[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghandi on Women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > In one of his major biographies, it talked about him sleeping > > with two you virgins -- age 12 or so. The would lie on either > > side of him, facing the foot of the bet, while he faced the > > head. To rejuvinate him, to gain energy. nothing erotic > > involved. > > Funny how that line never works for me when the cops bust in. > > "Just rejuvinat'n officer, nut'n erotic involved, that's the ticket! Interestingly enough, for all you dirty-minded people :-), there is a strong possibility that he really *was* just sleeping between them, and never touched them. I've heard of the same thing in Tantric traditions. It's an energy thang, not a sexual one (except in the sense that it's the difference in the sexes that "triggers" the energy exchange between young women and old man). It has to do with the dream body and with the proximity of auric energy. Given the rest of his life, I'd give Gandhi the benefit of a doubt on this one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghandi on Women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > In one of his major biographies, it talked about him sleeping with two > > you virgins -- age 12 or so. The would lie on either side of him, > > facing the foot of the bet, while he faced the head. To rejuvinate > > him, to gain energy. nothing erotic involved. > > Funny how that line never works for me when the cops bust in. > > "Just rejuvinat'n officer, nut'n erotic involved, that's the ticket! > Yeah, but that could be because they were the police chief's daughters.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghandi on Women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In one of his major biographies, it talked about him sleeping with two > you virgins -- age 12 or so. The would lie on either side of him, > facing the foot of the bet, while he faced the head. To rejuvinate > him, to gain energy. nothing erotic involved. Funny how that line never works for me when the cops bust in. "Just rejuvinat'n officer, nut'n erotic involved, that's the ticket! > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > I'm not taking any advise about women from a guy who slept with his > > > underage nieces to "keep him warm". > > > > > > In my experience each of those qualities are found less or more in > > > each individual sex on a case by case basis. Gandhi knew peanuts > > > about women. (pun intended) > > > > FROM: > > > > The Mahatma and his 'girls' > > Author : Arvind Kala > > Publication : Free Press Journal > > Date : January 12, 1997 > > > > http://www.hvk.org/articles/0197/0041.html > > > > Bal Thackeray's sarcasm about Mahatma Gandhi being in the company > > of young girls in the twilight of his life has created a mini > > political storm, but his comment is based on history. In fact, > > Gandhi's life-long quest to eliminate all sexual desire from his > > being prompted him to try experiments which even troubled his > > followers. For instance, while touring Noakhali to calm > > Hindu-Muslim communal passions, Gandhi shared his bed every night > > with his 19-year-old great-niece and constant companion, Manu. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghandi on Women
In one of his major biographies, it talked about him sleeping with two you virgins -- age 12 or so. The would lie on either side of him, facing the foot of the bet, while he faced the head. To rejuvinate him, to gain energy. nothing erotic involved. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > I'm not taking any advise about women from a guy who slept with his > > underage nieces to "keep him warm". > > > > In my experience each of those qualities are found less or more in > > each individual sex on a case by case basis. Gandhi knew peanuts > > about women. (pun intended) > > FROM: > > The Mahatma and his 'girls' > Author : Arvind Kala > Publication : Free Press Journal > Date : January 12, 1997 > > http://www.hvk.org/articles/0197/0041.html > > Bal Thackeray's sarcasm about Mahatma Gandhi being in the company > of young girls in the twilight of his life has created a mini > political storm, but his comment is based on history. In fact, > Gandhi's life-long quest to eliminate all sexual desire from his > being prompted him to try experiments which even troubled his > followers. For instance, while touring Noakhali to calm > Hindu-Muslim communal passions, Gandhi shared his bed every night > with his 19-year-old great-niece and constant companion, Manu.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghandi on Women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not taking any advise about women from a guy who slept with his > underage nieces to "keep him warm". > > In my experience each of those qualities are found less or more in > each individual sex on a case by case basis. Gandhi knew peanuts > about women. (pun intended) FROM: The Mahatma and his 'girls' Author : Arvind Kala Publication : Free Press Journal Date : January 12, 1997 http://www.hvk.org/articles/0197/0041.html Bal Thackeray's sarcasm about Mahatma Gandhi being in the company of young girls in the twilight of his life has created a mini political storm, but his comment is based on history. In fact, Gandhi's life-long quest to eliminate all sexual desire from his being prompted him to try experiments which even troubled his followers. For instance, while touring Noakhali to calm Hindu-Muslim communal passions, Gandhi shared his bed every night with his 19-year-old great-niece and constant companion, Manu. This greatly shocked his followers and one of them, Nirmal Kumar Bose, who worked closely with Gandhi during the months of 1946-47, mentioned this in a letter he wrote to another troubled associate. Bose wrote: "When I first learnt in detail about Gandhi's prayog or experiment, I felt genuinely surprised. I was informed that he sometimes asked women to share his bed and even the cover which he used, and tried to ascertain if even the least trace of sensual feeling had been evoked in himself or his companion. "Personally, I would never tempt myself like that; nor would my respect for a woman's personality permit me to treat her as an instrument of an experiment undertaken only for my own sake. But when I learnt about this technique of self-examination employed by Gandhiji, I felt that I had discovered the reason why some regarded Gandhiji as their private possession, this feeling often leading them to a kind of emotional imbalance. The behaviour of A, B, or C, for instance, is no proof of a healthy psychological relationship. "Whatever may be the value of the prayog on Gandhiji's own case, it does leave a mark of injury on the personality of others who are not of the same moral stature as he himself is, and for whom sharing in Gandhiji's experiment is no spiritual necessity." These paragraphs come from a book. My days with Gandhi, that Bose wrote in 1953. But before mailing this letter, Bose showed it to Gandhi and Gandhi replied that his self-examination was part of his dharma. It lid not imply any assumption of a woman's authority. Gandhi replied to Bose thus: "I believed in a woman's perfect equality with man. My wife was 'inferior' when she was the instrument of my lust. She ceased to be that when she lay with me naked as my sister. If she and I were not lustfully agitated in our minds and bodies, the contact raised both of us ... "I do hope you will acquit me of having any lustful designs upon women or girls who have been naked with me. . A campaign of calumny began against him and news of his sleeping with Manu spread intense shock among Congress leaders in Delhi waiting to begin their critical talks with India's new Viceroy. Gandhi remained untroubled. He calmed his immediate followers in Noakhali, but when he sent his views to his newspaper, Harijan, about why Manu shared his bed, the storm broke out again. Two of Harijan's editors quit in protest. Its trustees, fearful of a scandal, did something they had never dreamed of doing before. They refused to publish the text written by the Mahatma. Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre record in Freedom at Midnight that a series of emissaries discreetly asked Gandhi to abandon his relationship with Manu. But he refused. He had to leave for Bihar and he said he would take Manu along with him. Finally, Manu herself suggested to Gandhi that they suspend the practice. In a sense, Bal Thackeray has done a great service to India by re-opening a part of Gandhi's life that Indians never discuss out of misplaced loyalty to the Mahatma. The irony is that if Gandhi had been alive, he would have welcomed Thackeray's criticism to have another look at himself. In fact, Gandhi has already passed into history as one of the greatest men of all times and his greatness cannot be diminished by his sexual experiments. Gandhi's association with young women in his last years has been documented by several writers. One of them was Margaret Bourke-White, a photographer of Life magazine, who spent several months in India in the tumultuous months before Independence. In her book, Halfway to Freedom, Bourke-White wrote that in 1946, Gandhi used to receive daily two-hour massages from Sushila or one of his other women in his ashram. A few decades later, American writer Ronald Segal wrote in is book, Criss of India, that Gandhi's close association with women was frequently harmful to them. Many of them became neurotic, few of them married or even led normal or appare
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ghandi on Women
I'm not taking any advise about women from a guy who slept with his underage nieces to "keep him warm". In my experience each of those qualities are found less or more in each individual sex on a case by case basis. Gandhi knew peanuts about women. (pun intended) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "To call women the weaker sex is a libel: it is man's injustice to women. > > If by strength is meant brute strength, then indeed is woman less > brute than man. > > If by strength is meant moral power, then woman is immeasurably man's > superior. > > Has she not greater intuition, is she not more self-sacrificing, has > she not greater powers of endurance, has she not greater courage? > > Without her, man would not be. If non-violence is the law of our > being, the future is with women. > > Mahatma Gandhi (1869-assassinated 1948), Hindu national leader > http://www.xmission.com/~tssphoto/mom/RAEN0106.html >
