[FairfieldLife] Re: It's over for Obama

2008-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote:
> Funny, but I support Obama's preacher's words 
> almost to the letter.
>
"God Damn America." 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's over for Obama

2008-03-14 Thread Louis McKenzie
The First Amendement applies to what?   THere is only one truth that he says 
that I hope has changed.  Even from 2006 to 2008 change is possible so I pray 
that the fact that AMerica would never elect and African AMerican President is 
not true.  That in this time it can and will.

Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Funny, but I support Obama's preacher's 
words almost to the letter.

And, given that for the first time in history we have an African
American man as a possible candidate who has an actual chance to win
the nom, I'd say that a hell of a lot of whites -- look at Bush's
approval ratings -- are able to see the United States for the war
mongering, war profiteering, private criminal enterprise that BushCo
has created, and that Obama's preacher is just saying it like it is.

If you want to stomp on Obama, here's some real meat and potatoes: 
consider his possible harmony with the goals of the Council of Foreign
Relations. He may be listening to his preacher, but it seems he's
being tutored by the CFR too. Don't know for sure; read this:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/150807CFR.htm

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Ed" wrote:
> >
> > Politicians have used this trick forever. Tie a lead to the 
> > statements of someone who supports him and drag them along in the 
> > dirt til they stop movin. Too bad the Dems didn't tie Bush to the 
> > Klan or the Father of the Killers of Ryan White in Laramie 
> > WY.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The big difference here, Mr. Ed, is that Bush wasn't a member of the 
> Klan nor was he associated with the killers of Ryan White.
> 
> Obama is not just associated with Wright, he has been a very 
> instrumental part of his life for the past 20 years apparently.
> 
> And, no, it's simply NOT going to be enough to say: I disassociate 
> myself from Wright and his remarks. For goodness sake's, Obama has 
> been going to this guy's Church for so, so many years. This reflects 
> on his judgement in a way that so seriously calls into question his 
> ability to be president if he could go to such a man's church for so 
> long and have such an influence on his life (according to Obama 
> himself).
> 
> The Democratic Party simply will NOT let this stand. I would even 
> suspect that many, many committed Obama delegates won't vote for him 
> at the convention.
> 
> He's toast and Hillary is the candidate.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > ...Might not have helped. Like the Greeks once noted---what 
> > good is Democracy if your bread n circus oriented populace is 
> largely 
> > happily uniformed.
> > 
> > The Right is watching the Hillary/Barack War and diggin it. I worry 
> > those precious few who haven't already made up their minds might 
> > start seeing those 'Solid Republican's' and see safety from the 
> chaos 
> > of the volatile, multifarious democratsand now I'm 
> > pontificating...anyhoo.I MISS JOHN EDWARDS! :) --- In 
> > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" wrote:
> > >
> > > If the facts in this article are true, not only will he not be 
> > > elected president, he won't get the nomination REGARDLESS of how 
> > many 
> > > delegates he has.
> > > 
> > > -
> > > 
> > > from: http://tinyurl.com/2xtfub
> > > 
> > > OPINION 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Obama and the Minister
> > > By RONALD KESSLER
> > > March 14, 2008; Page A19
> > > 
> > > In a sermon delivered at Howard University, Barack Obama's 
> longtime 
> > > minister, friend and adviser blamed America for starting the AIDS 
> > > virus, training professional killers, importing drugs and 
> creating 
> > a 
> > > racist society that would never elect a black candidate president.
> > > 
> > > The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor of Mr. Obama's Trinity 
> > United 
> > > Church of Christ in Chicago, gave the sermon at the school's 
> Andrew 
> > > Rankin Memorial Chapel in Washington on Jan. 15, 2006.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Trinity United Church of Christ/Religion News Service 
> > > Sen. Barack Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright 
> > > "We've got more black men in prison than there are in college," 
> he 
> > > began. "Racism is alive and well. Racism is how this country was 
> > > founded and how this country is still run. No black man will ever 
> > be 
> > > considered for president, no matter how hard you run Jesse 
> > [Jackson] 
> > > and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside 
> what 
> > > she can give with her body."
> > > 
> > > Mr. Wright thundered on: "America is still the No. 1 killer in 
> the 
> > > world. . . . We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, 
> the 
> > > exporting of guns, and the training of professional killers . . . 
> > We 
> > > bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children 
> > while 
> > > trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and 
> > Ghadhafi . . . 
> > > We put [Nels

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's over for Obama

2008-03-14 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Funny, but I support Obama's preacher's words almost to the letter.

What better proof do the readers of FFL need to confirm my prediction 
that it is over for Obama: Duveyoung supports Obama's preacher "almost 
to the letter".

Yes, this is the ONLY demographic that will now support Obama: the 
Duveyoung Demographic, for lack of a better term.

And that is why the Democratic Party will do everything in its power to 
not allow Obama to ascend to the nomination.  It just can't if the only 
people to vote for him will be the Duveyoung's of the world (the 
nutcase demographic is 5% of the population at best).

It's a losing proposition.



[FairfieldLife] Re: It's over for Obama

2008-03-14 Thread Duveyoung
Funny, but I support Obama's preacher's words almost to the letter.

And, given that for the first time in history we have an African
American man as a possible candidate who has an actual chance to win
the nom, I'd say that a hell of a lot of whites  -- look at Bush's
approval ratings -- are able to see the United States for the war
mongering, war profiteering, private criminal enterprise that BushCo
has created, and that Obama's preacher is just saying it like it is.

If you want to stomp on Obama, here's some real meat and potatoes: 
consider his possible harmony with the goals of the Council of Foreign
Relations.  He may be listening to his preacher, but it seems he's
being tutored by the CFR too.  Don't know for sure; read this:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/150807CFR.htm

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Ed"  wrote:
> >
> > Politicians have used this trick forever. Tie a lead to the 
> > statements of someone who supports him and drag them along in the 
> > dirt til they stop movin. Too bad the Dems didn't tie Bush to the 
> > Klan or the Father of the Killers of Ryan White in Laramie 
> > WY.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The big difference here, Mr. Ed, is that Bush wasn't a member of the 
> Klan nor was he associated with the killers of Ryan White.
> 
> Obama is not just associated with Wright, he has been a very 
> instrumental part of his life for the past 20 years apparently.
> 
> And, no, it's simply NOT going to be enough to say: I disassociate 
> myself from Wright and his remarks.  For goodness sake's, Obama has 
> been going to this guy's Church for so, so many years.  This reflects 
> on his judgement in a way that so seriously calls into question his 
> ability to be president if he could go to such a man's church for so 
> long and have such an influence on his life (according to Obama 
> himself).
> 
> The Democratic Party simply will NOT let this stand.  I would even 
> suspect that many, many committed Obama delegates won't vote for him 
> at the convention.
> 
> He's toast and Hillary is the candidate.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > ...Might not have helped. Like the Greeks once noted---what 
> > good is Democracy if your bread n circus oriented populace is 
> largely 
> > happily uniformed.
> > 
> > The Right is watching the Hillary/Barack War and diggin it. I worry 
> > those precious few who haven't already made up their minds might 
> > start seeing those 'Solid Republican's' and see safety from the 
> chaos 
> > of the volatile, multifarious democratsand now I'm 
> > pontificating...anyhoo.I MISS JOHN EDWARDS! :) --- In 
> > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> > >
> > > If the facts in this article are true, not only will he not be 
> > > elected president, he won't get the nomination REGARDLESS of how 
> > many 
> > > delegates he has.
> > > 
> > > -
> > > 
> > > from: http://tinyurl.com/2xtfub
> > > 
> > > OPINION  
> > >   
> > > 
> > > Obama and the Minister
> > > By RONALD KESSLER
> > > March 14, 2008; Page A19
> > > 
> > > In a sermon delivered at Howard University, Barack Obama's 
> longtime 
> > > minister, friend and adviser blamed America for starting the AIDS 
> > > virus, training professional killers, importing drugs and 
> creating 
> > a 
> > > racist society that would never elect a black candidate president.
> > > 
> > > The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor of Mr. Obama's Trinity 
> > United 
> > > Church of Christ in Chicago, gave the sermon at the school's 
> Andrew 
> > > Rankin Memorial Chapel in Washington on Jan. 15, 2006.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > Trinity United Church of Christ/Religion News Service  
> > > Sen. Barack Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright 
> > > "We've got more black men in prison than there are in college," 
> he 
> > > began. "Racism is alive and well. Racism is how this country was 
> > > founded and how this country is still run. No black man will ever 
> > be 
> > > considered for president, no matter how hard you run Jesse 
> > [Jackson] 
> > > and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside 
> what 
> > > she can give with her body."
> > > 
> > > Mr. Wright thundered on: "America is still the No. 1 killer in 
> the 
> > > world. . . . We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, 
> the 
> > > exporting of guns, and the training of professional killers . . . 
> > We 
> > > bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children 
> > while 
> > > trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and 
> > Ghadhafi . . . 
> > > We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the 
> whole 
> > > 27 years he was there. We believe in white supremacy and black 
> > > inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God."
> > > 
> > > His voice rising, Mr. Wright said, "We supported Zionism 
> > shamelessly 
> > > whil