[FairfieldLife] Re: FF 'deeksha', Kalki cult, Chalanda Ma

2005-11-17 Thread anonymousff 
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wrote:

 
 Thanks, Doug. I've had deeksha from the Kalki group
 and am looking to get some from the Chalanda Ma group
 as soon as possible. If I like it, I'll learn how to
 give it myself.   
 

Dear Gull,

Please give us a report!  I'm very interested to see if the dikshas 
are the same.  Chalanda Ma charges $44 to learn how to give it, 
compared to $5500 via the Kalki group.
Thanks!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF 'deeksha', Kalki cult, Chalanda Ma

2005-11-17 Thread gullible fool 

According to their events calendar, you have to take a
one-day intensive before diksha training. There's a
course coming up in Colorado in December and the cost
is $88 for the one-day intensive and $55 for diksha
training. Ten percent discount if you book by November
27th. The $5500 for the 21-day Bhagavan course does
not even get you a single room, you have to share, and
it's maybe $1500 to get there and back.
  
http://www.humanityinunity.org/HIU/Events-Programs/2005Events/Dec2-4CrestoneMT/index.cfm

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  Thanks, Doug. I've had deeksha from the Kalki
 group
  and am looking to get some from the Chalanda Ma
 group
  as soon as possible. If I like it, I'll learn how
 to
  give it myself.   
  
 
 Dear Gull,
 
 Please give us a report!  I'm very interested to see
 if the dikshas 
 are the same.  Chalanda Ma charges $44 to learn how
 to give it, 
 compared to $5500 via the Kalki group.
 Thanks!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FF 'deeksha', Kalki cult, Chalanda Ma

2005-11-16 Thread dhamiltony2k5 
gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 Has anyone here received deeksha from the Chalanda Sai
 Ma people? 

Yeah, its the same. Similar. A specific deeksha darshan to the brain 
and upper chakras of the subtle system.  Depends some on who is 
giving it.  

Chalanda Ma seems to be promoting it as something to learn in form 
to give in that it cultivates the subtle system of the giver as 
well.  Kalki seems to be holding the positioning it as something to 
pay (him) for.  Chalanda Ma seems to be empire building with touches 
of flash like this.  With either camp, then it is what you do with 
it in the subtle system to illumine the divine within otherwise.  TM 
may have started something, these additions are advancement and then 
for instance Ammachi's IAM technique is a packaged spiritual 
practice then to integrate the shakti juice that can be in the 
deeksha that Chalanda Ma or Kalki are formatting.  That is my 
experience with it.  Chalanda and Kalki seem to have quite a lot of 
ego with it that they make contingent.  Ammachi's is pretty open-
handed by comparison for instance.  That is also my experience with 
it. 

  


 
 --- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Brahman
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
feste37 wrote:
   
Actually, the people in Fairfield who give
  deeksha
don't charge for it. It's free for anyone who
  wants it,
although you can leave a donation if you want.
  There is
no pressure on anyone to give or to recruit. 
  
  Well, they do have the lingo down actually... 
  You'll be enlightened 
  and never need to do sadana anymore with enough
  deeksha.  Real sweet 
  and earnest people, are pretty
  vested and are going back for the next hit of
  darshan.
  
  
   
   i am curious how big of a following there is in
  fairfield
   now, taking this deeksha ... just a handful, or
  is it
   a growing trend now that TMO is faltering? Do they
  have
   their own Center in fairfield, for this Kalki
  deeksha thing?
   Or a website?
  
  Seems sort of like everyone is giving `deeksha'
  here.   Chalanda Sai 
  Ma saw Kalki giving deeksh some while ago so she
  thought `heck I can 
  do that as a modality' and started giving it and
  also then teaching 
  how to give `deeksha'.  There is a lot of 'energy
  work' here otherwise 
  of the similar modality.
  
  The irony is that one of the first weekends that the
  couple who were 
  back from India having learned it for thousands of
  dollars from Kalki, 
  the local Chalanda Ma devotees gave a weekend course
  in how to give 
  deeksha for 45 bucks to cover the cost..   In both
  cases it is sort of 
  a laying of hands on the head energy work in form.  
  From either the 
  Kalki people here or the Chalanda Ma people here it
  is nice.  Partly 
  it is nice because of the powerful room of spiritual
  practitioners who 
  will git together and be at these meetings.  It is a
  powerful 
  meditating group here.
  
  As far as money, the Chalanda Sai Ma and Kalki folks
  here skate a fine 
  line just to cover costs.  People here generally are
  weary (sensitive) 
  of the cult thing of raising money.  Also, a lot of
  the money that 
  used to be here just is not anymore. … Just us
  spiritual church mice 
  remain mostly.
  
  -Doug
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF 'deeksha', Kalki cult, Chalanda Ma

2005-11-16 Thread gullible fool 

Thanks, Doug. I've had deeksha from the Kalki group
and am looking to get some from the Chalanda Ma group
as soon as possible. If I like it, I'll learn how to
give it myself.   

--- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
  Has anyone here received deeksha from the Chalanda
 Sai
  Ma people? 
 
 Yeah, its the same. Similar. A specific deeksha
 darshan to the brain 
 and upper chakras of the subtle system.  Depends
 some on who is 
 giving it.  
 
 Chalanda Ma seems to be promoting it as something to
 learn in form 
 to give in that it cultivates the subtle system of
 the giver as 
 well.  Kalki seems to be holding the positioning it
 as something to 
 pay (him) for.  Chalanda Ma seems to be empire
 building with touches 
 of flash like this.  With either camp, then it is
 what you do with 
 it in the subtle system to illumine the divine
 within otherwise.  TM 
 may have started something, these additions are
 advancement and then 
 for instance Ammachi's IAM technique is a packaged
 spiritual 
 practice then to integrate the shakti juice that can
 be in the 
 deeksha that Chalanda Ma or Kalki are formatting. 
 That is my 
 experience with it.  Chalanda and Kalki seem to have
 quite a lot of 
 ego with it that they make contingent.  Ammachi's is
 pretty open-
 handed by comparison for instance.  That is also my
 experience with 
 it. 
 
   
 
 
  
  --- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Brahman
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
   
 feste37 wrote:

 Actually, the people in Fairfield who give
   deeksha
 don't charge for it. It's free for anyone
 who
   wants it,
 although you can leave a donation if you
 want.
   There is
 no pressure on anyone to give or to recruit.
 
   
   Well, they do have the lingo down actually... 
   You'll be enlightened 
   and never need to do sadana anymore with enough
   deeksha.  Real sweet 
   and earnest people, are pretty
   vested and are going back for the next hit of
   darshan.
   
   

i am curious how big of a following there is
 in
   fairfield
now, taking this deeksha ... just a handful,
 or
   is it
a growing trend now that TMO is faltering? Do
 they
   have
their own Center in fairfield, for this Kalki
   deeksha thing?
Or a website?
   
   Seems sort of like everyone is giving `deeksha'
   here.   Chalanda Sai 
   Ma saw Kalki giving deeksh some while ago so she
   thought `heck I can 
   do that as a modality' and started giving it and
   also then teaching 
   how to give `deeksha'.  There is a lot of
 'energy
   work' here otherwise 
   of the similar modality.
   
   The irony is that one of the first weekends that
 the
   couple who were 
   back from India having learned it for thousands
 of
   dollars from Kalki, 
   the local Chalanda Ma devotees gave a weekend
 course
   in how to give 
   deeksha for 45 bucks to cover the cost..   In
 both
   cases it is sort of 
   a laying of hands on the head energy work in
 form.  
   From either the 
   Kalki people here or the Chalanda Ma people here
 it
   is nice.  Partly 
   it is nice because of the powerful room of
 spiritual
   practitioners who 
   will git together and be at these meetings.  It
 is a
   powerful 
   meditating group here.
   
   As far as money, the Chalanda Sai Ma and Kalki
 folks
   here skate a fine 
   line just to cover costs.  People here generally
 are
   weary (sensitive) 
   of the cult thing of raising money.  Also, a lot
 of
   the money that 
   used to be here just is not anymore. … Just us
   spiritual church mice 
   remain mostly.
   
   -Doug
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF 'deeksha', Kalki cult, Chalanda Ma

2005-11-13 Thread gullible fool 
 
Has anyone here received deeksha from the Chalanda Sai
Ma people? 

--- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Brahman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
   feste37 wrote:
  
   Actually, the people in Fairfield who give
 deeksha
   don't charge for it. It's free for anyone who
 wants it,
   although you can leave a donation if you want.
 There is
   no pressure on anyone to give or to recruit. 
 
 Well, they do have the lingo down actually... 
 You'll be enlightened 
 and never need to do sadana anymore with enough
 deeksha.  Real sweet 
 and earnest people, are pretty
 vested and are going back for the next hit of
 darshan.
 
 
  
  i am curious how big of a following there is in
 fairfield
  now, taking this deeksha ... just a handful, or
 is it
  a growing trend now that TMO is faltering? Do they
 have
  their own Center in fairfield, for this Kalki
 deeksha thing?
  Or a website?
 
 Seems sort of like everyone is giving `deeksha'
 here.   Chalanda Sai 
 Ma saw Kalki giving deeksh some while ago so she
 thought `heck I can 
 do that as a modality' and started giving it and
 also then teaching 
 how to give `deeksha'.  There is a lot of 'energy
 work' here otherwise 
 of the similar modality.
 
 The irony is that one of the first weekends that the
 couple who were 
 back from India having learned it for thousands of
 dollars from Kalki, 
 the local Chalanda Ma devotees gave a weekend course
 in how to give 
 deeksha for 45 bucks to cover the cost..   In both
 cases it is sort of 
 a laying of hands on the head energy work in form.  
 From either the 
 Kalki people here or the Chalanda Ma people here it
 is nice.  Partly 
 it is nice because of the powerful room of spiritual
 practitioners who 
 will git together and be at these meetings.  It is a
 powerful 
 meditating group here.
 
 As far as money, the Chalanda Sai Ma and Kalki folks
 here skate a fine 
 line just to cover costs.  People here generally are
 weary (sensitive) 
 of the cult thing of raising money.  Also, a lot of
 the money that 
 used to be here just is not anymore. … Just us
 spiritual church mice 
 remain mostly.
 
 -Doug
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FF 'deeksha', Kalki cult, Chalanda Ma

2005-11-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  feste37 wrote:
 
  Actually, the people in Fairfield who give deeksha
  don't charge for it. It's free for anyone who wants it,
  although you can leave a donation if you want. There is
  no pressure on anyone to give or to recruit. 

Well, they do have the lingo down actually...  You'll be enlightened 
and never need to do sadana anymore with enough deeksha.  Real sweet 
and earnest people, are pretty
vested and are going back for the next hit of darshan.


 
 i am curious how big of a following there is in fairfield
 now, taking this deeksha ... just a handful, or is it
 a growing trend now that TMO is faltering? Do they have
 their own Center in fairfield, for this Kalki deeksha thing?
 Or a website?

Seems sort of like everyone is giving `deeksha' here.   Chalanda Sai 
Ma saw Kalki giving deeksh some while ago so she thought `heck I can 
do that as a modality' and started giving it and also then teaching 
how to give `deeksha'.  There is a lot of 'energy work' here otherwise 
of the similar modality.

The irony is that one of the first weekends that the couple who were 
back from India having learned it for thousands of dollars from Kalki, 
the local Chalanda Ma devotees gave a weekend course in how to give 
deeksha for 45 bucks to cover the cost..   In both cases it is sort of 
a laying of hands on the head energy work in form.   From either the 
Kalki people here or the Chalanda Ma people here it is nice.  Partly 
it is nice because of the powerful room of spiritual practitioners who 
will git together and be at these meetings.  It is a powerful 
meditating group here.

As far as money, the Chalanda Sai Ma and Kalki folks here skate a fine 
line just to cover costs.  People here generally are weary (sensitive) 
of the cult thing of raising money.  Also, a lot of the money that 
used to be here just is not anymore. … Just us spiritual church mice 
remain mostly.

-Doug











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