[FairfieldLife] Re: How the healthcare bill may INCREASE the number of uninsured.

2009-12-21 Thread BillyG
I wonder how long it will take for Obama to completely bankrupt the entire 
Country? after all Barack Obama  believes America is a Rich Country,  Pres. 
Debate '08.


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 How Obamacare Will Hurt Young People – by Dick Morris
  
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   [Teenage Problems, Social Issues and Bullying]
 
 A detailed analysis of the Obama health care program now before the
 Senate indicates that it will force big premium increases for all
 families http://frontpagemag.com/wp-admin/# , especially for those
 under 30 years of age.
 
 The study http://frontpagemag.com/wp-admin/# , by the consulting firm
 of Oliver Wyman, concludes that premiums for individuals will rise by
 $1,576 and $3,341 for families by under the bill. Young people will be
 hit the hardest. The study predicted that premiums for new health
 insurance policies purchased by the youngest third of the population
 would rise by 35 percent under the bill.
 
 These increases will stem from the bill's provisions that bar
 http://frontpagemag.com/wp-admin/#  insurance companies from raising
 rates on sick people and from excluding people based on pre-existing
 conditions. Both of these mandates will mean higher costs for the
 younger and healthier population. This bill is, in effect, a tax on the
 young.
 
 Nor will subsidies do much to mitigate the impact. To get a subsidy
 under the bill, you have to earn less than about $80,000 a year
 (combined household income) and have spent between 2 percent and 10
 percent of your income on premiums http://frontpagemag.com/wp-admin/#
 .
 
 So a couple making a combined income of $40,000 would have to pay about
 5 percent of their income, $2,000, before they could get subsidies.
 Those making $60,000 would have to pay about 8 percent of their income
 — $4,800 – before they could get a subsidy.
 
 And those making $80,000 would have to chip in 10 percent of their
 income — $8,000 — before they would get a subsidy.
 
 These are hefty bills for young families to bear.
 
 So most won't do it. The fine for failing to have health insurance
 [http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif] 
 http://frontpagemag.com/wp-admin/#  is only $750. So most young people
 will just pay the fine and be done with it. When they get sick,
 they'll get covered and the insurance company can't charge them
 a higher premium than it would have charged when they were healthy. And
 it can't turn them away.
 
 So this bill is not a measure for full national health insurance
 coverage. At best, it's a bill that will insure you when you are
 sick and make the rest of us pay the bill. And, in the meantime,
 you'll have to chip in $750 a year for the privilege.
 
 Employers, too, will find it much cheaper to pay the $750 per employee
 than to buy insurance.
 
 Ironically, there is a good chance that this bill will actually increase
 the number of uninsured. Its ban on letting insurers raise rates on sick
 people will force premiums so high that many people will drop their
 insurance. After all, when they get sick, they can and will easily get
 their insurance back.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the healthcare bill may INCREASE the number of uninsured.

2009-12-21 Thread Mike Dixon
You mean default? Why hell, all he has to do is print up more money!





From: BillyG wg...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 21, 2009 7:09:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the healthcare bill may INCREASE the number of 
uninsured.

  
I wonder how long it will take for Obama to completely bankrupt the entire 
Country? after all Barack Obama believes America is a Rich Country, Pres. 
Debate '08.

--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ ... wrote:

 How Obamacare Will Hurt Young People – by Dick Morris
 
 [http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/2971de6b63f404f0c8e20c809753324b?s=28d= on 
 Dec 21st, 2009 and
 filed under FrontPage http://frontpagemag.com/category/front-page/ .
 You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0
 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/12/21/how-obamacare-will-hurt-young-people , 
 especially for those
 under 30 years of age.
 
 The study http://frontpagemag .com/wp-admin/ # , by the consulting firm
 of Oliver Wyman, concludes that premiums for individuals will rise by
 $1,576 and $3,341 for families by under the bill. Young people will be
 hit the hardest. The study predicted that premiums for new health
 insurance policies purchased by the youngest third of the population
 would rise by 35 percent under the bill.
 
 These increases will stem from the bill's provisions that bar
 http://frontpagemag .com/wp-admin/ # insurance companies from raising
 rates on sick people and from excluding people based on pre-existing
 conditions. Both of these mandates will mean higher costs for the
 younger and healthier population. This bill is, in effect, a tax on the
 young.
 
 Nor will subsidies do much to mitigate the impact. To get a subsidy
 under the bill, you have to earn less than about $80,000 a year
 (combined household income) and have spent between 2 percent and 10
 percent of your income on premiums http://frontpagemag .com/wp-admin/ #
 .
 
 So a couple making a combined income of $40,000 would have to pay about
 5 percent of their income, $2,000, before they could get subsidies.
 Those making $60,000 would have to pay about 8 percent of their income
 — $4,800 – before they could get a subsidy.
 
 And those making $80,000 would have to chip in 10 percent of their
 income — $8,000 — before they would get a subsidy.
 
 These are hefty bills for young families to bear.
 
 So most won't do it. The fine for failing to have health insurance
 [http://images. intellitxt. com/ast/adTypes/ 2_bing.gif] 
 http://frontpagemag .com/wp-admin/ # is only $750. So most young people
 will just pay the fine and be done with it. When they get sick,
 they'll get covered and the insurance company can't charge them
 a higher premium than it would have charged when they were healthy. And
 it can't turn them away.
 
 So this bill is not a measure for full national health insurance
 coverage. At best, it's a bill that will insure you when you are
 sick and make the rest of us pay the bill. And, in the meantime,
 you'll have to chip in $750 a year for the privilege.
 
 Employers, too, will find it much cheaper to pay the $750 per employee
 than to buy insurance.
 
 Ironically, there is a good chance that this bill will actually increase
 the number of uninsured. Its ban on letting insurers raise rates on sick
 people will force premiums so high that many people will drop their
 insurance. After all, when they get sick, they can and will easily get
 their insurance back.






  

[FairfieldLife] Re: How the healthcare bill may INCREASE the number of uninsured.

2009-12-21 Thread WillyTex


BillyG wrote:
 I wonder how long it will take for Obama to 
 completely bankrupt the entire Country...

Apparently he's working on it this week, Billy.

According to Obama, without the passage of the
health care 'reform' bill, America will be 
bankrupt. But, I thought American was already 
bankrupt, and that was the reason for the 
economic bailout. Go figure.

But, it's not all bad news, Billy. 

At least the U.S. didn't get bullied into giving 
away more billions of dollars at Copenhagen!

The Copenhagen Accord is merely a UN decision 
that has no legal standing and there is no 
timetable to turn it into a proper treaty...

'Copenhagen climate summit: report card'
Telegraph, December 21, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/ybey4e5



[FairfieldLife] Re: How the healthcare bill may INCREASE the number of uninsured.

2009-12-21 Thread BillyG


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:

 But, it's not all bad news, Billy. 
 
 At least the U.S. didn't get bullied into giving 
 away more billions of dollars at Copenhagen!
 
 The Copenhagen Accord is merely a UN decision 
 that has no legal standing and there is no 
 timetable to turn it into a proper treaty...
 
 'Copenhagen climate summit: report card'
 Telegraph, December 21, 2009
 http://tinyurl.com/ybey4e5

Let's not forget about the EPA Gestapo!! The strong arm of the environmentalist 
wacko movement!  AKA, the Greens! The end is near The sky is falling and 
other original proclamations

It would take a land mass the size of Tennessee or bigger populated with wind 
turbines to replace the energy we currently get from coal, the technology is 
simply not there yet!