[FairfieldLife] RE: Durga mantra
Powerful ! Thanks for posting
[FairfieldLife] RE: Durga mantra
Very peaceful ! Thanks for posting
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga
Exactly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Nice, thanks for posting this. I suppose what you describe will have paralells to the other senses also. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: There is a third eye portal, through which the celestial worlds can be glimpsed. Like any other activity, it takes attention if nothing more (35 yr. TM/13 yr. TMSP), to see the middle sight and, pop, in you go! The ablity to have celestial perception must operate at a higher frequency than physical sight because it can be seen with the eyes open, almost as an overlay of physical sight, although not really an overlay because there is no image conflict. I see what I shift my attention to. Not hallucinations, but rather as if a middle sight opens up between what is obviously seen, and what is simply thought or imagined. This space is in between those two. A higher frequency sight, through which can be seen the angels that we draw near, and many, many other wonders. The language sounds metaphysical and arcane, but the experience is one that is very familiar when it occurs. Very natural and familiar.:-) That is 50 according to the list bot. See you Saturday! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: I did not mean to go so deeply into intention, making it seem less wonderful than it is, although *any* visit takes a relationship, whether it is from my Aunt or Durga.:-) That's right :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga
Nice, thanks for posting this. I suppose what you describe will have paralells to the other senses also. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: There is a third eye portal, through which the celestial worlds can be glimpsed. Like any other activity, it takes attention if nothing more (35 yr. TM/13 yr. TMSP), to see the middle sight and, pop, in you go! The ablity to have celestial perception must operate at a higher frequency than physical sight because it can be seen with the eyes open, almost as an overlay of physical sight, although not really an overlay because there is no image conflict. I see what I shift my attention to. Not hallucinations, but rather as if a middle sight opens up between what is obviously seen, and what is simply thought or imagined. This space is in between those two. A higher frequency sight, through which can be seen the angels that we draw near, and many, many other wonders. The language sounds metaphysical and arcane, but the experience is one that is very familiar when it occurs. Very natural and familiar.:-) That is 50 according to the list bot. See you Saturday! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: I did not mean to go so deeply into intention, making it seem less wonderful than it is, although *any* visit takes a relationship, whether it is from my Aunt or Durga.:-) That's right :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: I was working on a song to post for 2012, but decided this one from 2009 was a better choice for now. Its called Durga (5:08): http://www.box.com/s/fzymy90g8bfs6c6q491k Happy New Year Everyone!!! - Global chill time - :-) Beautiful, very rich ! BTW, have you seen/heard Her in real time ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: I was working on a song to post for 2012, but decided this one from 2009 was a better choice for now. Its called Durga (5:08): http://www.box.com/s/fzymy90g8bfs6c6q491k Happy New Year Everyone!!! - Global chill time - :-) Beautiful, very rich ! BTW, have you seen/heard Her in real time ? Thank you! Just like the saying says, whatever you put your attention on grows, I have not had a practical reason to put my attention on Durga to the point of celestial manifestation. That is the only interest I have in such phenomena, and how they occur naturally for me. Otherwise I could get lost looking up and cognizing Divine Beings, and describing them - It is certainly a very rich field for exploration - though I really have too much to do on this plane to consider taking up such a pursuit. After the body drops, not anytime soon, I can explore such things to my heart's content!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: I was working on a song to post for 2012, but decided this one from 2009 was a better choice for now. Its called Durga (5:08): http://www.box.com/s/fzymy90g8bfs6c6q491k Happy New Year Everyone!!! - Global chill time - :-) Beautiful, very rich ! BTW, have you seen/heard Her in real time ? Thank you! Just like the saying says, whatever you put your attention on grows, I have not had a practical reason to put my attention on Durga to the point of celestial manifestation. That is the only interest I have in such phenomena, and how they occur naturally for me. Otherwise I could get lost looking up and cognizing Divine Beings, and describing them - It is certainly a very rich field for exploration - though I really have too much to do on this plane to consider taking up such a pursuit. After the body drops, not anytime soon, I can explore such things to my heart's content! I see your active point. My question was if you had seen/heard Her. She could choose to do so without any active participation on your part. But I guess you answered my question. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga
I did not mean to go so deeply into intention, making it seem less wonderful than it is, although *any* visit takes a relationship, whether it is from my Aunt or Durga.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: I was working on a song to post for 2012, but decided this one from 2009 was a better choice for now. Its called Durga (5:08): http://www.box.com/s/fzymy90g8bfs6c6q491k Happy New Year Everyone!!! - Global chill time - :-) Beautiful, very rich ! BTW, have you seen/heard Her in real time ? Thank you! Just like the saying says, whatever you put your attention on grows, I have not had a practical reason to put my attention on Durga to the point of celestial manifestation. That is the only interest I have in such phenomena, and how they occur naturally for me. Otherwise I could get lost looking up and cognizing Divine Beings, and describing them - It is certainly a very rich field for exploration - though I really have too much to do on this plane to consider taking up such a pursuit. After the body drops, not anytime soon, I can explore such things to my heart's content! I see your active point. My question was if you had seen/heard Her. She could choose to do so without any active participation on your part. But I guess you answered my question. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: I did not mean to go so deeply into intention, making it seem less wonderful than it is, although *any* visit takes a relationship, whether it is from my Aunt or Durga.:-) That's right :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga
There is a third eye portal, through which the celestial worlds can be glimpsed. Like any other activity, it takes attention if nothing more (35 yr. TM/13 yr. TMSP), to see the middle sight and, pop, in you go! The ablity to have celestial perception must operate at a higher frequency than physical sight because it can be seen with the eyes open, almost as an overlay of physical sight, although not really an overlay because there is no image conflict. I see what I shift my attention to. Not hallucinations, but rather as if a middle sight opens up between what is obviously seen, and what is simply thought or imagined. This space is in between those two. A higher frequency sight, through which can be seen the angels that we draw near, and many, many other wonders. The language sounds metaphysical and arcane, but the experience is one that is very familiar when it occurs. Very natural and familiar.:-) That is 50 according to the list bot. See you Saturday! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: I did not mean to go so deeply into intention, making it seem less wonderful than it is, although *any* visit takes a relationship, whether it is from my Aunt or Durga.:-) That's right :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga
http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/453/301/453301df-2802-426b-a9b0-6ca287fe56a8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: There is a third eye portal, through which the celestial worlds can be glimpsed. Like any other activity, it takes attention if nothing more (35 yr. TM/13 yr. TMSP), to see the middle sight and, pop, in you go! The ablity to have celestial perception must operate at a higher frequency than physical sight because it can be seen with the eyes open, almost as an overlay of physical sight, although not really an overlay because there is no image conflict. I see what I shift my attention to. Not hallucinations, but rather as if a middle sight opens up between what is obviously seen, and what is simply thought or imagined. This space is in between those two. A higher frequency sight, through which can be seen the angels that we draw near, and many, many other wonders. The language sounds metaphysical and arcane, but the experience is one that is very familiar when it occurs. Very natural and familiar.:-) That is 50 according to the list bot. See you Saturday! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: I did not mean to go so deeply into intention, making it seem less wonderful than it is, although *any* visit takes a relationship, whether it is from my Aunt or Durga.:-) That's right :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga Opens Up a Can of WhoopAss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Curtis and all the rational atheists out there, perhaps you overlooked this historical video in your atheistic research. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5LtKh31m0o As is painfully obvious, there are no special effects that can be discerned in examining this video recorded on a wandering ascetic's cell phone. Perfect, Marek. :-) And I laughed my way through the whole thing, and it lightened my day, so many thanks to you, and to the spirit in which it was shared. But now a serious comment. This is almost *exactly* the level at which many -- if not most -- of the arguments for the existence of (and the power of) God or gods or goddesses is presented. It's the level of emotionality and adventure stories. Same with many -- if not most -- of the stories in the Old Testament, and many of the other world's scriptures. If you're a kid, these things probably make an impression. When you get older, that impres- sion lingers, and so do the beliefs you formed watching the movies or listening to similar stories that were read to you when you were a kid. But to someone who isn't from that culture, or who never bought into believing in God or gods and goddesses, it's just Bad Indian Cinema. Ever wonder why so many people who believe in God find it difficult to even *conceive* of there not being a God, and that He/She/It/Them is/are all-powerful? Watch this film clip and look at what they grew up on, and the lessons presented onscreen (and in the scripture this is taken from) about what happens to those who think that way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga Opens Up a Can of WhoopAss
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: To Curtis and all the rational atheists out there, perhaps you overlooked this historical video in your atheistic research. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5LtKh31m0o As is painfully obvious, there are no special effects that can be discerned in examining this video recorded on a wandering ascetic's cell phone. Perfect, Marek. :-) And I laughed my way through the whole thing, and it lightened my day, so many thanks to you, and to the spirit in which it was shared. But now a serious comment. This is almost *exactly* the level at which many -- if not most -- of the arguments for the existence of (and the power of) God or gods or goddesses is presented. It's the level of emotionality and adventure stories. Same with many -- if not most -- of the stories in the Old Testament, and many of the other world's scriptures. If you're a kid, these things probably make an impression. When you get older, that impres- sion lingers, and so do the beliefs you formed watching the movies or listening to similar stories that were read to you when you were a kid. But to someone who isn't from that culture, or who never bought into believing in God or gods and goddesses, it's just Bad Indian Cinema. Ever wonder why so many people who believe in God find it difficult to even *conceive* of there not being a God, and that He/She/It/Them is/are all-powerful? Watch this film clip and look at what they grew up on, and the lessons presented onscreen (and in the scripture this is taken from) about what happens to those who think that way. **end** Turq, glad you liked it. I wouldn't agree with you that most (or even many) arguments for the existence of God or Gods are based on emotionality and adventure stories, even if most scriptures at the heart of religions have these type of mythologies. Or at least, really considered arguments as opposed to simple subscription to the religion. I do agree, though, that most people haven't thought about, and don't ever really consider these things at all other than go along with whatever tradition in which they were raised. What's funny to me is the fact that even watching such a hopelessly funny clip as this one still evokes some interiority in me and it's a real high I can't deny. We've both written about the whole issue of 'attention' and one of the things I enjoy about Hinduism is just how much information is tightly packed into the images and stories of the Gods and Goddesses. At first, for me, it was all about deconstructing what 'this' meant and what 'that' meant, two arms or four arms, eight arms or ten or a thousand, this weapon, that skin color, victorious over these demons or those asuras, etc. Over time the rich texture of all those individualized, personalized bits and pieces of information created (for me, again) a kind of wonderful insight into my own consciousness (or *this* consciousness, the only one I know). All this stuff does a real number on consciousness (IMO) and the more you expose consciousness/attention to them then the more real not necessarily *they* become, but whatever it is that they are indicators of seems to grow in awareness. True also, I feel, with images of Buddha or Christ, etc.; I just seem to resonate with the Hindu vectors more. But I'd venture that a lot of religion is about enlivening attention through the use of certain images and constructs. Over time, perhaps, the specific images or one religion morph into others but there's some underlying natural push towards something bigger/greater than the individual that religion is one expression of. Marek
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga Opens Up a Can of WhoopAss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turq, glad you liked it. I wouldn't agree with you that most (or even many) arguments for the existence of God or Gods are based on emotionality and adventure stories, even if most scriptures at the heart of religions have these type of mythologies. Or at least, really considered arguments as opposed to simple subscription to the religion. I do agree, though, that most people haven't thought about, and don't ever really consider these things at all other than go along with whatever tradition in which they were raised. Ok, no problemo. I will temper my hyperbole-for- effect and agree that many have just never considered anything other than the idea they were imprinted with early in youth. What's funny to me is the fact that even watching such a hopelessly funny clip as this one still evokes some interiority in me and it's a real high I can't deny. We've both written about the whole issue of 'attention' and one of the things I enjoy about Hinduism is just how much information is tightly packed into the images and stories of the Gods and Goddesses. At first, for me, it was all about deconstructing what 'this' meant and what 'that' meant, two arms or four arms, eight arms or ten or a thousand, this weapon, that skin color, victorious over these demons or those asuras, etc. Over time the rich texture of all those individualized, personalized bits and pieces of information created (for me, again) a kind of wonderful insight into my own consciousness (or *this* consciousness, the only one I know). Cool. Again, no problemo. I watch horror movies, and get spiritually inspired by *them*. Go figure. All this stuff does a real number on consciousness (IMO) and the more you expose consciousness/attention to them then the more real not necessarily *they* become, but whatever it is that they are indicators of seems to grow in awareness. I agree. The more fingers we see pointing to the moon, the more feeling we have for the moon, even though the only thing we've been focusing our attention on is a bunch of fingers. True also, I feel, with images of Buddha or Christ, etc.; I just seem to resonate with the Hindu vectors more. No problemo. I never did. But I'd venture that a lot of religion is about enlivening attention through the use of certain images and constructs. I agree. And if the religion in question, and its choice of symbology or metaphor inspires even one person and aims them in the direction of the moon, Cool, say I. Over time, perhaps, the specific images or one religion morph into others but there's some underlying natural push towards something bigger/greater than the individual that religion is one expression of. I think that all I'm trying to say is that the notion that there is something bigger/greater than the indiv- idual lessens to some extent the eternality and infinite nature of the individual. I am infinite. Whatever that I chooses to believe it is at any given point in time, or even any point outside of time, it's still infinite. As so few seem to understand here, I'm really not expressing truths, or claiming that my view of things is better or more accurate or more evolved than theirs. It's just my view. My view is that the world I see around me is *enough* to inspire me, and to lift me to heights of subjec- tive ecstasy and bliss. I can be transported to what Maharishi calls GC by the sight of a lonely guy look- ing for Love Or Something Like It on the streets of Sitges at 3:00 AM. I walk on, and pass the cathedral on the hill overlooking the ocean, and find myself more transported to realms of bliss and ecstasy by the sound of the waves below me than by the idea of the cathedral behind me. It's *not* that I'm ragging on traditional metaphors for eternality and the infinite. I'm suggesting that there are more of them than most people are aware of.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga Opens Up a Can of WhoopAss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Curtis and all the rational atheists out there, perhaps you overlooked this historical video in your atheistic research. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5LtKh31m0o As is painfully obvious, there are no special effects that can be discerned in examining this video recorded on a wandering ascetic's cell phone. Marek, at first I felt as though I had to re-think my whole position given the level of absolute proof that this film delivers. Then I thought in one scene that the movement seemed a little artificial. I have to view this a few more times but I have to still place this evidence in the I don't know pile. Sorry to be so overly skeptical about this film. It almost seemed to me as if this youtube was the real God and the video was just a part of himself. I used to watch an Indian cable show like this every Saturday morning. Better than Hong Kong Kung Fu flicks! It has a real Davy and Goliath vibe, remember that claymation cartoon? Thanks for posting it!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga Opens Up a Can of WhoopAss
Agreed. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Turq, glad you liked it. I wouldn't agree with you that most (or even many) arguments for the existence of God or Gods are based on emotionality and adventure stories, even if most scriptures at the heart of religions have these type of mythologies. Or at least, really considered arguments as opposed to simple subscription to the religion. I do agree, though, that most people haven't thought about, and don't ever really consider these things at all other than go along with whatever tradition in which they were raised. Ok, no problemo. I will temper my hyperbole-for- effect and agree that many have just never considered anything other than the idea they were imprinted with early in youth. What's funny to me is the fact that even watching such a hopelessly funny clip as this one still evokes some interiority in me and it's a real high I can't deny. We've both written about the whole issue of 'attention' and one of the things I enjoy about Hinduism is just how much information is tightly packed into the images and stories of the Gods and Goddesses. At first, for me, it was all about deconstructing what 'this' meant and what 'that' meant, two arms or four arms, eight arms or ten or a thousand, this weapon, that skin color, victorious over these demons or those asuras, etc. Over time the rich texture of all those individualized, personalized bits and pieces of information created (for me, again) a kind of wonderful insight into my own consciousness (or *this* consciousness, the only one I know). Cool. Again, no problemo. I watch horror movies, and get spiritually inspired by *them*. Go figure. All this stuff does a real number on consciousness (IMO) and the more you expose consciousness/attention to them then the more real not necessarily *they* become, but whatever it is that they are indicators of seems to grow in awareness. I agree. The more fingers we see pointing to the moon, the more feeling we have for the moon, even though the only thing we've been focusing our attention on is a bunch of fingers. True also, I feel, with images of Buddha or Christ, etc.; I just seem to resonate with the Hindu vectors more. No problemo. I never did. But I'd venture that a lot of religion is about enlivening attention through the use of certain images and constructs. I agree. And if the religion in question, and its choice of symbology or metaphor inspires even one person and aims them in the direction of the moon, Cool, say I. Over time, perhaps, the specific images or one religion morph into others but there's some underlying natural push towards something bigger/greater than the individual that religion is one expression of. I think that all I'm trying to say is that the notion that there is something bigger/greater than the indiv- idual lessens to some extent the eternality and infinite nature of the individual. I am infinite. Whatever that I chooses to believe it is at any given point in time, or even any point outside of time, it's still infinite. As so few seem to understand here, I'm really not expressing truths, or claiming that my view of things is better or more accurate or more evolved than theirs. It's just my view. My view is that the world I see around me is *enough* to inspire me, and to lift me to heights of subjec- tive ecstasy and bliss. I can be transported to what Maharishi calls GC by the sight of a lonely guy look- ing for Love Or Something Like It on the streets of Sitges at 3:00 AM. I walk on, and pass the cathedral on the hill overlooking the ocean, and find myself more transported to realms of bliss and ecstasy by the sound of the waves below me than by the idea of the cathedral behind me. It's *not* that I'm ragging on traditional metaphors for eternality and the infinite. I'm suggesting that there are more of them than most people are aware of.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Durga Opens Up a Can of WhoopAss
Yeah, I thought the dreadlocks looked a little fakey, too, but who am I to doubt my own eyes. I'm not sure if I remember Davy Goliath, but it does ring a faint bell in my memory. I am a big fan of claymation, though, and if Nick Parks did a claymation Ramayana it would be fantastic. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: To Curtis and all the rational atheists out there, perhaps you overlooked this historical video in your atheistic research. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5LtKh31m0o As is painfully obvious, there are no special effects that can be discerned in examining this video recorded on a wandering ascetic's cell phone. Marek, at first I felt as though I had to re-think my whole position given the level of absolute proof that this film delivers. Then I thought in one scene that the movement seemed a little artificial. I have to view this a few more times but I have to still place this evidence in the I don't know pile. Sorry to be so overly skeptical about this film. It almost seemed to me as if this youtube was the real God and the video was just a part of himself. I used to watch an Indian cable show like this every Saturday morning. Better than Hong Kong Kung Fu flicks! It has a real Davy and Goliath vibe, remember that claymation cartoon? Thanks for posting it!