[FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-08 Thread andrasayer
Bhagavan Kalki and his wife Amma are current teachers from southern 
India who have trained people to offer Diksha. Diksha is most simply 
put, a teacher putting his hands on the head of someone for a minute 
or so, and the student receives grace. My first experience of it was 
that it was pleasant, and since then each experience becomes more and 
more profound. Pure awareness becomes predominant and while the mind 
is there (or not), it is not running the show and the identity is not 
with the mind. Chakras become very enlivened, can be quite ecstatic, 
and pure consciousness is felt very concretely in the body. Very 
powerful experiences of the Divine are enlivened. They are the kind 
of experiences that I have had with the TM program on long courses; 
they are all experiences consistant with expansion of Self. The 
Diksha giver is simply a channel for enlivening wholeness. 

Bhagavan and Amma have taught many Indians, and in the past decade 
have started teaching westerners as well. They have a 21 day course 
where people can go after which they can offer Diksha. Check out 
www.livinginjoy.com if you want to read people's experiences. It 
seems clear that many people are getting enlightened and the time it 
takes is not very long. The first westerner who met Bhagavan about 10 
years ago says he was in the witness state for quite awhile (as a 
result of Bhagavan), and when he received his first Diksha about 2 
years ago (Diksha just started being offered 2 years ago), he reached 
the oneness state (our unity) after 4 Dikshas. There have been a few 
who were enlightened after one Diksha they say.

Bhagavan is not looking to be people's guru and does not have alot of 
teachings. Mainly he wants to offer Diksha,  bring people to 
enlightenment. He says for people to continue with their own religion 
and teachings. The TM folks I know who are receiving Diksha are 
having fabulous experiences. I originally went to a Diksha meeting 
because I heard they could help heal physical aches and pains, and it 
definately does have a good effect on the body. It really accelerates 
experience of pure consciousness/the Divine, for me.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9/2/05 6:14 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  1) What or who is Kalki?
 
 http://www.experiencefestival.com/kalki
  
  2) Where and what is Maharishi's Ashram?
 
 Vlodrop
  
  3) What is PK?  Is it Panchakarma?
 
 Yes 
  
  4) What or who is Diksha?
 
 A spiritual transmission or Shaktipat they do.
  
  5) Who is David Morgen?
 
 An early (wealthy) founder of the TM Movement. Was he mentioned in 
this
 post?
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  From a friend:
  
  My friend knows Joques well enough so that he called him on a
  number of
  ocasions. I saw Joques there at Guru Purnima. To be more acurate,
  he still
  lives in MMY's ashram, in house number 7, along with his wife and
  daughter.
  
  There are lots of rumors going around about Joques. I was on PK 
in
  Lelystadt
  and there was Joques. The techs told me he was giving diksha 
(also
  spelled
  deeksha). They said it was good. maybe about half the people in
  Lelystaddt
  took diksha, and about 22 people or more from Lelystadt went to
  india for
  the 21 day course
  
  My friend was receiveing all sorts of info so he called Joques 
and
  asked-
  hey I hear you are no longer in the movement. Joques responded
  that he just
  talked to MMY the other day. Joques voluntarily gave up his post,
  acording
  to what he told my friend. He told MMY all about Kalki and MMY
  aparantly
  said he is fully aware of what is going on there. Joques 
suppsedly
  said
  Kalki offered all that he knows to MMY- MMY responded that now we
  have  our
  program for peace palaces.
  
  Jacques is also on a video for Kalkis group - the head tech at
  Lelystadt
  showed it to me. Joques was saying that  a friend called him and
  said - you
  know, instead of going throough 30-40 years of sadana, you can 
get
  instant
  Enlightenment - this sort of thing
  
  So, this is the sentiment that Joques was presenting in the 
video.
  also in
  the video was David Morgen.
  
  I would think just as MMY describes how children want to know
  everyting,
  many in the movement will want to have a first hand experiece 
with
  Kalki. My
  friend said half the place was loaded with tm ers  but I think
  that is
  probably an exageration. excuse spelling errors, I dont type as
  fast as you.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-03 Thread medwards520
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 What's this Living in Joy scene all about? Anybody here done this?
 
 Thanks.
 
This group has been around for a while. That's what they're saying at
their Web sites. I thought they were just another meditation group,
however, when I began reading the experiences column, the stories
people shared are impressive. If I decide to check them out, I'll give
FFL a report. Here's another site: http://onenessuniversity.org/news.htm

Peace,
Marc

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread medwards520
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From a friend:
 
 My friend knows Joques well enough so that he called him on a number of
 ocasions. I saw Joques there at Guru Purnima. To be more acurate, he
still
 lives in MMY's ashram, in house number 7, along with his wife and
daughter.
 
 There are lots of rumors going around about Joques. I was on PK in
Lelystadt
 and there was Joques. The techs told me he was giving diksha (also
spelled
 deeksha). They said it was good. maybe about half the people in
Lelystaddt
 took diksha, and about 22 people or more from Lelystadt went to
india for
 the 21 day course
 
 My friend was receiveing all sorts of info so he called Joques and
asked-
 hey I hear you are no longer in the movement. Joques responded that
he just
 talked to MMY the other day. Joques voluntarily gave up his post,
acording
 to what he told my friend. He told MMY all about Kalki and MMY aparantly
 said he is fully aware of what is going on there. Joques suppsedly said
 Kalki offered all that he knows to MMY- MMY responded that now we
have  our
 program for peace palaces.
 
This is interesting. I would think MMY would want to join forces with
this group. It would be a win win situation for both. 

 Jacques is also on a video for Kalkis group - the head tech at Lelystadt
 showed it to me. Joques was saying that  a friend called him and
said - you
 know, instead of going throough 30-40 years of sadana, you can get
instant
 Enlightenment - this sort of thing
 
I would think that a certain of sadana would be necessary in order to
achieve permananent awakening. I've been reading the experiences folks
have been having at livinginjoy.com. Here's one that may be of
interest to our members at FFL:

http://www.livinginjoy.com/en/exp/2829

also you might want to checkout the experiences of one of the teachers:

http://www.livinginjoy.com/en/library/170

Start from the bottom and work you way up. The diksha is something
that may help long term meditators to awaken. 

Peace,
Marc

 So, this is the sentiment that Joques was presenting in the video.
also in
 the video was David Morgen.
 
 I would think just as MMY describes how children want to know everyting,
 many in the movement will want to have a first hand experiece with
Kalki. My
 friend said half the place was loaded with tm ers  but I think that is
 probably an exageration. excuse spelling errors, I dont type as fast
as you.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread medwards520
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From a friend:
 
 My friend knows Joques well enough so that he called him on a
number of
 ocasions. I saw Joques there at Guru Purnima. To be more acurate, he
still
 lives in MMY's ashram, in house number 7, along with his wife and
daughter.
 
 There are lots of rumors going around about Joques. I was on PK in
Lelystadt
 and there was Joques. The techs told me he was giving diksha (also
spelled
 deeksha). They said it was good. maybe about half the people in
Lelystaddt
 took diksha, and about 22 people or more from Lelystadt went to
india for
 the 21 day course
 
 My friend was receiveing all sorts of info so he called Joques and
asked-
 hey I hear you are no longer in the movement. Joques responded that
he just
 talked to MMY the other day. Joques voluntarily gave up his post,
acording
 to what he told my friend. He told MMY all about Kalki and MMY
aparantly
 said he is fully aware of what is going on there. Joques suppsedly
said
 Kalki offered all that he knows to MMY- MMY responded that now we
have  our
 program for peace palaces.
 
This is interesting. I would think MMY would want to join forces with
this group. It would be a win win situation for both. 

 Jacques is also on a video for Kalkis group - the head tech at
Lelystadt
 showed it to me. Joques was saying that  a friend called him and
said - you
 know, instead of going throough 30-40 years of sadana, you can get
instant
 Enlightenment - this sort of thing
 
I would think that seekers would have to put in a certain years doing
sadana would be necessary in order to achieve permananent awakening.
I've been reading the experiences folks have been having at
livinginjoy.com. Here's one that may be of
interest to our members at FFL:

http://www.livinginjoy.com/en/exp/2829

also you might want to checkout the experiences of one of the
teachers:

http://www.livinginjoy.com/en/library/170

Start from the bottom and work your way up. Diksha is something
that may help long term meditators to awaken. 

Peace,
Marc

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread Patrick Gillam
What's this Living in Joy scene all about? Anybody here done this?

Thanks.

 - Patrick Gillam

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, medwards520 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
--- 
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a 
friend:

 My friend knows Joques well enough so that he called him on a number of 
 ocasions. I saw Joques there at Guru Purnima. To be more acurate, he still 
 lives in MMY's ashram, in house number 7, along with his wife and daughter.
 
 There are lots of rumors going around about Joques. I was on PK in Lelystadt 
 and there was Joques. The techs told me he was giving diksha (also spelled 
 deeksha). They said it was good. maybe about half the people in Lelystaddt 
 took diksha, and about 22 people or more from Lelystadt went to india for 
 the 
 21 day course
 
 My friend was receiveing all sorts of info so he called Joques and asked- 
 hey 
 I hear you are no longer in the movement. Joques responded that he just 
 talked to MMY the other day. Joques voluntarily gave up his post, acording 
 to 
 what he told my friend. He told MMY all about Kalki and MMY aparantly said 
 he 
 is fully aware of what is going on there. Joques suppsedly said Kalki 
 offered 
 all that he knows to MMY- MMY responded that now we have  our program for 
 peace palaces.
 
 This is interesting. I would think MMY would want to join forces with this 
 group. It would be a win win situation for both.
 
 Jacques is also on a video for Kalkis group - the head tech at Lelystadt 
 showed it to me. Joques was saying that  a friend called him and said - you 
 know, instead of going throough 30-40 years of sadana, you can get instant 
 Enlightenment - this sort of thing
 
 I would think that a certain of sadana would be necessary in order to achieve 
 permananent awakening. I've been reading the experiences folks have been 
 having at livinginjoy.com. Here's one that may be of interest to our members 
 at FFL:
 
 http://www.livinginjoy.com/en/exp/2829
 
 also you might want to checkout the experiences of one of the teachers:
 
 http://www.livinginjoy.com/en/library/170
 
 Start from the bottom and work you way up. The diksha is something that may 
 help long term meditators to awaken.
 
 Peace, Marc
 
 So, this is the sentiment that Joques was presenting in the video. also in 
 the video was David Morgen.
 
 I would think just as MMY describes how children want to know everyting, 
 many 
 in the movement will want to have a first hand experiece with Kalki. My 
 friend said half the place was loaded with tm ers  but I think that is 
 probably an exageration. excuse spelling errors, I dont type as fast as you.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
1) What or who is Kalki?

2) Where and what is Maharishi's Ashram?

3) What is PK?  Is it Panchakarma?

4) What or who is Diksha?

5) Who is David Morgen?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From a friend:
 
 My friend knows Joques well enough so that he called him on a 
number of
 ocasions. I saw Joques there at Guru Purnima. To be more acurate, 
he still
 lives in MMY's ashram, in house number 7, along with his wife and 
daughter.
 
 There are lots of rumors going around about Joques. I was on PK in 
Lelystadt
 and there was Joques. The techs told me he was giving diksha (also 
spelled
 deeksha). They said it was good. maybe about half the people in 
Lelystaddt
 took diksha, and about 22 people or more from Lelystadt went to 
india for
 the 21 day course
 
 My friend was receiveing all sorts of info so he called Joques and 
asked-
 hey I hear you are no longer in the movement. Joques responded 
that he just
 talked to MMY the other day. Joques voluntarily gave up his post, 
acording
 to what he told my friend. He told MMY all about Kalki and MMY 
aparantly
 said he is fully aware of what is going on there. Joques suppsedly 
said
 Kalki offered all that he knows to MMY- MMY responded that now we 
have  our
 program for peace palaces.
 
 Jacques is also on a video for Kalkis group - the head tech at 
Lelystadt
 showed it to me. Joques was saying that  a friend called him and 
said - you
 know, instead of going throough 30-40 years of sadana, you can get 
instant
 Enlightenment - this sort of thing
 
 So, this is the sentiment that Joques was presenting in the video. 
also in
 the video was David Morgen.
 
 I would think just as MMY describes how children want to know 
everyting,
 many in the movement will want to have a first hand experiece with 
Kalki. My
 friend said half the place was loaded with tm ers  but I think 
that is
 probably an exageration. excuse spelling errors, I dont type as 
fast as you.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/2/05 6:14 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1) What or who is Kalki?

http://www.experiencefestival.com/kalki
 
 2) Where and what is Maharishi's Ashram?

Vlodrop
 
 3) What is PK?  Is it Panchakarma?

Yes 
 
 4) What or who is Diksha?

A spiritual transmission or Shaktipat they do.
 
 5) Who is David Morgen?

An early (wealthy) founder of the TM Movement. Was he mentioned in this
post?
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From a friend:
 
 My friend knows Joques well enough so that he called him on a
 number of
 ocasions. I saw Joques there at Guru Purnima. To be more acurate,
 he still
 lives in MMY's ashram, in house number 7, along with his wife and
 daughter.
 
 There are lots of rumors going around about Joques. I was on PK in
 Lelystadt
 and there was Joques. The techs told me he was giving diksha (also
 spelled
 deeksha). They said it was good. maybe about half the people in
 Lelystaddt
 took diksha, and about 22 people or more from Lelystadt went to
 india for
 the 21 day course
 
 My friend was receiveing all sorts of info so he called Joques and
 asked-
 hey I hear you are no longer in the movement. Joques responded
 that he just
 talked to MMY the other day. Joques voluntarily gave up his post,
 acording
 to what he told my friend. He told MMY all about Kalki and MMY
 aparantly
 said he is fully aware of what is going on there. Joques suppsedly
 said
 Kalki offered all that he knows to MMY- MMY responded that now we
 have  our
 program for peace palaces.
 
 Jacques is also on a video for Kalkis group - the head tech at
 Lelystadt
 showed it to me. Joques was saying that  a friend called him and
 said - you
 know, instead of going throough 30-40 years of sadana, you can get
 instant
 Enlightenment - this sort of thing
 
 So, this is the sentiment that Joques was presenting in the video.
 also in
 the video was David Morgen.
 
 I would think just as MMY describes how children want to know
 everyting,
 many in the movement will want to have a first hand experiece with
 Kalki. My
 friend said half the place was loaded with tm ers  but I think
 that is
 probably an exageration. excuse spelling errors, I dont type as
 fast as you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9/2/05 6:14 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  1) What or who is Kalki?
 
 http://www.experiencefestival.com/kalki
  
  2) Where and what is Maharishi's Ashram?
 
 Vlodrop


so this guy Jocques is seeing another Master AND living under the 
same roof as MMY?  Do I understand this right?



  
  3) What is PK?  Is it Panchakarma?
 
 Yes 
  
  4) What or who is Diksha?
 
 A spiritual transmission or Shaktipat they do.
  
  5) Who is David Morgen?
 
 An early (wealthy) founder of the TM Movement. Was he mentioned in 
this
 post?


Yes, see below...



  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  From a friend:
  
  My friend knows Joques well enough so that he called him on a
  number of
  ocasions. I saw Joques there at Guru Purnima. To be more 
acurate,
  he still
  lives in MMY's ashram, in house number 7, along with his wife 
and
  daughter.
  
  There are lots of rumors going around about Joques. I was on PK 
in
  Lelystadt
  and there was Joques. The techs told me he was giving diksha 
(also
  spelled
  deeksha). They said it was good. maybe about half the people in
  Lelystaddt
  took diksha, and about 22 people or more from Lelystadt went to
  india for
  the 21 day course
  
  My friend was receiveing all sorts of info so he called Joques 
and
  asked-
  hey I hear you are no longer in the movement. Joques responded
  that he just
  talked to MMY the other day. Joques voluntarily gave up his 
post,
  acording
  to what he told my friend. He told MMY all about Kalki and MMY
  aparantly
  said he is fully aware of what is going on there. Joques 
suppsedly
  said
  Kalki offered all that he knows to MMY- MMY responded that now 
we
  have  our
  program for peace palaces.
  
  Jacques is also on a video for Kalkis group - the head tech at
  Lelystadt
  showed it to me. Joques was saying that  a friend called him and
  said - you
  know, instead of going throough 30-40 years of sadana, you can 
get
  instant
  Enlightenment - this sort of thing
  
  So, this is the sentiment that Joques was presenting in the 
video.
  also in
  the video was David Morgen.
  
  I would think just as MMY describes how children want to know
  everyting,
  many in the movement will want to have a first hand experiece 
with
  Kalki. My
  friend said half the place was loaded with tm ers  but I think
  that is
  probably an exageration. excuse spelling errors, I dont type as
  fast as you.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/2/05 7:04 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 so this guy Jocques is seeing another Master AND living under the
 same roof as MMY?  Do I understand this right?

Yes. He's very valuable to the International Movement because he has a lot
of clout with government administrators and can get things done, such as new
building permits, etc.
 
 5) Who is David Morgan?
 
 An early (wealthy) founder of the TM Movement. Was he mentioned in
 this
 post?
 
 
 Yes, see below...

 also in
 the video was David Morgen.

Oh yeah. David was the first Westerner Maharishi initiated - in Bangkok I
believe when he first left India. He's an investment banker or something
like that and is very wealthy. I think he took one of the first
millionaire's courses.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9/2/05 7:04 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  so this guy Jocques is seeing another Master AND living under the
  same roof as MMY?  Do I understand this right?
 
 Yes. He's very valuable to the International Movement because he 
has a lot
 of clout with government administrators and can get things done, 
such as new
 building permits, etc.
  
  5) Who is David Morgan?
  
  An early (wealthy) founder of the TM Movement. Was he mentioned 
in
  this
  post?
  
  
  Yes, see below...
 
  also in
  the video was David Morgen.
 
 Oh yeah. David was the first Westerner Maharishi initiated - in 
Bangkok I
 believe when he first left India. He's an investment banker or 
something
 like that and is very wealthy. I think he took one of the first
 millionaire's courses.


So, these two TMers are playing footsie with other masters and are 
still in the good graces of MMY.

And you, Rick, can't fly in the Dome?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/2/05 7:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 So, these two TMers are playing footsie with other masters and are
 still in the good graces of MMY.
 
 And you, Rick, can't fly in the Dome?

What do you think would happen if I won the lottery and suddenly became a
multi-millionaire?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9/2/05 7:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  So, these two TMers are playing footsie with other masters and are
  still in the good graces of MMY.
  
  And you, Rick, can't fly in the Dome?
 
 What do you think would happen if I won the lottery and suddenly 
became a
 multi-millionaire?

Sadly, they'd give you the key to Dome City...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9/2/05 7:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  So, these two TMers are playing footsie with other masters and are
  still in the good graces of MMY.
  
  And you, Rick, can't fly in the Dome?
 
 What do you think would happen if I won the lottery and suddenly 
became a
 multi-millionaire?

Rick, old buddy, old pal...

But seriously, if you were willing to donate money to the TMO, they 
could be comfortable with the idea that you thought the yogic flying 
thing in the dome was important to keep pristine and all that --
otherwise, why would you bother?




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/2/05 11:24 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9/2/05 7:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 So, these two TMers are playing footsie with other masters and are
 still in the good graces of MMY.
 
 And you, Rick, can't fly in the Dome?
 
 What do you think would happen if I won the lottery and suddenly
 became a
 multi-millionaire?
 
 Rick, old buddy, old pal...
 
 But seriously, if you were willing to donate money to the TMO, they
 could be comfortable with the idea that you thought the yogic flying
 thing in the dome was important to keep pristine and all that --
 otherwise, why would you bother?

Please clarify your question. I'm not sure what you're asking.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kalki and Jacques Uijen, the former national leader of the Dutch TM Movement

2005-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9/2/05 11:24 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  on 9/2/05 7:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  So, these two TMers are playing footsie with other masters and 
are
  still in the good graces of MMY.
  
  And you, Rick, can't fly in the Dome?
  
  What do you think would happen if I won the lottery and suddenly
  became a
  multi-millionaire?
  
  Rick, old buddy, old pal...
  
  But seriously, if you were willing to donate money to the TMO, 
they
  could be comfortable with the idea that you thought the yogic 
flying
  thing in the dome was important to keep pristine and all that --
  otherwise, why would you bother?
 
 Please clarify your question. I'm not sure what you're asking.

Was a rhetorical question addressed to the hypothetical millionaire 
yogic flyer who donated large sums of money to the TMO while still 
following another guru.






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