Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces

2005-09-12 Thread Vaj



On 9/11/05 2:09 PM, David Fiske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All this makes what has become of the movement, the bizarre charade
 around him and the revelations about his behaviour on the FFL site all
 the more difficult to understand. Why? And it gets curiouser and
 curiouser, doesn't it?

If you retained, even at the level of super-subtle thought the idea (or
thought) that Maharishi was enlightened or your guru or an authority figure,
then your reality could construe (even from a super-subtle or subtle
construct) that he 'understood your situation in one glance', no?

Just a thought ;-)




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[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces

2005-09-11 Thread David Fiske
Thanks for posting that Ron. It reminds me of what attracted me to 
Maharishi in the first place. My own experience in `62 of seeing him 
after being carried up 6 flights of stairs by Count Blucher and Dick 
Britton-Foster after collapsing from my second kundalini awakening was 
similar in that I had to credit him with completely understanding my 
situation in one glance.

All this makes what has become of the movement, the bizarre charade 
around him and the revelations about his behaviour on the FFL site all 
the more difficult to understand. Why? And it gets curiouser and 
curiouser, doesn't it?

Love,
David (www.esotericarts.org)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces

2005-09-11 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, David Fiske [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Thanks for posting that Ron. It reminds me of what attracted me to 
 Maharishi in the first place. My own experience in `62 of seeing him 
 after being carried up 6 flights of stairs by Count Blucher and Dick 
 Britton-Foster



Was Dick Britton-Foster married to Fern Broughton, a long-ago TM 
teacher in Montreal?





 after collapsing from my second kundalini awakening was 
 similar in that I had to credit him with completely understanding my 
 situation in one glance.
 
 All this makes what has become of the movement, the bizarre charade 
 around him and the revelations about his behaviour on the FFL site 
all 
 the more difficult to understand. Why? And it gets curiouser and 
 curiouser, doesn't it?
 
 Love,
 David (www.esotericarts.org)




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[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces

2005-09-11 Thread David Fiske
I am not sure. I met his wife once in Toronto. I think she was a 
travel agent.Dick worked as a broker and lost Gene Watts a lot of 
money. Dick and wife emigrated to Wales I think.

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 Was Dick Britton-Foster married to Fern Broughton, a long-ago TM 
 teacher in Montreal?
 
 
 
 




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces

2005-09-11 Thread Peter
It is amazing, isn't it? You have this incredibly
realized being acting like a horses' ass the last few
decades. Go figure. Actually, don't go figure!

--- David Fiske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for posting that Ron. It reminds me of what
 attracted me to 
 Maharishi in the first place. My own experience in
 `62 of seeing him 
 after being carried up 6 flights of stairs by Count
 Blucher and Dick 
 Britton-Foster after collapsing from my second
 kundalini awakening was 
 similar in that I had to credit him with completely
 understanding my 
 situation in one glance.
 
 All this makes what has become of the movement, the
 bizarre charade 
 around him and the revelations about his behaviour
 on the FFL site all 
 the more difficult to understand. Why? And it gets
 curiouser and 
 curiouser, doesn't it?
 
 Love,
 David (www.esotericarts.org)
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces

2005-09-10 Thread jim_flanegin
Now that's living! Thanks for posting this!! I like the expression 
of the intellect turning inside out. Beautiful!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
 Subject: AEGTC, Switzerland 1976
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Williams)
 AEGTC, Switzerland 1976
 By Jay Latham
 
 Never had I seen him respond so powerfully. It was as if 
the Hammer of 
 God was slamming that table. He then exclaimed loudly, This is 
real 
 wholeness!
 
 Jay Latham:
 
 Maharishi, these experiences I've had over the past six months 
have been 
 glimpses of enlightenment for me. I had a tremendous awakening 
experience 
 before I started TM, but due to the circumstances, I feel a little 
shy about 
 telling it in the group. I then sent him a thought message that I 
would 
 relate my experience and not the circumstances.
 
 Maharishi paused for a moment to think about what I'd just said.
 
 It'll be all right to tell it, he said finally, in a thoughtful 
sort of 
 way.
 
 Maharishi, you've said that for every state of consciousness 
there is a 
 separate, corresponding state of reality. Waking state has its 
reality, 
 dream state has its reality, and deep sleep is another reality.
 
 Yes.
 
 You've taught us that transcendental consciousness is a fourth 
state of 
 consciousness?a fourth reality that is the underlying reality of 
all life.
 
 Yes.
 
 And you've taught that cosmic consciousness is a higher state of 
reality, 
 because one never loses consciousness of the transcendent even 
during 
 waking, dreaming and sleeping.
 
 Yes.
 
 You've also said that God consciousness and unity consciousness 
are even 
 deeper states of reality; so we have all these states of 
consciousness and 
 all these states of corresponding realities.
 
 Maharishi said yes this time in a somewhat impatient way, as if 
to convey, 
 Get to the point, where are you going with this?
 
 I'd been feeling an almighty power rise up inside of me as I asked 
Maharishi 
 each one of these questions, because I was consciously setting him 
up to 
 refute all that he had just said. I knew he knew the truth, but I 
wanted him 
 to come out with it in a way he had never done before. It was time 
for
 us to stop playing around like little children at his feet, and 
elicit from 
 him the real truth. A great rage suddenly ripped through my chest, 
burning 
 the lie in my heart. I wanted Maharishi to kill it right then and 
there, for 
 all time.
 
 Maharishi, in the experience of wholeness I had before I started 
TM, what 
 you've just said that basically reality is different in different 
states of 
 consciousness, is a total lie! What I experienced one night five 
years ago, 
 is that there is only one reality, has always been one reality, 
and will 
 forever be one reality! EVERYTHING ELSE IS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL 
LIE!
 
 YES! YES! YES! Maharishi loudly proclaimed. With each YES, his 
fist came 
 down on the table, Bang, Bang, Bang! Never had I seen him 
respond so 
 powerfully. It was as if the Hammer of God was slamming that 
table. He 
 then exclaimed loudly, This is real wholeness! I don't want to 
hear 
 anything but experiences of real wholeness! Continue with your 
experience.
 
 What I discovered in my experience, Maharishi, was that the 
personality I 
 know as Jay Latharn is a complete, fictitious lie. There is only 
one Being, 
 God. Everything else, even the 'reality' of God consciousness, is 
an 
 illusion. It's just like Shankara said.
 
 Now this is the real experience of wholeness! Maharishi 
proclaimed 
 excitedly.
 
 What happened is that I had an experience in which I went through 
all of 
 the states of consciousness. When I hit cosmic consciousness I 
closed my 
 eyes to meditate and witnessed creation in the flow of soma out of 
the bindu 
 point between my eyes. Everything shot out of that point, in 
stereo?whatever 
 came out on the left came out on the right. I saw the mechanics of 
creation. 
 It was the most amazing sight I ever saw. After that I started 
having 
 celestial perception with my eyes open.
 
 I then briefly explained the major points of my experiencethe 
jewels I'd 
 seen in the ceiling and how things were constructed of light rays 
created 
 from God's mind?how I walked and moved through a cosmic plasma 
that erased 
 the force of gravity, etc. Maharishi was paying close attention to 
what I   
   
 was saying, and having his attention on me like this was like 
having God 
 Almighty bum the lie right out of my heart. The longer I held his 
attention, 
 the more enlightened I got. Yes, lie had closely followed rny 
progress for 
 the past six months and given me a lot of attention, but this 
moment was the 
 greatest I'd ever had with him.
 
 I continued relating to Maharishi the progressive stages of rny 
awakening; 
 how I had felt the presence of God in everything and how 
everything I 
 perceived became the artwork of the Creator (Maharishi's 

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces

2005-09-10 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Now that's living! Thanks for posting this!! I like the expression 
 of the intellect turning inside out. Beautiful!

Yes, and I particularly enjoyed the vivid understanding that all the 
states of consciousness are a lie and only wholeness ever was, is, or 
shall be :-) 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: From Jay Lathom Book, Maharihsi comments on his experieces

2005-09-10 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Now that's living! Thanks for posting this!! I like the expression 
  of the intellect turning inside out. Beautiful!
 
 Yes, and I particularly enjoyed the vivid understanding that all the 
 states of consciousness are a lie and only wholeness ever was, is, 
or 
 shall be :-)

Yes, excellent mantra!




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