[FairfieldLife] Re: "It is a farce. It is absurd. It is an insult to all intelligent people. It

2008-09-17 Thread feste37
I agree with every word Andrew Sullivan writes. And that Salon article
someone posted is devastating. Sarah is not only an incompetent, a
know-nothing, and a serial liar, she is one mean bitch, too!! How long
can she last? All the way to the White House, no doubt, because
America seems to have ceased demanding anything from its leaders other
than empty slogans and relentless fear-mongering. How did all this
happen to a great country? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> 
> 
>  From The Sunday Times
> September 14, 2008
> 
> Sarah Palin: the most underqualified vice-president ever?
> 
> Andrew Sullivan
> 
> To read Camille Paglia's opposing opinion, click in the links panel,  
> below left
> 
> For the past two weeks serious commentators and columnists have been  
> asked to take the candidacy of Sarah Palin for the vice-presidency of  
> the United States seriously.
> 
> Formerly sane people have written of the McCain campaign’s selection  
> of this running mate as if it represents a new face for  
> Republicanism, an emblem of can-do western spirit, a brilliant ploy  
> to win over Clinton voters, a new feminism, a reformist revolution,  
> and a genius appeal to the religious right.
> 
> I’m afraid I cannot join in. In fact I cannot say anything about  
> this candidacy that takes it in any way seriously. It is a farce. It  
> is absurd. It is an insult to all intelligent people. It is a sign of  
> a candidate who has lost his mind. There is no way to take the  
> nomination of Palin to be vice-president of the world’s sole  
> superpower - except to treat it as a massive, unforgivable,  
> inexplicable decision by someone who has either gone insane or is  
> managerially unfit to be president of the United States. When, at  
> some point, the hysteria dies down, even her supporters will realise  
> that, by this decision, McCain has rendered himself unfit to run a  
> branch of Starbucks, let alone the White House.
> 
> Isn’t she doing well in the polls? Hasn’t she rattled the Obama  
> campaign? Yes, she is. And yes, she has, a little. But review the  
> extraordinary facts on the table about this woman and you will see  
> how ephemeral this will soon turn out to be.
> 
> The announcement of Palin was made more than two weeks ago. It took a  
> fortnight for her to agree to sit down for an intimate interview of  
> the kind usually reserved for Hollywood stars instead of the press  
> conference typical of a new vice-presidential candidate. This has  
> never happened in American political history. Even Dan Quayle, the  
> least qualified vice-presidential nominee before Palin, and a man who  
> did not know how to spell “potato”, gave a press conference a day  
> after the convention in 1988.
> 
> There have been two explanations for this astonishing Putin-style  
> decision to keep a vice-presidential candidate from the press. The  
> first was that the press would be too mean to her and needed to show,  
> in campaign manager Rick Davis’s word, sufficient “deference”  
> before they would be allowed to ask her a question. Deference? Is  
> 21st-century America an 18th-century monarchy? The press owes such a  
> total unknown who could be president next January deference?
> 
> The second explanation is that she needed time to cram for the exam.  
> The McCain camp knew she had never expressed any views about foreign  
> policy. And the only time she had on record was to oppose the surge  
> that is the centrepiece of McCain’s campaign. They knew she knew  
> nothing and was utterly unqualified to be president at a moment’s  
> notice. And so she spent the last week furiously prepping. As Maureen  
> Dowd noticed, she is Eliza Doolittle to John McCain’s Henry Higgins.
> 
> But at the end of last week we were granted an audience with the  
> Princess of Alaska. It was painful. She had no idea what the Bush  
> Doctrine was â€" the central and most controversial foreign policy  
> innovation of the past eight years: the doctrine of preemption  
> against states with WMDs. Moreover, in her speech the same day, she  
> described the war in Iraq. She said her eldest son, who has just  
> enlisted, would “defend the innocent from the enemies who planned  
> and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans”.
> 
> Does Palin believe that the men who planned and carried out the 9/11  
> attack are in Iraq? The hijackers are all dead, but Bin Laden and  
> Zawahiri and the rest of the gang are, as far as we know, in  
> Pakistan. Nobody believes they are in Iraq.
> 
> Then we have the now mountain of lies that follow Palin everywhere  
> she goes, lies she keeps repeating as if they are not subject to  
> factual scrutiny. In her first interview she said it was common for  
> vice-presidential candidates never to have met a single foreign  
> leader. Untrue. Every living vice-presidential candidate has met some

[FairfieldLife] Re: "It is a farce. It is absurd. It is an insult to all intelligent people. It

2008-09-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> These pundits may have a lot of things to say against Palin.  But 
> they don't appear to change the poll standings in the red states.  
> These states are still for a Republican ticket.
> 
> Ms. Fiorina, ex-CEO of Hewlitt Packard, said in an article that 
> neither Palin nor McCain are qualified to run a big corporation like 
> HP.  And, Fiorina is an adviser to the Republican campaign.  
> 
> 

She also said that Obama and Biden weren't qualified either.


Given her OWN record, I wonder who she thinks IS qualified?

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/IndustryInfo/story?id=2546914


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: "It is a farce. It is absurd. It is an insult to all intelligent people. It

2008-09-17 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > These pundits may have a lot of things to say against Palin.  But 
> > they don't appear to change the poll standings in the red 
states.  
> > These states are still for a Republican ticket.
> > 
> > Ms. Fiorina, ex-CEO of Hewlitt Packard, said in an article that 
> > neither Palin nor McCain are qualified to run a big corporation 
like 
> > HP.  And, Fiorina is an adviser to the Republican campaign.  
> > 
> > 
> 
> She also said that Obama and Biden weren't qualified either.
> 
> 
> Given her OWN record, I wonder who she thinks IS qualified?
> 

Fiorina's comment shows that she is better than all of the candidates 
and that she should be the president of the USA.  This also reveals 
one of the reasons why Hewlitt Packard got rid of her.





 http://abcnews.go.com/Business/IndustryInfo/story?id=2546914
> 
> 
> Lawson
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: "It is a farce. It is absurd. It is an insult to all intelligent people. It

2008-09-17 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:44 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >>
> >> These pundits may have a lot of things to say against Palin.  But
> >> they don't appear to change the poll standings in the red states.
> >> These states are still for a Republican ticket.
> >>
> >> Ms. Fiorina, ex-CEO of Hewlitt Packard, said in an article that
> >> neither Palin nor McCain are qualified to run a big corporation 
like
> >> HP.  And, Fiorina is an adviser to the Republican campaign.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > She also said that Obama and Biden weren't qualified either.
> >
> >
> > Given her OWN record, I wonder who she thinks IS qualified?
> 
> 
> She has incredible appeal in rural areas, often by people who 
listen  
> to enough news to hear she was the VP pick, some "yay, a woman!"  
> soundbites and who hear little of the later commentary. I meet 
people  
> like that every day. The same ones who tell me "I HATE that 
Michael  
> Moore" but when I ask which of his movies they've seen, they've 
never  
> seen even one. The same ones who believe global climate change is 
a  
> hoax, and when I ask them if they've seen Al Gore's movie say "I 
HATE  
> Al Gore". Nope, never saw his movie either.
> 
> There's a huge opening for what "everyday women" would consider a  
> 'real woman's feminist', you know the ones who can't stand Hillary 
and  
> don't trust career politicians--and many see Palin as representing  
> that figure. Many DID want a woman but despised Hillary. I've 
never  
> seen such hatred.
> 
> What they sadly don't realize, Palin ain't the woman they want.
>

Palin is running strictly on "image".  In politics, image is 
EVERYTHING, to borrow a phrase from Andre Agassi's commercial.





[FairfieldLife] Re: "It is a farce. It is absurd. It is an insult to all intelligent people. It

2008-09-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > These pundits may have a lot of things to say against Palin.  But 
> > > they don't appear to change the poll standings in the red 
> states.  
> > > These states are still for a Republican ticket.
> > > 
> > > Ms. Fiorina, ex-CEO of Hewlitt Packard, said in an article that 
> > > neither Palin nor McCain are qualified to run a big corporation 
> like 
> > > HP.  And, Fiorina is an adviser to the Republican campaign.  
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > She also said that Obama and Biden weren't qualified either.
> > 
> > 
> > Given her OWN record, I wonder who she thinks IS qualified?
> > 
> 
> Fiorina's comment shows that she is better than all of the candidates 
> and that she should be the president of the USA.  This also reveals 
> one of the reasons why Hewlitt Packard got rid of her.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  http://abcnews.go.com/Business/IndustryInfo/story?id=2546914
> > 


Yeah, the article above that refers to the "pestilential culture that she 
created at the company" certainly backs up your evaluation.

Lawson






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "It is a farce. It is absurd. It is an insult to all intelligent people. It

2008-09-17 Thread Vaj


On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:44 PM, sparaig wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


These pundits may have a lot of things to say against Palin.  But
they don't appear to change the poll standings in the red states.
These states are still for a Republican ticket.

Ms. Fiorina, ex-CEO of Hewlitt Packard, said in an article that
neither Palin nor McCain are qualified to run a big corporation like
HP.  And, Fiorina is an adviser to the Republican campaign.




She also said that Obama and Biden weren't qualified either.


Given her OWN record, I wonder who she thinks IS qualified?



She has incredible appeal in rural areas, often by people who listen  
to enough news to hear she was the VP pick, some "yay, a woman!"  
soundbites and who hear little of the later commentary. I meet people  
like that every day. The same ones who tell me "I HATE that Michael  
Moore" but when I ask which of his movies they've seen, they've never  
seen even one. The same ones who believe global climate change is a  
hoax, and when I ask them if they've seen Al Gore's movie say "I HATE  
Al Gore". Nope, never saw his movie either.


There's a huge opening for what "everyday women" would consider a  
'real woman's feminist', you know the ones who can't stand Hillary and  
don't trust career politicians--and many see Palin as representing  
that figure. Many DID want a woman but despised Hillary. I've never  
seen such hatred.


What they sadly don't realize, Palin ain't the woman they want.




[FairfieldLife] Re: "It is a farce. It is absurd. It is an insult to all intelligent people. It is a sign of a candidate who has lost his mind."

2008-09-17 Thread John
These pundits may have a lot of things to say against Palin.  But 
they don't appear to change the poll standings in the red states.  
These states are still for a Republican ticket.

Ms. Fiorina, ex-CEO of Hewlitt Packard, said in an article that 
neither Palin nor McCain are qualified to run a big corporation like 
HP.  And, Fiorina is an adviser to the Republican campaign.  





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> 
>  From The Sunday Times
> September 14, 2008
> 
> Sarah Palin: the most underqualified vice-president ever?
> 
> Andrew Sullivan
> 
> To read Camille Paglia's opposing opinion, click in the links 
panel,  
> below left
> 
> For the past two weeks serious commentators and columnists have 
been  
> asked to take the candidacy of Sarah Palin for the vice-presidency 
of  
> the United States seriously.
> 
> Formerly sane people have written of the McCain campaign’s 
selection  
> of this running mate as if it represents a new face for  
> Republicanism, an emblem of can-do western spirit, a brilliant 
ploy  
> to win over Clinton voters, a new feminism, a reformist 
revolution,  
> and a genius appeal to the religious right.
> 
> I’m afraid I cannot join in. In fact I cannot say anything about  
> this candidacy that takes it in any way seriously. It is a farce. 
It  
> is absurd. It is an insult to all intelligent people. It is a sign 
of  
> a candidate who has lost his mind. There is no way to take the  
> nomination of Palin to be vice-president of the world’s sole  
> superpower - except to treat it as a massive, unforgivable,  
> inexplicable decision by someone who has either gone insane or is  
> managerially unfit to be president of the United States. When, at  
> some point, the hysteria dies down, even her supporters will 
realise  
> that, by this decision, McCain has rendered himself unfit to run a  
> branch of Starbucks, let alone the White House.
> 
> Isn’t she doing well in the polls? Hasn’t she rattled the 
Obama  
> campaign? Yes, she is. And yes, she has, a little. But review the  
> extraordinary facts on the table about this woman and you will see  
> how ephemeral this will soon turn out to be.
> 
> The announcement of Palin was made more than two weeks ago. It took 
a  
> fortnight for her to agree to sit down for an intimate interview 
of  
> the kind usually reserved for Hollywood stars instead of the press  
> conference typical of a new vice-presidential candidate. This has  
> never happened in American political history. Even Dan Quayle, the  
> least qualified vice-presidential nominee before Palin, and a man 
who  
> did not know how to spell “potato”, gave a press conference a 
day  
> after the convention in 1988.
> 
> There have been two explanations for this astonishing Putin-style  
> decision to keep a vice-presidential candidate from the press. The  
> first was that the press would be too mean to her and needed to 
show,  
> in campaign manager Rick Davis’s word, sufficient 
“deference”  
> before they would be allowed to ask her a question. Deference? Is  
> 21st-century America an 18th-century monarchy? The press owes such 
a  
> total unknown who could be president next January deference?
> 
> The second explanation is that she needed time to cram for the 
exam.  
> The McCain camp knew she had never expressed any views about 
foreign  
> policy. And the only time she had on record was to oppose the 
surge  
> that is the centrepiece of McCain’s campaign. They knew she knew  
> nothing and was utterly unqualified to be president at a 
moment’s  
> notice. And so she spent the last week furiously prepping. As 
Maureen  
> Dowd noticed, she is Eliza Doolittle to John McCain’s Henry 
Higgins.
> 
> But at the end of last week we were granted an audience with the  
> Princess of Alaska. It was painful. She had no idea what the Bush  
> Doctrine was â€" the central and most controversial foreign policy  
> innovation of the past eight years: the doctrine of preemption  
> against states with WMDs. Moreover, in her speech the same day, 
she  
> described the war in Iraq. She said her eldest son, who has just  
> enlisted, would “defend the innocent from the enemies who 
planned  
> and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of 
Americans”.
> 
> Does Palin believe that the men who planned and carried out the 
9/11  
> attack are in Iraq? The hijackers are all dead, but Bin Laden and  
> Zawahiri and the rest of the gang are, as far as we know, in  
> Pakistan. Nobody believes they are in Iraq.
> 
> Then we have the now mountain of lies that follow Palin everywhere  
> she goes, lies she keeps repeating as if they are not subject to  
> factual scrutiny. In her first interview she said it was common 
for  
> vice-presidential candidates never to have met a single foreign  
> leader. Untrue. Every living vice-presidential candidate has met 
some  
> foreign leaders bef

[FairfieldLife] Re: "It is a farce. It is absurd. It is an insult to all intelligent people. It is a sign of a candidate who has lost his mind."

2008-09-17 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> 
> 
>  From The Sunday Times
> September 14, 2008
> 
> Sarah Palin: the most underqualified vice-president ever?
> 
> Andrew Sullivan
> 

Unfortunately, she's got that charisma comparable to
the same of, say, Der Führer.  : /