[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread anonyff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 3/5/06 1:55 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> > wrote:
> >> 
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/zp6up
> >> 
> >> But that's a search in Yahoo itself, not the Russian equivalent
> >> of groups.yahoo.com. Or does each country which has a customized
> >> Yahoo have a customized Yahoo Groups home page?
> > 
> > That may be the answer, Rick. It seems clear that
> > the Yahoo search engine in these various countries
> > does not have access to the same search database
> > that the US Yahoo search engine has. There may be
> > a simple way to construct a home page for FFL on
> > each of the country-specific sites that would
> > correct this.
> 
> That's an interesting idea.  A FFL home page could be created on each of
> these, but the description would ask people to go to
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ to participate.

Good idea.  Maybe a home page (independent of yahoo) which redirects
people to the yahoo group page would catch people who search from
google, altavista etc.  I've just tried, and a search for "fairfield
life" on altavista finds the group page at number 4 (not bad) but
google doesn't seem to find it at all.

> But of course,
> they could do that directly, and may be in the habit of going to
> http://groups.yahoo.com/ if their national equivalent didn't have
> a very wide list of offerings.
>

They might go to the US site instead of their other national site,
or they might just search on their national site and think that'll
find everything there is.  I'm a reasonably savvy internet user and
it took me a while to work out that yahoo offers different groups in
different countries.  Hmmm, does too much TM make you stupid, or is
it just me?

Scorpianon





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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 3/5/06 1:55 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
 wrote:
> >> 
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/zp6up
> >> 
> >> But that's a search in Yahoo itself, not the Russian equivalent
> >> of groups.yahoo.com. Or does each country which has a customized
> >> Yahoo have a customized Yahoo Groups home page?
> > 
> > That may be the answer, Rick. It seems clear that
> > the Yahoo search engine in these various countries
> > does not have access to the same search database
> > that the US Yahoo search engine has. There may be
> > a simple way to construct a home page for FFL on
> > each of the country-specific sites that would
> > correct this.
> 
> That's an interesting idea.  A FFL home page could be created 
> on each of these, but the description would ask people to go to
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ to participate. 
> But of course, they could do that directly, and may be in the 
> habit of going to http://groups.yahoo.com/ if their national 
> equivalent didn't have a very wide list of offerings.

I suspect that's what happens by default. Unlike 
Google, Yahoo does not have a 'redirect' mechanism
that logs you in to the local site when you attempt
to contact yahoo.com from a country where there is
a local site. In contrast, type 'www.google.com'
from France, and you get redirected to www.google.fr.
Same with Google's other local sites.

So I would suspect that anyone from other countries
who had heard of Yahoo just typed in 'www.yahoo.com'
and got the US site and have continued with it ever
since. Unlike with Google, nothing interferes with
them doing this.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/5/06 2:25 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> Personally, I don't use the uk home page much, though its good for
>> checking UK news sometimes. Otherwise the .com is more useful,
>> more global.
> 
> T'would seem so, with the revelation that it doesn't
> distribute its Groups search engine database to all
> its local sites. It's an easily-correctable oversight
> that Google would've thought of early.

I'll send them the suggestion, although I don't know if anyone reads those.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/5/06 2:19 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Personally, I don't use the uk home page much, though its good for
> checking UK news sometimes. Otherwise the .com is more useful, more
> global.

And probably most experienced Internet users have discovered the same thing.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/5/06 1:55 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> http://tinyurl.com/zp6up
>> 
>> But that's a search in Yahoo itself, not the Russian equivalent
>> of groups.yahoo.com. Or does each country which has a customized
>> Yahoo have a customized Yahoo Groups home page?
> 
> That may be the answer, Rick. It seems clear that
> the Yahoo search engine in these various countries
> does not have access to the same search database
> that the US Yahoo search engine has. There may be
> a simple way to construct a home page for FFL on
> each of the country-specific sites that would
> correct this.

That's an interesting idea.  A FFL home page could be created on each of
these, but the description would ask people to go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ to participate. But of course,
they could do that directly, and may be in the habit of going to
http://groups.yahoo.com/ if their national equivalent didn't have a very
wide list of offerings.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" 
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>
> Personally, I don't use the uk home page much, though its good for 
> checking UK news sometimes. Otherwise the .com is more useful,
> more global.

T'would seem so, with the revelation that it doesn't
distribute its Groups search engine database to all
its local sites. It's an easily-correctable oversight
that Google would've thought of early.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 3/5/06 12:14 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > The Russian page is very useful, however try the following link and
> > see if you can find an active group related the topic:-
> > http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/
> 
> Can't. I see no setting which would enable FFL to show up in
> country-specific Yahoo groups. Alex or Gullible Fool to the rescue?

As far as I can tell, there's nothing we can do about that. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Personally, I don't use the uk home page much, though its good for 
checking UK news sometimes. Otherwise the .com is more useful, more 
global.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  
> wrote:
> >
> > on 3/5/06 12:14 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at premanandpaul@ wrote:
> > 
> > > The Russian page is very useful, however try the following link 
and
> > > see if you can find an active group related the topic:-
> > > http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/
> 
> Is the home(?)page "useless", then:
> 
> http://uk.yahoo.com
> 
> 
> > 
> > Can't. I see no setting which would enable FFL to show up in
> > country-specific Yahoo groups. Alex or Gullible Fool to the 
rescue?
> >
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> on 3/5/06 12:14 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > The Russian page is very useful, however try the following link and
> > see if you can find an active group related the topic:-
> > http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/

Is the home(?)page "useless", then:

http://uk.yahoo.com


> 
> Can't. I see no setting which would enable FFL to show up in
> country-specific Yahoo groups. Alex or Gullible Fool to the rescue?
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/zp6up
> 
> But that's a search in Yahoo itself, not the Russian equivalent 
> of groups.yahoo.com. Or does each country which has a customized 
> Yahoo have a customized Yahoo Groups home page?

That may be the answer, Rick. It seems clear that
the Yahoo search engine in these various countries
does not have access to the same search database 
that the US Yahoo search engine has. There may be
a simple way to construct a home page for FFL on 
each of the country-specific sites that would 
correct this.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/5/06 12:14 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The Russian page is very useful, however try the following link and
> see if you can find an active group related the topic:-
> http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/

Can't. I see no setting which would enable FFL to show up in
country-specific Yahoo groups. Alex or Gullible Fool to the rescue?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 3/5/06 12:03 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> 
> >> So maybe that's how so many non-US people find us. They know
> > they'll get a
> >> limited selection unless they use groups.yahoo.com
> > 
> > Hmm... strange, because:
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/zp6up
> 
> But that's a search in Yahoo itself, not the Russian equivalent of
> groups.yahoo.com. Or does each country which has a customized Yahoo
have a
> customized Yahoo Groups home page?
>

You may want to look for yourself.

http://uk.yahoo.com/world.html


And "fairfieldlife" nor "fairfield life" brings no results when
searching under UK groups.

Yahoo! Groups UK
Search Results
Sorry, no matches were found for 'fairfieldlife'.

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/search?query=fairfieldlife&ss=1





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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
The Russian page is very useful, however try the following link and 
see if you can find an active group related the topic:-
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>
> on 3/5/06 12:03 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> 
> >> So maybe that's how so many non-US people find us. They know
> > they'll get a
> >> limited selection unless they use groups.yahoo.com
> > 
> > Hmm... strange, because:
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/zp6up
> 
> But that's a search in Yahoo itself, not the Russian equivalent of
> groups.yahoo.com. Or does each country which has a customized Yahoo 
have a
> customized Yahoo Groups home page?
>






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/5/06 12:03 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> So maybe that's how so many non-US people find us. They know
> they'll get a
>> limited selection unless they use groups.yahoo.com
> 
> Hmm... strange, because:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/zp6up

But that's a search in Yahoo itself, not the Russian equivalent of
groups.yahoo.com. Or does each country which has a customized Yahoo have a
customized Yahoo Groups home page?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> on 3/5/06 11:01 AM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > In the UK, if one searches groups at yahoo.co.uk, only 4 groups 
are
> > displayed when searching 'Transcendental Meditation':-
> > Transcendental-Meditation-Siddhas - 21 members
> > Independent-Transcendental-Meditation - 13 members
> > i_TM - 5 members
> > Anutadaka - 5 members
> > & 
> > Typing 'Fairfield Life' gives the following response:
> > "Sorry, no matches were found for 'fairfield life'."
> > 
> > Whereas, if instead one searches from here using yahoo.com, 30 
groups
> > are listed including FFL.
> 
> So maybe that's how so many non-US people find us. They know 
they'll get a
> limited selection unless they use groups.yahoo.com

Hmm... strange, because:

http://tinyurl.com/zp6up



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/5/06 11:01 AM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In the UK, if one searches groups at yahoo.co.uk, only 4 groups are
> displayed when searching 'Transcendental Meditation':-
> Transcendental-Meditation-Siddhas - 21 members
> Independent-Transcendental-Meditation - 13 members
> i_TM - 5 members
> Anutadaka - 5 members
> & 
> Typing 'Fairfield Life' gives the following response:
> "Sorry, no matches were found for 'fairfield life'."
> 
> Whereas, if instead one searches from here using yahoo.com, 30 groups
> are listed including FFL.

So maybe that's how so many non-US people find us. They know they'll get a
limited selection unless they use groups.yahoo.com




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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In the UK, if one searches groups at yahoo.co.uk, only 4 groups are 
> displayed when searching 'Transcendental Meditation':-
> Transcendental-Meditation-Siddhas - 21 members
> Independent-Transcendental-Meditation - 13 members
> i_TM - 5 members
> Anutadaka - 5 members
> & 
> Typing 'Fairfield Life' gives the following response:
> "Sorry, no matches were found for 'fairfield life'."

Did you try "FairfieldLife" (no space)?


> 
> Whereas, if instead one searches from here using yahoo.com, 30
> groups are listed including FFL.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  
> wrote:
> >
> > on 3/5/06 9:51 AM, anonyff at anonyff@ wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey Rick,
> > > 
> > > Did you know FFL is only visible from the US yahoo site?  Anyone
> > > searching yahoo groups in Britain, Australia, France etc for
> > > "Fairfield Life" or "Transcendental Meditation" won't find this
> > > group. I don't know if you can change this, or if you want to...
> > 
> > Is this a recent development? If not, how did all you out-of-US 
> folks find
> > us? We have people signing up from India and places like that all 
> the time.
> > Or at least we did. I would like to fix this if we can.
> >
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
In the UK, if one searches groups at yahoo.co.uk, only 4 groups are 
displayed when searching 'Transcendental Meditation':-
Transcendental-Meditation-Siddhas - 21 members
Independent-Transcendental-Meditation - 13 members
i_TM - 5 members
Anutadaka - 5 members
& 
Typing 'Fairfield Life' gives the following response:
"Sorry, no matches were found for 'fairfield life'."

Whereas, if instead one searches from here using yahoo.com, 30 groups 
are listed including FFL.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> on 3/5/06 9:51 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hey Rick,
> > 
> > Did you know FFL is only visible from the US yahoo site?  Anyone
> > searching yahoo groups in Britain, Australia, France etc for
> > "Fairfield Life" or "Transcendental Meditation" won't find this
> > group. I don't know if you can change this, or if you want to...
> 
> Is this a recent development? If not, how did all you out-of-US 
folks find
> us? We have people signing up from India and places like that all 
the time.
> Or at least we did. I would like to fix this if we can.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread anonyff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 3/5/06 9:51 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hey Rick,
> > 
> > Did you know FFL is only visible from the US yahoo site?  Anyone
> > searching yahoo groups in Britain, Australia, France etc for
> > "Fairfield Life" or "Transcendental Meditation" won't find this
> > group. I don't know if you can change this, or if you want to...
> 
> Is this a recent development? If not, how did all you out-of-US
folks find
> us? We have people signing up from India and places like that all
the time.
> Or at least we did. I would like to fix this if we can.
>

I don't know if it's always been like that, but I found FFL in 2002
via yahoo.com, but couldn't find it via yahoo.co.uk.  After I signed
up I forgot about it, until now.

Scorpianon





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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US

2006-03-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Rick,
> 
> Did you know FFL is only visible from the US yahoo site?  Anyone
> searching yahoo groups in Britain, Australia, France etc for
> "Fairfield Life" or "Transcendental Meditation" won't find this
> group. I don't know if you can change this, or if you want to...

This is only partly true. FFL is clearly visible from
these sites, but the Yahoo Groups *search engine* does
not seem to find strings in the group's description.








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