[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Maharishi your Primary Source of Biblcal Research and Scholarship?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > Jesus said, "The Kingdom of Heaven is within", also, > > "Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto > you". > > This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... > > Robert, s Maharishi your primary source of biblical scholarship these > translations an contextual meanings? > > If I were to ask you where in the Bible says this, and in what > context, could you cite chapter and verse without looking? > > Have you even read Luke 17 to see the context of the statement? > > Are you aware that kingdom of heaven is within can and has also been > translated as the "kingdom of god is amongst us", the reign of heaven > has come upon us. That's hard to square with the part of the verse that says [the kingdom of God] commeth not with observation. > Are you aware that it is quite reasonable that "Jesus assumes his > hearers understand the Kingdom foundation that was laid in the Hebrew > Scriptures. When Jesus speaks of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven > ... he speaks of the time of the fulfillment of the Abrahamic and > Davidic covenants. A time of a restored earth where the faithful will > worship and serve their God forever under the rulership of a righteous > leader of the Davidic line. Jesus also said that his kingdom is not of this world. > This was the Messianic hope of the > prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures and was carried over and echoed in > the words of John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter, Paul and others in the > Greek Scriptures. > > Can you cite any Christian tradition that feels that "kingdom of > heaven within" is a beacon call to transcend via TM? > > Was the passage in Luke 17 about the healing of 10 leepers in anyway > related to the KoH statement in verse 20? > > Does the fact that most of the remaining verses in Chapter 17 after > verses 20-21 are about when the Son of God would be revealed have > anything to do with V 20-21? > > I am sure you are answering yes to these questions, and have > insightful follow-ups for them. Can you share? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Maharishi your Primary Source of Biblcal Research and Scholarship?
(snip) > > That's hard to square with the part of the verse that says [the > kingdom of God] commeth not with observation. He means that you must act in order to fulfill your destiny, here on earth, because you have a limited time here. > > Are you aware that it is quite reasonable that "Jesus assumes his > > hearers understand the Kingdom foundation that was laid in the Hebrew > > Scriptures. When Jesus speaks of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of HeavenES, Jesus was a Jew, so he believed in all of what went before him. What he added to it, was the fur > > ... he speaks of the time of the fulfillment of the Abrahamic and > > Davidic covenants. A time of a restored earth where the faithful will > > worship and serve their God forever under the rulership of a righteous > > leader of the Davidic line. > > > Jesus also said that his kingdom is not of this world. He evolved Jewish thought at that time and in this time. He furthered the understanding of the soul, and how the soul transcended the body. The Romans at the time, were pretty much obsessed with the physical (not much has changed, has it?) Anyway, he came by example, by loving and forgiving, and transcending the body. Trouble was, all of his early followers (who were mostly Jewish) were killed, and Israel was destroyed, (the first Holocaust). The Jews were scattered, and when Rome adopted Christianity, and stripped of it any Jewishness, Made it into a Roman Play (same thing happened in Europe, with the Monarchies, making there own rules and translations, that served their political power, made it up as they went along, kind of like George Bush & Co.)- again, not much has changed! In the same way, Maharishi's kingdom is ultimately not of this world, Socrates kingdom was not of this world. Spirit is not material, you can't see it or touch it. Most people believe only what they can see and touch. Spirit, is not taught generally on TV, radio, Schools, University's and so forth. That is why Jesus' teaching is as revolutionary today, as it always was and always will be: it can't be institutionalized as much as the Bush & Rove have tried. Julius Caesar tried, John Kennedy tried... Ya, know, it might just not be possible to institutionalize Spirit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Maharishi your Primary Source of Biblcal Research and Scholarship?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > Jesus said, "The Kingdom of Heaven is within", also, > > "Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto > you". > > This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... > > Robert, s Maharishi your primary source of biblical scholarship these > translations an contextual meanings? > > If I were to ask you where in the Bible says this, and in what > context, could you cite chapter and verse without looking? > > Have you even read Luke 17 to see the context of the statement? > > Are you aware that kingdom of heaven is within can and has also been > translated as the "kingdom of god is amongst us", the reign of heaven > has come upon us. > > Are you aware that it is quite reasonable that "Jesus assumes his > hearers understand the Kingdom foundation that was laid in the Hebrew > Scriptures. When Jesus speaks of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven > ... he speaks of the time of the fulfillment of the Abrahamic and > Davidic covenants. A time of a restored earth where the faithful will > worship and serve their God forever under the rulership of a righteous > leader of the Davidic line. This was the Messianic hope of the > prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures and was carried over and echoed in > the words of John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter, Paul and others in the > Greek Scriptures. > > Can you cite any Christian tradition that feels that "kingdom of > heaven within" is a beacon call to transcend via TM? > > Was the passage in Luke 17 about the healing of 10 leepers in anyway > related to the KoH statement in verse 20? > > Does the fact that most of the remaining verses in Chapter 17 after > verses 20-21 are about when the Son of God would be revealed have > anything to do with V 20-21? > > I am sure you are answering yes to these questions, and have > insightful follow-ups for them. Can you share? I am really not a student of the Bible, per se... I've been more a student of Maharishi's teachings, and have also studied Tai Chi, and Babaji's Kriya Kundalini Pranayama. I have had past life readings, and was married to someone, my ex... Who was told she had direct contact with Jesus, so we used to do some readings to get a feel for Jesus' teachings, and the setting of the people, places and things. For example, I asked her one time, to go back in time, and remember how it felt, the afternoon that Jesus died... She simply replied, "The Rocks Cried!"... So, that kind of sums it up for me... Also, Maharishi's work, and his knowledge of the power of meditation to affect the environment, is completely line with the Utopian vision of the early Jews, and others who believed in the 'Oneness' principle. I hope that answers most of your inquires- feel free to follow up. As far as the call to transcend, I think God calls us all to transcend the ego, and serve the Higher Self. 'On earth as it is in Heaven, I think is an eloquent a way to put it.
