[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Here at last--Environmental bill up in House now.

[WillyTex]

Nelson wrote:
>  CO2 is used in some industrial applications 
> and, is the "fizz" in the soft drinks amongst 
> other things so increasing its cost will end 
> up on us.
>
This "amounts to the largest tax increase in 
American history under the guise of climate 
change," declared Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind.

Read more:

'Obama implores Senate to pass climate bill'
By Charles Babingtin
Associated Press, June 26, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/pbls9o 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Here at last--Environmental bill up in House now.

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex  wrote:
> >
> > Dick Mays wrote:
> > > Environmental bill up in House now.
> > > 
> > "This idea of climate change and the Cap 
> > and Trade business is all based on a lie, 
> > just like the Patriot Acts, DHS, etc, etc, 
> > were based on the 9-11 lies. What our 
> > leaders, energy producers and whoever 
> > else that will get rich on these new 
> > laws have not been telling us is that 
> > they have been keeping some important 
> > energy technology suppressed and hidden 
> > from the general public for at least 
> > the last 100 years..."
> > 
> > Read other Prison Planet comments:
> > 
> > 'US climate change bill passes key hurdle'
> > By Philip Sherwell
> > London Telegraph, Friday, May 22, 2009 
> > http://tinyurl.com/ph5jbb
> > 
> 
> The folks at Prison Planet are whack job conspiracy nuts. Let's put a little 
> less paranoia and a little more sanity into the discussion:
> 
> "The cap-and-trade legislation supported by the Obama administration  is a 
> stealth strategy for a massive long-term tax increase. It is a large tax on 
> all American households, and the tax burden rises in future years without any 
> need for further legislation. It will evolve into an enormous new source of 
> tax revenue for the government.
> 
> "A cap-and-trade system is supposed to reduce carbon-dioxide (CO2) emissions 
> by raising the price of CO2-intensive goods and services like gasoline, 
> electricity and a wide range of industrial products. This, in theory, will 
> induce consumers to shift their spending to services and products that 
> involve lower levels of CO2 emissions. It achieves these price increases by 
> requiring firms that create CO2 in their production process, or sell goods 
> like gasoline that create CO2 when used, to have a permit per ton of CO2 
> emission."
> 
> http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/06/25/cap-and-tax.aspxIf
>  
> 
> Would I rather pay income tax or happily watching my tax dollars whirl 'round 
> the bowl every time I flushed my toilet? I don't know, but definitely not 
> both. What say you?
> 
> raunchydog  
> 
snip,
 CO2 is used in some industrial applications and, is the "fizz" in the soft 
drinks amongst other things so increasing its cost will end up on us.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Here at last--Environmental bill up in House now.

[WillyTex]

> > > Environmental bill up in House now.
> > > 
> > "This idea of climate change and the Cap 
> > and Trade business is all based on a lie...
> >
> Let's put a little less paranoia and a little 
> more aanity into the discussion...
>
Maybe so, but it doesn't sound like a good idea
make the economy more of a shambles than it is
already, so I'd be opposed to the environmental
bill. But it does sound like a conspiracy to
destroy American business with a new tax burden.

Apparently the United States "is not ready to 
show the leadership necessary to reach a strong 
agreement at Copenhagen in December", therefore,
this bill is not supported by Greenpeace OR the
Prison Planet folks.

"Washington, D.C., United States — In advance 
of tomorrow's vote on the American Clean Energy 
and Security Act in the House of Representatives, 
Greenpeace USA Deputy Campaigns Director Carroll 
Muffett issued the following statement..."

'Greenpeace Opposes Waxman-Markey'
Greenpeace, June 25, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/m67dvn 
 
> > 'The Cap and Tax Fiction' 
> > Posted by Alex Jones
> > Prison Planet, June 26, 2009
> > http://tinyurl.com/kpwjlh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Here at last--Environmental bill up in House now.

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex  wrote:
>
> Dick Mays wrote:
> > Environmental bill up in House now.
> > 
> "This idea of climate change and the Cap 
> and Trade business is all based on a lie, 
> just like the Patriot Acts, DHS, etc, etc, 
> were based on the 9-11 lies. What our 
> leaders, energy producers and whoever 
> else that will get rich on these new 
> laws have not been telling us is that 
> they have been keeping some important 
> energy technology suppressed and hidden 
> from the general public for at least 
> the last 100 years..."
> 
> Read other Prison Planet comments:
> 
> 'US climate change bill passes key hurdle'
> By Philip Sherwell
> London Telegraph, Friday, May 22, 2009 
> http://tinyurl.com/ph5jbb
> 

The folks at Prison Planet are whack job conspiracy nuts. Let's put a little 
less paranoia and a little more sanity into the discussion:

"The cap-and-trade legislation supported by the Obama administration  is a 
stealth strategy for a massive long-term tax increase. It is a large tax on all 
American households, and the tax burden rises in future years without any need 
for further legislation. It will evolve into an enormous new source of tax 
revenue for the government.

"A cap-and-trade system is supposed to reduce carbon-dioxide (CO2) emissions by 
raising the price of CO2-intensive goods and services like gasoline, 
electricity and a wide range of industrial products. This, in theory, will 
induce consumers to shift their spending to services and products that involve 
lower levels of CO2 emissions. It achieves these price increases by requiring 
firms that create CO2 in their production process, or sell goods like gasoline 
that create CO2 when used, to have a permit per ton of CO2 emission."

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/06/25/cap-and-tax.aspxIf
 

Would I rather pay income tax or happily watching my tax dollars whirl 'round 
the bowl every time I flushed my toilet? I don't know, but definitely not both. 
What say you?

raunchydog  

> "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has put 
> cap-and-trade legislation on a forced 
> march through the House, and the bill 
> may get a full vote as early as Friday. 
> It looks as if the Democrats will have 
> to destroy the discipline of economics 
> to get it done..."
> 
> Read more on Prison Planet:
> 
> 'The Cap and Tax Fiction' 
> Posted by Alex Jones
> Prison Planet, June 26, 2009
> http://tinyurl.com/kpwjlh
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Here at last--Environmental bill up in House now.

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays  wrote:
>
> From: Paul Frank 
> 
> Dear Friends and Family
> 
> At last, here is our opportunity to push through an environmental 
> bill that will take the first serious actions to address global 
> warming   Repower America, an environmental group associated with Al 
> Gore has made it easy.   Call 877-9-REPOWER (877-9-737-6937) and it 
> will connect you to your Representative right after providing you 
> with talking points. (They are expecting high call volume, and if you 
> are unable to be connected please use the secondary line, 
> 866-590-0971.)
> 
> You can see an Al Gore video and get more info at 
> http://www.repoweramerica.org/page/s/agacesreportcall
> 
> My Love to All,
> Paul
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Here at last--Environmental bill up in House now.

[WillyTex]

Dick Mays wrote:
> Environmental bill up in House now.
> 
"This idea of climate change and the Cap 
and Trade business is all based on a lie, 
just like the Patriot Acts, DHS, etc, etc, 
were based on the 9-11 lies. What our 
leaders, energy producers and whoever 
else that will get rich on these new 
laws have not been telling us is that 
they have been keeping some important 
energy technology suppressed and hidden 
from the general public for at least 
the last 100 years..."

Read other Prison Planet comments:

'US climate change bill passes key hurdle'
By Philip Sherwell
London Telegraph, Friday, May 22, 2009 
http://tinyurl.com/ph5jbb

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has put 
cap-and-trade legislation on a forced 
march through the House, and the bill 
may get a full vote as early as Friday. 
It looks as if the Democrats will have 
to destroy the discipline of economics 
to get it done..."

Read more on Prison Planet:

'The Cap and Tax Fiction' 
Posted by Alex Jones
Prison Planet, June 26, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/kpwjlh