[FairfieldLife] Re: Hindu mythology and current Bipartisanship [just for fun]

2009-01-29 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M"  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks - I enjoyed that. Brilliant.
> > 
> > And yet...
> > 
> > How do you get to this?
> > 
> > "It's tough being the good guysIt gets wearing, having to be
> > the bigger person all the time."
> > 
> > Can I become "a good guy"? What's the secret? The technique?
> > 
> > Do you ever entertain any self-doubt? That perhaps you are NOT the
> > "good guy"? Or have you found a way to overcome that?
> > 
> > Perhaps I misunderstand you (Dang! There's that irritating self-doubt
> > again!). OK, I know, it was "just for fun".
> 
> 
> 
> Those are interesting questions indeed. Perhaps however, it isn´t
> beyond you to notice that I wasn´t the author of the piece - as the
> attribution at the end clearly indicates.
> 

Doh! Does seem to be beyond me. Never mind.

> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The benefits and perils of bipartisanship are described in the story
> > > of Lakshmi, the Hindu Goddess of good fortune.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hindu theology is complicated, and has many different branches (and
> > > even has atheistic forms).  One deity may have many manifestations
> > > (for instance, Radha and Tulsi are both said to be aspects of
> > > Lakshmi), but in most forms of Hinduism all deities are ultimately
> > > part of a single divine force.  In the stories, however, they are
> > > usually treated as separate entities.
> > > 
> > > Lakshmi is the bringer of all forms of good fortune:  health,
wealth,
> > > and love.  She's much beloved by my Hindu sister-in-law, which may
> > > explain why there's a gorgeous Lakshmi statuette in her Jewish
> > > mother's home.  (We are, to put it mildly, an ecumenical family.) 
> > > Lakshmi is sometimes said to be fickle, as good fortune comes
and goes
> > > at odd times.
> > > 
> > > Lakshmi's story begins at a time when the lesser divinities (devas),
> > > led by Indra , were faring poorly in their ongoing conflicts
with the
> > > demons.  (Yes, in this post-partisan era, it's bad manners for me to
> > > cast the Republicans as demons – but if the shoe fits the cloven
hoof,
> > > may as well wear it.*)  In desperate need of help, the devas spent
> > > many days in prayer to Vishnu , the Preserver.
> > > 
> > > Vishnu appeared in a radiant blue light.  He told them that they
could
> > > have the greatest gift of all:  the Elixir of Immortality.  But they
> > > would have to get it by churning the entire Ocean of Milk (the Milky
> > > Way).  To accomplish this, they would have to call a truce with the
> > > demons and work together.  And that was the easy part.
> > > 
> > > When Indra explained the plan to the demons, their first
response was,
> > > "Are you f'ing kidding me?"  But Indra pointed out that there was
> > > something in it for them.  Both sides wanted the elixir, and neither
> > > side could accomplish it alone.  So, the rivals struck a bipartisan
> > > compromise.
> > > 
> > > First, they cut off the top of Mount Meru, the pillar of the
universe,
> > > to use as a stick to churn the ocean.  Vishnu took the form of a
giant
> > > turtle and then swam underneath to keep it from sinking.
> > > 
> > > No rope in the universe was strong enough for this task.  So Vishnu
> > > sent for Vasuki, the king of the serpents.  The great snake
coiled his
> > > body around the mountain.  The devas held onto his head, the demons
> > > held his tail, and they took turns pulling the mountain back and
> > forth.  
> > > 
> > > [Illustration, if you're having trouble picturing this:  
> > >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kurma_Avatar_of_Vishnu._ca_1870.jpg ]
> > > 
> > > And the Ocean of Milk began to churn.  
> > > 
> > > Soon a great silvery orb arose from the ocean, bathing them all
in its
> > > soft light.  It glided up into the sky, and became the moon. 
They all
> > > stared in wonder at the shiny object.  But it was not the Elixir of
> > > Immortality, so they set back to work.
> > > 
> > > Over the hours and days that followed, fourteen treasures were
churned
> > > forth from the Ocean of Milk, including Surabhi (the sacred cow),
> > > Kalpavriksha (the wish-granting tree), Kaustubha (the word's most
> > > precious jewel), and Varuni, the Goddess of alcohol (which,
> > > surprisingly, is not the Elixir of Immortality).
> > > 
> > > Finally the great serpent could take no more.  He had been pushed,
> > > pulled, turned and squeezed for days.  He opened his mouth and
vomited
> > > his poison into the sea.  Vasuki's poison was so toxic that it could
> > > end all life in the universe.
> > > 
> > > The devas and demons cried out to the only on who could save them: 
> > > Shiva , the Destroyer.  Shiva came from heaven, bent down and drank
> > > all the venom.  The poison was so strong that Shiva's neck turned
> > > blue.  But the universe was saved.
> > > 
> > > The devas and demons were 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hindu mythology and current Bipartisanship [just for fun]

2009-01-29 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M"  wrote:
>
> Thanks - I enjoyed that. Brilliant.
> 
> And yet...
> 
> How do you get to this?
> 
> "It's tough being the good guysIt gets wearing, having to be
> the bigger person all the time."
> 
> Can I become "a good guy"? What's the secret? The technique?
> 
> Do you ever entertain any self-doubt? That perhaps you are NOT the
> "good guy"? Or have you found a way to overcome that?
> 
> Perhaps I misunderstand you (Dang! There's that irritating self-doubt
> again!). OK, I know, it was "just for fun".



Those are interesting questions indeed. Perhaps however, it isn´t
beyond you to notice that I wasn´t the author of the piece - as the
attribution at the end clearly indicates.





> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > The benefits and perils of bipartisanship are described in the story
> > of Lakshmi, the Hindu Goddess of good fortune.
> > 
> > 
> > Hindu theology is complicated, and has many different branches (and
> > even has atheistic forms).  One deity may have many manifestations
> > (for instance, Radha and Tulsi are both said to be aspects of
> > Lakshmi), but in most forms of Hinduism all deities are ultimately
> > part of a single divine force.  In the stories, however, they are
> > usually treated as separate entities.
> > 
> > Lakshmi is the bringer of all forms of good fortune:  health, wealth,
> > and love.  She's much beloved by my Hindu sister-in-law, which may
> > explain why there's a gorgeous Lakshmi statuette in her Jewish
> > mother's home.  (We are, to put it mildly, an ecumenical family.) 
> > Lakshmi is sometimes said to be fickle, as good fortune comes and goes
> > at odd times.
> > 
> > Lakshmi's story begins at a time when the lesser divinities (devas),
> > led by Indra , were faring poorly in their ongoing conflicts with the
> > demons.  (Yes, in this post-partisan era, it's bad manners for me to
> > cast the Republicans as demons – but if the shoe fits the cloven hoof,
> > may as well wear it.*)  In desperate need of help, the devas spent
> > many days in prayer to Vishnu , the Preserver.
> > 
> > Vishnu appeared in a radiant blue light.  He told them that they could
> > have the greatest gift of all:  the Elixir of Immortality.  But they
> > would have to get it by churning the entire Ocean of Milk (the Milky
> > Way).  To accomplish this, they would have to call a truce with the
> > demons and work together.  And that was the easy part.
> > 
> > When Indra explained the plan to the demons, their first response was,
> > "Are you f'ing kidding me?"  But Indra pointed out that there was
> > something in it for them.  Both sides wanted the elixir, and neither
> > side could accomplish it alone.  So, the rivals struck a bipartisan
> > compromise.
> > 
> > First, they cut off the top of Mount Meru, the pillar of the universe,
> > to use as a stick to churn the ocean.  Vishnu took the form of a giant
> > turtle and then swam underneath to keep it from sinking.
> > 
> > No rope in the universe was strong enough for this task.  So Vishnu
> > sent for Vasuki, the king of the serpents.  The great snake coiled his
> > body around the mountain.  The devas held onto his head, the demons
> > held his tail, and they took turns pulling the mountain back and
> forth.  
> > 
> > [Illustration, if you're having trouble picturing this:  
> >
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kurma_Avatar_of_Vishnu._ca_1870.jpg ]
> > 
> > And the Ocean of Milk began to churn.  
> > 
> > Soon a great silvery orb arose from the ocean, bathing them all in its
> > soft light.  It glided up into the sky, and became the moon.  They all
> > stared in wonder at the shiny object.  But it was not the Elixir of
> > Immortality, so they set back to work.
> > 
> > Over the hours and days that followed, fourteen treasures were churned
> > forth from the Ocean of Milk, including Surabhi (the sacred cow),
> > Kalpavriksha (the wish-granting tree), Kaustubha (the word's most
> > precious jewel), and Varuni, the Goddess of alcohol (which,
> > surprisingly, is not the Elixir of Immortality).
> > 
> > Finally the great serpent could take no more.  He had been pushed,
> > pulled, turned and squeezed for days.  He opened his mouth and vomited
> > his poison into the sea.  Vasuki's poison was so toxic that it could
> > end all life in the universe.
> > 
> > The devas and demons cried out to the only on who could save them: 
> > Shiva , the Destroyer.  Shiva came from heaven, bent down and drank
> > all the venom.  The poison was so strong that Shiva's neck turned
> > blue.  But the universe was saved.
> > 
> > The devas and demons were exhausted.  They had been churning the ocean
> > for days, and still did not have the elixir.  And now they were
> > afraid:  what if they brought forth more poison?
> > 
> > Vishnu urged them to continue.  This was the greatest task they had
> > ever undertaken; it wasn't supposed to be easy.  The goal was wor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hindu mythology and current Bipartisanship [just for fun]

2009-01-29 Thread Richard M
Thanks - I enjoyed that. Brilliant.

And yet...

How do you get to this?

"It's tough being the good guysIt gets wearing, having to be
the bigger person all the time."

Can I become "a good guy"? What's the secret? The technique?

Do you ever entertain any self-doubt? That perhaps you are NOT the
"good guy"? Or have you found a way to overcome that?

Perhaps I misunderstand you (Dang! There's that irritating self-doubt
again!). OK, I know, it was "just for fun".


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> The benefits and perils of bipartisanship are described in the story
> of Lakshmi, the Hindu Goddess of good fortune.
> 
> 
> Hindu theology is complicated, and has many different branches (and
> even has atheistic forms).  One deity may have many manifestations
> (for instance, Radha and Tulsi are both said to be aspects of
> Lakshmi), but in most forms of Hinduism all deities are ultimately
> part of a single divine force.  In the stories, however, they are
> usually treated as separate entities.
> 
> Lakshmi is the bringer of all forms of good fortune:  health, wealth,
> and love.  She's much beloved by my Hindu sister-in-law, which may
> explain why there's a gorgeous Lakshmi statuette in her Jewish
> mother's home.  (We are, to put it mildly, an ecumenical family.) 
> Lakshmi is sometimes said to be fickle, as good fortune comes and goes
> at odd times.
> 
> Lakshmi's story begins at a time when the lesser divinities (devas),
> led by Indra , were faring poorly in their ongoing conflicts with the
> demons.  (Yes, in this post-partisan era, it's bad manners for me to
> cast the Republicans as demons – but if the shoe fits the cloven hoof,
> may as well wear it.*)  In desperate need of help, the devas spent
> many days in prayer to Vishnu , the Preserver.
> 
> Vishnu appeared in a radiant blue light.  He told them that they could
> have the greatest gift of all:  the Elixir of Immortality.  But they
> would have to get it by churning the entire Ocean of Milk (the Milky
> Way).  To accomplish this, they would have to call a truce with the
> demons and work together.  And that was the easy part.
> 
> When Indra explained the plan to the demons, their first response was,
> "Are you f'ing kidding me?"  But Indra pointed out that there was
> something in it for them.  Both sides wanted the elixir, and neither
> side could accomplish it alone.  So, the rivals struck a bipartisan
> compromise.
> 
> First, they cut off the top of Mount Meru, the pillar of the universe,
> to use as a stick to churn the ocean.  Vishnu took the form of a giant
> turtle and then swam underneath to keep it from sinking.
> 
> No rope in the universe was strong enough for this task.  So Vishnu
> sent for Vasuki, the king of the serpents.  The great snake coiled his
> body around the mountain.  The devas held onto his head, the demons
> held his tail, and they took turns pulling the mountain back and
forth.  
> 
> [Illustration, if you're having trouble picturing this:  
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kurma_Avatar_of_Vishnu._ca_1870.jpg ]
> 
> And the Ocean of Milk began to churn.  
> 
> Soon a great silvery orb arose from the ocean, bathing them all in its
> soft light.  It glided up into the sky, and became the moon.  They all
> stared in wonder at the shiny object.  But it was not the Elixir of
> Immortality, so they set back to work.
> 
> Over the hours and days that followed, fourteen treasures were churned
> forth from the Ocean of Milk, including Surabhi (the sacred cow),
> Kalpavriksha (the wish-granting tree), Kaustubha (the word's most
> precious jewel), and Varuni, the Goddess of alcohol (which,
> surprisingly, is not the Elixir of Immortality).
> 
> Finally the great serpent could take no more.  He had been pushed,
> pulled, turned and squeezed for days.  He opened his mouth and vomited
> his poison into the sea.  Vasuki's poison was so toxic that it could
> end all life in the universe.
> 
> The devas and demons cried out to the only on who could save them: 
> Shiva , the Destroyer.  Shiva came from heaven, bent down and drank
> all the venom.  The poison was so strong that Shiva's neck turned
> blue.  But the universe was saved.
> 
> The devas and demons were exhausted.  They had been churning the ocean
> for days, and still did not have the elixir.  And now they were
> afraid:  what if they brought forth more poison?
> 
> Vishnu urged them to continue.  This was the greatest task they had
> ever undertaken; it wasn't supposed to be easy.  The goal was worth
> it.  And so, slowly at first, they once again began to pull the
> mountain back and forth.
> 
> After hours of their labor, a Goddess emerged from the sea of milk,
> enthroned on a giant red lotus.  She was incomparably beautiful,
> dressed in red silk and dazzling jewels.  Her body glowed with a
> golden radiance.  Her dark eyes shone with joy and compassion.  Two of
> her four hands made gestures of blessing and protection.  A th