because what you > > get are mood-making fanatics who are more invested in > > the conceptual dogma of Realization than actual > > Realization. They confound the concept with the > > experience." > > --Mushi Mu, Third Zen Patriarch (from his classic > > "What is My True Dog Nature, Bantam Book, 1987) > > Great quote, although the attribution appears > to be a joke. :-) Or maybe somebody just got the title wrong. I did a search on Amazon for "What Is My True Dog Nature" and came up with a bunch of similar titles that sound like possibilities for the real one: What Is My Dog Thinking: The Essential Guide to Understanding Pet Behavior My Lead Dog Was a Lesbian: Mushing Across Alaska in the Iditarod What the Dogs Have Taught Me: And Other Amazing Things I've Learned What the Dog Did: Tales from a Formerly Reluctant Dog Owner The Dog Ate My Homework: Personal Responsibility-- How We Avoid It and What to Do About It Dog Is My Co-Pilot: Great Writers on the World's Oldest Friendship I Am Puppy Hear Me Yap: The Ages of Dog My Therapist's Dog: Lessons in Unconditional Love Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > "The bondage to a spiritual path, while necessary, is > > one of the deepest attachments there is. That is why > > all sadhanas must eventually destroy themselves in > > Realization. God help the person who spends decades on > > a spiritual path with no liberation because what you > > get are mood-making fanatics who are more invested in > > the conceptual dogma of Realization than actual > > Realization. They confound the concept with the > > experience." > > --Mushi Mu, Third Zen Patriarch (from his classic > > "What is My True Dog Nature, Bantam Book, 1987) > > Being conceptually Realized is like... > conceptually getting paid. I was going to say essentially the same thing, changing only one letter in the last word. :-) In other words, it has the same relationship to realization that looking at porn has to sex. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The bondage to a spiritual path, while necessary, is > one of the deepest attachments there is. That is why > all sadhanas must eventually destroy themselves in > Realization. God help the person who spends decades on > a spiritual path with no liberation because what you > get are mood-making fanatics who are more invested in > the conceptual dogma of Realization than actual > Realization. They confound the concept with the > experience." > --Mushi Mu, Third Zen Patriarch (from his classic > "What is My True Dog Nature, Bantam Book, 1987) > Being conceptually Realized is like conceptually going to work and conceptually getting paid. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A Quote to Wake Up To > > "Many mistakenly feel relieved from the burden of responsibility for > their own behaviour because of erroneous conclusions drawn from their > spiritual experiences of no-separation. Realising that "everything is > the self," they concluded that therefore there was nothing and nobody > to be responsible for. Yeah. this is spoken about early on in Mr. M's commentary on the Gita. I don't recall the verse and don't have the book handy, but he basically says that the awakened should be careful about talking about their perspective regarding being the non-doer with regard to action, because the ignorant will hear it and conclude just as this guy speaks about, that there is no need for personal responsibility. Anyway, everyone knows deep down when they're faking it. Delusion only gets a person so far. And it doesn't feel good, either. Just another ego trip. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The bondage to a spiritual path, while necessary, is > one of the deepest attachments there is. That is why > all sadhanas must eventually destroy themselves in > Realization. God help the person who spends decades on > a spiritual path with no liberation because what you > get are mood-making fanatics who are more invested in > the conceptual dogma of Realization than actual > Realization. They confound the concept with the > experience." > --Mushi Mu, Third Zen Patriarch (from his classic > "What is My True Dog Nature, Bantam Book, 1987) Great quote, although the attribution appears to be a joke. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
One does wonder if he *is* speaking from his own experience or just projecting. Either way he hit the nail on his head (no pun intended). On Mar 3, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Peter wrote: > It is a little ironic that Mr. cohen would speak this > way about responsibility! Maybe he should look in the > mirror? Hmmm? > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Yeah, I get real hoot out of Andrew. >> >> But I liked the quote anyways. >> >> On Mar 3, 2006, at 9:25 AM, t3rinity wrote: >> >> >>> Check out 'Enlightenment Blues' >>> http://tinyurl.com/4ttdf >>> So much about responsibility! >>> >> >> >> > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope > and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > > ~-> > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
It is a little ironic that Mr. cohen would speak this way about responsibility! Maybe he should look in the mirror? Hmmm? --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I get real hoot out of Andrew. > > But I liked the quote anyways. > > On Mar 3, 2006, at 9:25 AM, t3rinity wrote: > > > Check out 'Enlightenment Blues' > > http://tinyurl.com/4ttdf > > So much about responsibility! > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
Yeah, I get real hoot out of Andrew. But I liked the quote anyways.On Mar 3, 2006, at 9:25 AM, t3rinity wrote:Check out 'Enlightenment Blues' http://tinyurl.com/4ttdf So much about responsibility! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
Check out 'Enlightenment Blues' http://tinyurl.com/4ttdf So much about responsibility! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A Quote to Wake Up To > > "Many mistakenly feel relieved from the burden of responsibility for > their own behaviour because of erroneous conclusions drawn from their > spiritual experiences of no-separation. Realising that "everything is > the self," they concluded that therefore there was nothing and nobody > to be responsible for. In this way of thinking, responsibility > implies duality, and any notion of responsibility is therefore seen > to be an expression of ignorance. In this view almost any form of > conduct becomes acceptable-when one proponent was asked why he > habitually acted rudely and with dishonesty, he said "Oh, that's not > real, that's just my personality." Another student said, "Nothing > matters because it's all Self." Others have answered with incredulity > when asked about responsibility for behaviour, "How can there be > responsibility in freedom? Who's responsible?" ..Many people do have > profound experiences when exposed to such teachings, but the > teachings usually have the effect of enslaving a person to a deluded > view that they are completely free simply because they have had a > glimpse of the fact that there never could have been a separate > entity who could be bound in the first place. It is at this point the > Advaita view, as it is frequently proclaimed these days, becomes > patently ridiculous. Such a view can make a person extremely > confident, because any difficulty that one is faced with, from within > or without, can be "Advaited" by saying that it is all unreal or all > the Self anyway .. However, this confidence becomes a form of > arrogance, a form of self-delusion, when it is used to avoid one's > own difficulties or areas of avoidance in order to obliterate the > uncomfortable, dualistic facts of one's own situation. The Advaita > view can paralyse a person and prevent him or her from sober self- > introspection because to consider one's "self" is to entertain > illusion, is to deny one's own realisation, is to embrace the falsity > of dualism. In this way, the opportunity to truly be free to face any > difficulty or imperfections in one's own character is destroyed. Any > desire to change anything, in this view, is seen to be coming from > the ego, from ignorance, because change implies separation and only > ego could want change." > > -Andrew Cohen > > Unless a person is perfectly, fully and finally Liberated by these > (Advaita) teachings (a very rare event) their lives will be to some > extent an expression of duality and an expression of ignorance. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
