[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree with Curtis and with others who said that
> > > the trouble with LSD was the "recreationalization"
> > > of the drug. It was a sacrament, and used as one,
> > > could lead to valuable insights -- about the world,
> > > about the self, and about Self. Like him, I never
> > > had anything but the most positive, uplifting 
> > > experiences during the period that I experimented
> > > with LSD, and have the greatest respect for it.
> > > I liken its "cheapening" as something to party
> > > down with to some callous youth finding a 200-year-
> > > old bottle of the finest cognac and seeing it only
> > > as a way to get drunk.
> > 
> > I always wondered what the therapeutic use might be,
> > it always seemed so confusing and so much never-the-same
> > thing-twice, perhaps it was the mind expanding sense of
> > greater reality that helped put things into perspective
> > for people. I sure never looked at the world the
> > same way.
> 
> I'm sure Cary didn't, either. I don't know any
> of the particulars of who his shrink might have
> been and whether he was successful using LSD in
> his practice with a large number of patients.
> But I can certainly see it as being possible.
> The phenomenon of "putting things into perspec-
> tive" alone would be invaluable to many people
> whose perspective had gotten skewed enough that
> they sought psychiatric counseling.
> 
> On the other hand, I would suspect that the 
> shrink in question had to be very, very careful
> about whom it was appropriate to use this kind
> of therapy *with*. I'm thinking it would be
> possibly appropriate with patients who were 
> dealing with neuroses and problems in their 
> daily lives, and hideously inappropriate with
> someone dealing with psychosis.
> 
> > But more likely the dose was smaller than you'd take
> > at one of Leary or Keseys' (or my) acid parties.
> 
> Actually, it wasn't so much the dosage but the
> purity. 125 micrograms of real Sandoz acid was
> far more powerful than "1000 mics" of street 
> acid. Kesey's parties (I only attended one of
> them) "served" Sandoz acid at the start, and
> later Owsley stuff, so they were pretty fun
> parties.  :-)
> 
> > I would like to have tried it in that context but I can't
> > see our recreational use as cheapening it, we had real God 
> > consciousness experiences, and the music helps, in fact
> > it's designed to take you as far as you can go.
> 
> Please forgive my overly harsh condemnation of
> "party acid" earlier. I was definitely includ-
> ing myself as one of the targets of that rant.
> Some friends of mine and I ran a light show and
> concert promotion business back in 1966-7, and 
> heck, we *worked* stoned on acid. :-) 


You worked! Jesus, the only technical thing I could do
was roll joints, no matter where we were or how wasted
we got I could always get a number together. What a
great skill! Saved the day many a time I can tell you.
I should put that on my C.V.

I remember you posted a list of bands you had at your
parties, It was good stuff. I would have loved to have
been there. Must've been great, I read Wolfes Kool aid-
acid test and felt I'd been born too late. But we made
the best of it with bands like the Ozric Tentacles who
had the most amazing light show. It was a blast.

I remember you had The Doors at a party they are probably
my fave band from then. Or Spirit perhaps , did you hear
their LP "The Twelve Dreams of Doctor Sardonicus", what
a classic. Or the earlier jazzy stuff they did. Highly 
recommended.




> I was also known to party down on acid more than 
> once during that period...uh...often in fact. Mea
> culpa. :-) It's just that in retrospect (the last
> time I took LSD was in 1967) I lament pissing away
> on a party what I could have used in the silence
> of the desert or a forest.
> 
> But hey!, as you say, the parties were fun, too.
> And the music just rocked.
> 
> > We all ended up kidding ourselves it was the "real"
> > reality that would somehow lead us to the promised land.
> > Didn't work of course, not for anyone. But you have to
> > follow every lead in my view. The problem comes, as it
> > does with all drugs, when you start taking it too seriously
> > and mistake the signpost for the destination. Or using it to
> > escape rather than arrive, That must be what Albert saw and
> > worried about.
> 
> I did the same thing. Unlike many who started TM
> at the same time I did, I didn't have to wait 15
> days. :-) I had stopped using psychedelics of any
> kind some months before, and had already been
> experimenting with other forms of meditation. 
> Stopping was a cultural thing more than a spiritual
> or health thing for me. I had literally been through
> the Summer Of Love in L.A. and San Francisco, and
> had seen the whole 

[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread mainstream20016
What, the image of the clown in your mirror ?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> mainstream wrote:
> > The world is as you are, Willy.
> > 
> It's here now, wasn't it?
> 
> Bob wrote:
> > > > "Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound 
> > > > lysergic acid...
> > > >
> > > Well, Bob, now we know that there at least eight, 
> > > including yourself, "drug addled clowns" posting 
> > > here! 
> > > 
> > > LOL!
> > > 
> > > Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> > > From: Bob Brigante
> > > Date: Wed, Jul 2 2003 1:45 pm
> > > Subject: Re: Meditation and Insomnia
> > > http://tinyurl.com/4h6ykx
> > >
> >
>





[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread Richard J. Williams
mainstream wrote:
> The world is as you are, Willy.
> 
It's here now, wasn't it?

Bob wrote:
> > > "Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound 
> > > lysergic acid...
> > >
> > Well, Bob, now we know that there at least eight, 
> > including yourself, "drug addled clowns" posting 
> > here! 
> > 
> > LOL!
> > 
> > Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> > From: Bob Brigante
> > Date: Wed, Jul 2 2003 1:45 pm
> > Subject: Re: Meditation and Insomnia
> > http://tinyurl.com/4h6ykx
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread mainstream20016
The world is as you are, Willy.


 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Bob wrote:
> > "Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound 
> > lysergic acid...
> >
> Well, Bob, now we know that there at least eight, 
> including yourself, "drug addled clowns" posting 
> here! 
> 
> LOL!
> 
> Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> From: Bob Brigante
> Date: Wed, Jul 2 2003 1:45 pm
> Subject: Re: Meditation and Insomnia
> http://tinyurl.com/4h6ykx
>





[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread ispiritkin
I'm addled enough without it.  ~ S

--- "Richard J. Williams" wrote:
> Well, Bob, now we know that there at least eight, 
> including yourself, "drug addled clowns" posting 
> here! 
> 
> LOL!




[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bob wrote:
> "Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound 
> lysergic acid...
>
Well, Bob, now we know that there at least eight, 
including yourself, "drug addled clowns" posting 
here! 

LOL!

Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: Bob Brigante
Date: Wed, Jul 2 2003 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: Meditation and Insomnia
http://tinyurl.com/4h6ykx



[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread mainstream20016
The most significant period of my life occurred at age 19, in late September, 
'73, during a 
two-week  stretch of a several week road trip with a high school buddy, the 
itinerary of 
which included nightly camping under the stars near flowing streams, and a 
daily drive of 
several hours between camp sites along a path from Colorado through the Great 
Northwest.  

 Friends in Manitou Springs introduced us to a woman who joined our trip.  A 
year older 
than my buddy and I, she was quite earthy and spiritual.  She introduced us to 
'Be Here 
Now', and was able to score windowpane on the morning we left Manitou Springs 
for the 
ascent into the Rockies.  That afternoon was the Autumnal Equinox. Aspen trees 
were 
changing colors for everyone's perception, whether altered or not.  The immense 
beauty 
of the mountains, streams, and trees was heightened by the full dose of 
windowpane 
kicking in to stimulate a recognition of the unity and harmony, and immense 
love that 
permeates creation.  For the next two weeks, as we traversed some of our 
countries most 
beautiful landscapes, I'd trip in the afternoons, and by the campfire we'd 
telepahtically 
communicate our understanding of 'Be Here Now'.   I'll always appreciate Mr. 
Hoffman for 
the waves of intense bliss that flowed through my heart and the lessons of 
spirituality I 
was introduced to during that time. 

 




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound lysergic acid 
> diethylamide in 1938 but did not discover its psychopharmacological 
> effects until five years later, when he accidentally ingested the 
> substance that became known to the 1960s counterculture as acid. 
> 
> He then took LSD hundreds of times, but regarded it as a powerful and 
> potentially dangerous psychotropic drug that demanded respect. More 
> important to him than the pleasures of the psychedelic experience was 
> the drug's value as a revelatory aid for contemplating and 
> understanding what he saw as humanity's oneness with nature. That 
> perception, of union, which came to Dr. Hofmann as almost a religious 
> epiphany while still a child, directed much of his personal and 
> professional life.
> 
> Dr. Hofmann was born in Baden, a spa town in northern Switzerland, on 
> Jan. 11, 1906, the eldest of four children. His father, who had no 
> higher education, was a toolmaker in a local factory, and the family 
> lived in a rented apartment. But Dr. Hofmann spent much of his 
> childhood outdoors.
> 
> He would wander the hills above the town and play around the ruins of 
> a Hapsburg castle, the Stein. "It was a real paradise up there," he 
> said in an interview in 2006. "We had no money, but I had a wonderful 
> childhood."
> 
> It was during one of his ambles that he had his epiphany.
> 
> "It happened on a May morning — I have forgotten the year — but I can 
> still point to the exact spot where it occurred, on a forest path on 
> Martinsberg above Baden," he wrote in "LSD: My Problem Child." "As I 
> strolled through the freshly greened woods filled with bird song and 
> lit up by the morning sun, all at once everything appeared in an 
> uncommonly clear light. 
> 
> "It shone with the most beautiful radiance, speaking to the heart, as 
> though it wanted to encompass me in its majesty. I was filled with an 
> indescribable sensation of joy, oneness and blissful security."
> 
> (more)
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/world/europe/30hofmann.html
>





[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Curtis and with others who said that
> > the trouble with LSD was the "recreationalization"
> > of the drug. It was a sacrament, and used as one,
> > could lead to valuable insights -- about the world,
> > about the self, and about Self. Like him, I never
> > had anything but the most positive, uplifting 
> > experiences during the period that I experimented
> > with LSD, and have the greatest respect for it.
> > I liken its "cheapening" as something to party
> > down with to some callous youth finding a 200-year-
> > old bottle of the finest cognac and seeing it only
> > as a way to get drunk.
> 
> I always wondered what the therapeutic use might be,
> it always seemed so confusing and so much never-the-same
> thing-twice, perhaps it was the mind expanding sense of
> greater reality that helped put things into perspective
> for people. I sure never looked at the world the
> same way.

I'm sure Cary didn't, either. I don't know any
of the particulars of who his shrink might have
been and whether he was successful using LSD in
his practice with a large number of patients.
But I can certainly see it as being possible.
The phenomenon of "putting things into perspec-
tive" alone would be invaluable to many people
whose perspective had gotten skewed enough that
they sought psychiatric counseling.

On the other hand, I would suspect that the 
shrink in question had to be very, very careful
about whom it was appropriate to use this kind
of therapy *with*. I'm thinking it would be
possibly appropriate with patients who were 
dealing with neuroses and problems in their 
daily lives, and hideously inappropriate with
someone dealing with psychosis.

> But more likely the dose was smaller than you'd take
> at one of Leary or Keseys' (or my) acid parties.

Actually, it wasn't so much the dosage but the
purity. 125 micrograms of real Sandoz acid was
far more powerful than "1000 mics" of street 
acid. Kesey's parties (I only attended one of
them) "served" Sandoz acid at the start, and
later Owsley stuff, so they were pretty fun
parties.  :-)

> I would like to have tried it in that context but I can't
> see our recreational use as cheapening it, we had real God 
> consciousness experiences, and the music helps, in fact
> it's designed to take you as far as you can go.

Please forgive my overly harsh condemnation of
"party acid" earlier. I was definitely includ-
ing myself as one of the targets of that rant.
Some friends of mine and I ran a light show and
concert promotion business back in 1966-7, and 
heck, we *worked* stoned on acid. :-) 

I was also known to party down on acid more than 
once during that period...uh...often in fact. Mea
culpa. :-) It's just that in retrospect (the last
time I took LSD was in 1967) I lament pissing away
on a party what I could have used in the silence
of the desert or a forest.

But hey!, as you say, the parties were fun, too.
And the music just rocked.

> We all ended up kidding ourselves it was the "real"
> reality that would somehow lead us to the promised land.
> Didn't work of course, not for anyone. But you have to
> follow every lead in my view. The problem comes, as it
> does with all drugs, when you start taking it too seriously
> and mistake the signpost for the destination. Or using it to
> escape rather than arrive, That must be what Albert saw and
> worried about.

I did the same thing. Unlike many who started TM
at the same time I did, I didn't have to wait 15
days. :-) I had stopped using psychedelics of any
kind some months before, and had already been
experimenting with other forms of meditation. 
Stopping was a cultural thing more than a spiritual
or health thing for me. I had literally been through
the Summer Of Love in L.A. and San Francisco, and
had seen the whole Hippie thing go down the toilet
as soon as the media got ahold of it. And I had
seen what the street drugs were doing to people,
and didn't want to be around it any more.

> It did make a good party great, you could save the analysis
> for when you got home. 

I analyzed even at the parties. I think that acid
was one of my first self-taught experiences of 
mindfulness. 

> Which we did, the best times
> tripping are when you're with people you like in cosy
> surroundings, good music etc. Best of all on a summer day
> out in the country on magic mushrooms, got a real connection
> with nature, it's like the same movie but with different 
> cinemaphotography.

Good metaphor. Did you see the film "What Dreams
May Come?" That's the first acid-like cinematography 
that popped into my mind when you mentioned it, but
now that I think about it, Antonioni's "Blow-up"
might have been more acid.

> It made me wonder that there was some greater power
> connecting everything together for a tiny little piece
> of fungus to have that sort of effect on you. I've see

[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
>  wrote:
> >
> > After breathing the solvents he had used produced no effect, 
Hofmann 
> > suspected that the synthetic drug was the source. "LSD spoke to 
me," 
> > he said. "He came to me and said, 'You must find me.' He told 
> > me, 'Don't give me to the pharmacologist, he won't find 
anything.' "
> > 
> > "A peculiar pre-sentiment" - One of those intuitive
> > moments where the unconcious mind seems to know more about
> > what's going on than you do. 
> > 
> > Like Francis Crick dreaming of spiral staircases when
> > he was stuck on working out how DNA reproduced itself.
> > One of the greatest flashes of inspiration. But rumour
> > has it that when he was on his death-bed he admitted
> > the inspiration came to him during an acid trip.
> 
> Here's an interesting piece of American celebrity
> lore that I always found interesting. Picture Cary
> Grant, right? The quintessence of outgoing charm, 
> poise, elegance, and savoir faire, even though he
> started life as Archie Leach in a poor neighborhood
> in England. Well, as it turns out, Cary Grant drop-
> ped acid 2-3 times a week for much of his adult life
> under the care of his psychiatrist, a rebel who 
> "came up" during the early psychedelic revolution 
> with Leary and Alpert, and who never abandoned his 
> belief that it (LSD) could be a powerful and bene-
> ficial psychiatric tool. It would appear, given the 
> generally positive response that most people have 
> to the vibe of his long-term patient, that he was 
> correct.
> 
> I agree with Curtis and with others who said that
> the trouble with LSD was the "recreationalization"
> of the drug. It was a sacrament, and used as one,
> could lead to valuable insights -- about the world,
> about the self, and about Self. Like him, I never
> had anything but the most positive, uplifting 
> experiences during the period that I experimented
> with LSD, and have the greatest respect for it.
> I liken its "cheapening" as something to party
> down with to some callous youth finding a 200-year-
> old bottle of the finest cognac and seeing it only
> as a way to get drunk.
>

I always wondered what the therapeutic use might be,
it always seemed so confusing and so much never-the-same
thing-twice, perhaps it was the mind expanding sense of
greater reality that helped put things into perspective
for people. I sure never looked at the world the
same way.

But more likely the dose was smaller than you'd take
at one of Leary or Keseys' (or my) acid parties.
I would like to have tried it in that context but I can't
see our recreational use as cheapening it, we had real God 
consciousness experiences, and the music helps, in fact
it's designed to take you as far as you can go.

We all ended up kidding ourselves it was the "real"
reality that would somehow lead us to the promised land.
Didn't work of course, not for anyone. But you have to
follow every lead in my view. The problem comes, as it
does with all drugs, when you start taking it too seriously
and mistake the signpost for the destination. Or using it to
escape rather than arrive, That must be what Albert saw and
worried about.

It did make a good party great, you could save the analysis
for when you got home. Which we did, the best times
tripping are when you're with people you like in cosy
surroundings, good music etc. Best of all on a summer day
out in the country on magic mushrooms, got a real connection
with nature, it's like the same movie but with different 
cinemaphotography.

It made me wonder that there was some greater power
connecting everything together for a tiny little piece
of fungus to have that sort of effect on you. I've seen
clouds turn into the most beautiful living statues
of Greek Gods and dragons coiled round the moon, 
battalions of tigers chasing across the sky at sunset.
I could go on but I'm sure you get the general idea.

Cheapening or not, it was the best of times. Perhaps 
the true sacrament is the mind and hallucinogenics
just one of the keys to unlock it.

 





[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here's an interesting piece of American celebrity
> lore that I always found interesting. Picture Cary
> Grant, right? The quintessence of outgoing charm, 
> poise, elegance, and savoir faire, even though he
> started life as Archie Leach in a poor neighborhood
> in England. Well, as it turns out, Cary Grant drop-
> ped acid 2-3 times a week for much of his adult life

Sorry...mistype. Make that 2-3 times a month.





[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> After breathing the solvents he had used produced no effect, Hofmann 
> suspected that the synthetic drug was the source. "LSD spoke to me," 
> he said. "He came to me and said, 'You must find me.' He told 
> me, 'Don't give me to the pharmacologist, he won't find anything.' "
> 
> "A peculiar pre-sentiment" - One of those intuitive
> moments where the unconcious mind seems to know more about
> what's going on than you do. 
> 
> Like Francis Crick dreaming of spiral staircases when
> he was stuck on working out how DNA reproduced itself.
> One of the greatest flashes of inspiration. But rumour
> has it that when he was on his death-bed he admitted
> the inspiration came to him during an acid trip.

Here's an interesting piece of American celebrity
lore that I always found interesting. Picture Cary
Grant, right? The quintessence of outgoing charm, 
poise, elegance, and savoir faire, even though he
started life as Archie Leach in a poor neighborhood
in England. Well, as it turns out, Cary Grant drop-
ped acid 2-3 times a week for much of his adult life
under the care of his psychiatrist, a rebel who 
"came up" during the early psychedelic revolution 
with Leary and Alpert, and who never abandoned his 
belief that it (LSD) could be a powerful and bene-
ficial psychiatric tool. It would appear, given the 
generally positive response that most people have 
to the vibe of his long-term patient, that he was 
correct.

I agree with Curtis and with others who said that
the trouble with LSD was the "recreationalization"
of the drug. It was a sacrament, and used as one,
could lead to valuable insights -- about the world,
about the self, and about Self. Like him, I never
had anything but the most positive, uplifting 
experiences during the period that I experimented
with LSD, and have the greatest respect for it.
I liken its "cheapening" as something to party
down with to some callous youth finding a 200-year-
old bottle of the finest cognac and seeing it only
as a way to get drunk.





[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-05-01 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> Another good piece in the LAT (you probably need to register for 
> free):
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/3tqkld
>


Thanks Bob, this article had the bit of the story I love:

"But testing in experimental animals showed no significant activity 
for the drug -- although the animals were observed to become restless 
after its administration -- and it was abandoned. 

During this period, Hofmann synthesized at least three amides that 
became drugs: Methergine, used to halt bleeding after birth; 
Hydergine, which improves circulation in the limbs and cerebral 
function in the elderly; and Dihydergot, used to stabilize 
circulation and blood pressure. 

Prompted by what Hofmann later described as a "peculiar presentiment" 
that LSD-25 might have properties other than those established in the 
first investigations, he decided to look at it again. 

On Friday afternoon, April 16, 1943, Hofmann had just completed 
synthesizing a new batch when, he subsequently wrote to his 
supervisor, "I was forced to interrupt my work in the laboratory in 
the middle of the afternoon and proceed home, being affected by a 
remarkable restlessness, combined with slight dizziness. 

"At home, I lay down and sank into a not-unpleasant intoxicated-like 
condition, characterized by an extremely stimulated imagination. In a 
dreamlike state I perceived an uninterrupted stream of fantastic 
pictures, extraordinary shapes with intense, kaleidoscopic play of 
colors. After some two hours, this condition faded away." 

Hofmann suspected that the state had been caused by something in the 
lab. In an interview on his 100th birthday, he said, "I didn't know 
what caused it, but I knew that it was important." 

After breathing the solvents he had used produced no effect, Hofmann 
suspected that the synthetic drug was the source. "LSD spoke to me," 
he said. "He came to me and said, 'You must find me.' He told 
me, 'Don't give me to the pharmacologist, he won't find anything.' "


"A peculiar pre-sentiment" - One of those intuitive
moments where the unconcious mind seems to know more about
what's going on than you do. 

Like Francis Crick dreaming of spiral staircases when
he was stuck on working out how DNA reproduced itself.
One of the greatest flashes of inspiration. But rumour
has it that when he was on his death-bed he admitted
the inspiration came to him during an acid trip.





[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-04-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Good old Albert, Rest in Peace dude.
> 
> That's a really good obit, with lots I didn't know,
> like the epiphany he had as a child. And the "bicycle day"
> celebration among acid-heads, wouldn't fancy riding a
> bike under the influence mind you.
> 
> Ah, I get nostalgic thinking about the great times 
> I had thanks to Alb and his freaky, synchronicitous
> discovery. It was an essential part of the spiritual
> path for me. Opens the mind to the possibilites of
> infinite consciousness. It's a shame the path of excess
> doesn't really lead to the palace of wisdom, but there
> is some marvellous scenery on the way. Shame it doesn't
> mix with the meditation but you can't have everything.
> 
> I was going to call my autobiography:
> 
> "Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall"
> 
> But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke.


I would have. I doff my hat to the man as well.
He gave me my first glimpse of Unity, from a 
bottle that still had his company's label on it.
( Should they go under, I will doff my hat to
the passing of Sandoz as well. )





[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-04-30 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  
> wrote:
> >
> > "Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound lysergic acid 
> > diethylamide in 1938 but did not discover its 
psychopharmacological 
> > effects until five years later, when he accidentally ingested the 
> > substance that became known to the 1960s counterculture as acid. 
> > 
> > He then took LSD hundreds of times, but regarded it as a powerful 
> and 
> > potentially dangerous psychotropic drug that demanded respect. 
More 
> > important to him than the pleasures of the psychedelic experience 
> was 
> > the drug's value as a revelatory aid for contemplating and 
> > understanding what he saw as humanity's oneness with nature. That 
> > perception, of union, which came to Dr. Hofmann as almost a 
> religious 
> > epiphany while still a child, directed much of his personal and 
> > professional life.
> > 
> > Dr. Hofmann was born in Baden, a spa town in northern 
Switzerland, 
> on 
> > Jan. 11, 1906, the eldest of four children. His father, who had 
no 
> > higher education, was a toolmaker in a local factory, and the 
> family 
> > lived in a rented apartment. But Dr. Hofmann spent much of his 
> > childhood outdoors.
> > 
> > He would wander the hills above the town and play around the 
ruins 
> of 
> > a Hapsburg castle, the Stein. "It was a real paradise up there," 
he 
> > said in an interview in 2006. "We had no money, but I had a 
> wonderful 
> > childhood."
> > 
> > It was during one of his ambles that he had his epiphany.
> > 
> > "It happened on a May morning — I have forgotten the year — but I 
> can 
> > still point to the exact spot where it occurred, on a forest path 
> on 
> > Martinsberg above Baden," he wrote in "LSD: My Problem 
Child." "As 
> I 
> > strolled through the freshly greened woods filled with bird song 
> and 
> > lit up by the morning sun, all at once everything appeared in an 
> > uncommonly clear light. 
> > 
> > "It shone with the most beautiful radiance, speaking to the 
heart, 
> as 
> > though it wanted to encompass me in its majesty. I was filled 
with 
> an 
> > indescribable sensation of joy, oneness and blissful security."
> > 
> > (more)
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/world/europe/30hofmann.html
> >
> 
> 
> Good old Albert, Rest in Peace dude.
> 
> That's a really good obit, with lots I didn't know,
> like the epiphany he had as a child. And the "bicycle day"
> celebration among acid-heads, wouldn't fancy riding a
> bike under the influence mind you.
> 
> Ah, I get nostalgic thinking about the great times 
> I had thanks to Alb and his freaky, synchronicitous
> discovery. It was an essential part of the spiritual
> path for me. Opens the mind to the possibilites of
> infinite consciousness. It's a shame the path of excess
> doesn't really lead to the palace of wisdom, but there
> is some marvellous scenery on the way. Shame it doesn't
> mix with the meditation but you can't have everything.
> 
> I was going to call my autobiography:
> 
> "Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall"
> 
> But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke.
>


**

Another good piece in the LAT (you probably need to register for 
free):

http://tinyurl.com/3tqkld



[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-04-30 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
> >
> > --CNN report on Salvia Divinorum, a legal psychotropic plant, 
> > available in some cities and on the internet: from Wiki...:
> 
> I vote this the most obnoxious drug ever.  There is no experiential
> comparison between its effects and that of the other hallucinogens.
> Or so I've read...

I watched several YouTube videos of people's salvia trips and decided
that doing salvia is an experience I can happily do without.



[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-04-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --CNN report on Salvia Divinorum, a legal psychotropic plant, 
> available in some cities and on the internet: from Wiki...:

I vote this the most obnoxious drug ever.  There is no experiential
comparison between its effects and that of the other hallucinogens.
Or so I've read...



> 
> Salvia divinorum
> Epling & J¨¢tiva[1] 
> Salvia divinorum, also known as Diviner¡¯s Sage,[2] ska Mar¨ªa Pastora,
> [3] Sage of the Seers, or simply by the genus name, Salvia, is a 
> powerful psychoactive herb. It is a member of the sage genus and the 
> Lamiaceae (mint) family.[4] The Latin name Salvia divinorum literally 
> translates to ¡°sage of the seers¡±.[5] The genus name Salvia is 
> derived from the Latin salvare, meaning ¡°to heal¡± or ¡°to save¡±.[6]
> 
> Salvia divinorum has a long continuing tradition of use as an 
> entheogen by indigenous Mazatec shamans, who use it to facilitate 
> visionary states of consciousness during spiritual healing sessions.
> [1] The plant is found in isolated, shaded, and moist plots in 
> Oaxaca, Mexico. It grows to well over a meter in height, has large 
> green leaves, and hollow square stems with occasional white and 
> purple flowers. It is thought to be a cultigen.[7]
> 
> Its primary psychoactive constituent is a diterpenoid known as 
> salvinorin A[8][9]¡ªa potent ¦Ê-opioid receptor agonist. Salvinorin A 
> is unique in that it is the only naturally occurring substance known 
> to induce a visionary state this way. Salvia divinorum can be chewed, 
> smoked, or taken as a tincture to produce experiences ranging from 
> uncontrollable laughter to much more intense and profoundly altered 
> states. The duration is much shorter than for some other more well 
> known psychedelics; the effects of smoked salvia typically last for 
> only a few minutes. The most commonly reported after-effects include 
> an increased feeling of insight and improved mood, and a sense of 
> calmness and increased sense of connection with nature¡ªthough much 
> less often it may also cause dysphoria (unpleasant or uncomfortable 
> mood).[10] Salvia divinorum is not generally understood to be toxic 
> or addictive. As a ¦Ê-opioid agonist, it may have potential as an 
> analgesic and as therapy for drug addictions.
> 
> Salvia divinorum has become increasingly well-known and more widely 
> available in modern culture. The rise of the Internet since the 1990s 
> has seen the growth of many businesses selling live salvia plants, 
> dried leaves, extracts, and other preparations. During this time 
> medical experts and accident and emergency rooms have not been 
> reporting cases that suggest particular health concerns, and police 
> have not been reporting it as a significant issue with regard to 
> public order offences. Yet Salvia divinorum has attracted increasing 
> attention from the media and some lawmakers.
> 
> Media stories generally raise alarms over salvia¡¯s legal status, 
> headlining, for example, with not necessarily well-supported 
> comparisons to LSD. Parental concerns are raised by focus on salvia¡¯s 
> use by younger teens¡ªthe emergence of YouTube videos purporting to 
> depict its use being an area of particular concern in this respect. 
> The isolated and controversial case of Brett Chidester, a 17-year-old 
> Delaware student who committed suicide in January 2006, has received 
> continued attention. He reportedly purchased salvia from a Canadian-
> based Internet company some four months prior to taking his own life; 
> his parents consequently blame this for his death. Salvia divinorum 
> remains legal in most countries and, within the United States, legal 
> in the majority of states. However, some have called for its 
> prohibition. Most proposed bills have not made it into law, with 
> motions having been voted down in committee, failed, died, or 
> otherwise stalled. Other more recent bills are as yet still at the 
> early proposal stage. There have not been any publicised prosecutions 
> of anti-salvia laws in the few countries and states where it has been 
> made illegal.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > > I was going to call my autobiography:
> > > 
> > > "Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall"
> > > 
> > > But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > I've never had a negative experience from his work.  But I have 
> gained
> > much insight during periods in my life when changing my mind to the
> > core was valuable.
> > 
> > The tragic loss caused by trivializing psychedelic drugs is to
> > psychotherapy where tools like this have such unutilized potential. 
> > Thanks to the foolish evangelism of Tim Leary and US drug policies
> > which are shaped by lobbiests, cash, and puritanism rather than
> > rational insight.  I suspect it will be left to future generations 
> to
> > uncover the true value of his disco

[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-04-30 Thread yifuxero
--CNN report on Salvia Divinorum, a legal psychotropic plant, 
available in some cities and on the internet: from Wiki...:

Salvia divinorum
Epling & J¨¢tiva[1] 
Salvia divinorum, also known as Diviner¡¯s Sage,[2] ska Mar¨ªa Pastora,
[3] Sage of the Seers, or simply by the genus name, Salvia, is a 
powerful psychoactive herb. It is a member of the sage genus and the 
Lamiaceae (mint) family.[4] The Latin name Salvia divinorum literally 
translates to ¡°sage of the seers¡±.[5] The genus name Salvia is 
derived from the Latin salvare, meaning ¡°to heal¡± or ¡°to save¡±.[6]

Salvia divinorum has a long continuing tradition of use as an 
entheogen by indigenous Mazatec shamans, who use it to facilitate 
visionary states of consciousness during spiritual healing sessions.
[1] The plant is found in isolated, shaded, and moist plots in 
Oaxaca, Mexico. It grows to well over a meter in height, has large 
green leaves, and hollow square stems with occasional white and 
purple flowers. It is thought to be a cultigen.[7]

Its primary psychoactive constituent is a diterpenoid known as 
salvinorin A[8][9]¡ªa potent ¦Ê-opioid receptor agonist. Salvinorin A 
is unique in that it is the only naturally occurring substance known 
to induce a visionary state this way. Salvia divinorum can be chewed, 
smoked, or taken as a tincture to produce experiences ranging from 
uncontrollable laughter to much more intense and profoundly altered 
states. The duration is much shorter than for some other more well 
known psychedelics; the effects of smoked salvia typically last for 
only a few minutes. The most commonly reported after-effects include 
an increased feeling of insight and improved mood, and a sense of 
calmness and increased sense of connection with nature¡ªthough much 
less often it may also cause dysphoria (unpleasant or uncomfortable 
mood).[10] Salvia divinorum is not generally understood to be toxic 
or addictive. As a ¦Ê-opioid agonist, it may have potential as an 
analgesic and as therapy for drug addictions.

Salvia divinorum has become increasingly well-known and more widely 
available in modern culture. The rise of the Internet since the 1990s 
has seen the growth of many businesses selling live salvia plants, 
dried leaves, extracts, and other preparations. During this time 
medical experts and accident and emergency rooms have not been 
reporting cases that suggest particular health concerns, and police 
have not been reporting it as a significant issue with regard to 
public order offences. Yet Salvia divinorum has attracted increasing 
attention from the media and some lawmakers.

Media stories generally raise alarms over salvia¡¯s legal status, 
headlining, for example, with not necessarily well-supported 
comparisons to LSD. Parental concerns are raised by focus on salvia¡¯s 
use by younger teens¡ªthe emergence of YouTube videos purporting to 
depict its use being an area of particular concern in this respect. 
The isolated and controversial case of Brett Chidester, a 17-year-old 
Delaware student who committed suicide in January 2006, has received 
continued attention. He reportedly purchased salvia from a Canadian-
based Internet company some four months prior to taking his own life; 
his parents consequently blame this for his death. Salvia divinorum 
remains legal in most countries and, within the United States, legal 
in the majority of states. However, some have called for its 
prohibition. Most proposed bills have not made it into law, with 
motions having been voted down in committee, failed, died, or 
otherwise stalled. Other more recent bills are as yet still at the 
early proposal stage. There have not been any publicised prosecutions 
of anti-salvia laws in the few countries and states where it has been 
made illegal.




- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I was going to call my autobiography:
> > 
> > "Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall"
> > 
> > But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke.
> >
> 
> 
> I've never had a negative experience from his work.  But I have 
gained
> much insight during periods in my life when changing my mind to the
> core was valuable.
> 
> The tragic loss caused by trivializing psychedelic drugs is to
> psychotherapy where tools like this have such unutilized potential. 
> Thanks to the foolish evangelism of Tim Leary and US drug policies
> which are shaped by lobbiests, cash, and puritanism rather than
> rational insight.  I suspect it will be left to future generations 
to
> uncover the true value of his discovery.  Till then it will remain 
as
> just a way to make the repetitive boring folk jams of the Dead
> palatable to alternative college kids.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > "Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound lysergic acid 
> > > diethylamide in 1938 but did not 

[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-04-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
> I was going to call my autobiography:
> 
> "Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall"
> 
> But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke.
>


I've never had a negative experience from his work.  But I have gained
much insight during periods in my life when changing my mind to the
core was valuable.

The tragic loss caused by trivializing psychedelic drugs is to
psychotherapy where tools like this have such unutilized potential. 
Thanks to the foolish evangelism of Tim Leary and US drug policies
which are shaped by lobbiests, cash, and puritanism rather than
rational insight.  I suspect it will be left to future generations to
uncover the true value of his discovery.  Till then it will remain as
just a way to make the repetitive boring folk jams of the Dead
palatable to alternative college kids.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  
> wrote:
> >
> > "Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound lysergic acid 
> > diethylamide in 1938 but did not discover its psychopharmacological 
> > effects until five years later, when he accidentally ingested the 
> > substance that became known to the 1960s counterculture as acid. 
> > 
> > He then took LSD hundreds of times, but regarded it as a powerful 
> and 
> > potentially dangerous psychotropic drug that demanded respect. More 
> > important to him than the pleasures of the psychedelic experience 
> was 
> > the drug's value as a revelatory aid for contemplating and 
> > understanding what he saw as humanity's oneness with nature. That 
> > perception, of union, which came to Dr. Hofmann as almost a 
> religious 
> > epiphany while still a child, directed much of his personal and 
> > professional life.
> > 
> > Dr. Hofmann was born in Baden, a spa town in northern Switzerland, 
> on 
> > Jan. 11, 1906, the eldest of four children. His father, who had no 
> > higher education, was a toolmaker in a local factory, and the 
> family 
> > lived in a rented apartment. But Dr. Hofmann spent much of his 
> > childhood outdoors.
> > 
> > He would wander the hills above the town and play around the ruins 
> of 
> > a Hapsburg castle, the Stein. "It was a real paradise up there," he 
> > said in an interview in 2006. "We had no money, but I had a 
> wonderful 
> > childhood."
> > 
> > It was during one of his ambles that he had his epiphany.
> > 
> > "It happened on a May morning — I have forgotten the year — but I 
> can 
> > still point to the exact spot where it occurred, on a forest path 
> on 
> > Martinsberg above Baden," he wrote in "LSD: My Problem Child." "As 
> I 
> > strolled through the freshly greened woods filled with bird song 
> and 
> > lit up by the morning sun, all at once everything appeared in an 
> > uncommonly clear light. 
> > 
> > "It shone with the most beautiful radiance, speaking to the heart, 
> as 
> > though it wanted to encompass me in its majesty. I was filled with 
> an 
> > indescribable sensation of joy, oneness and blissful security."
> > 
> > (more)
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/world/europe/30hofmann.html
> >
> 
> 
> Good old Albert, Rest in Peace dude.
> 
> That's a really good obit, with lots I didn't know,
> like the epiphany he had as a child. And the "bicycle day"
> celebration among acid-heads, wouldn't fancy riding a
> bike under the influence mind you.
> 
> Ah, I get nostalgic thinking about the great times 
> I had thanks to Alb and his freaky, synchronicitous
> discovery. It was an essential part of the spiritual
> path for me. Opens the mind to the possibilites of
> infinite consciousness. It's a shame the path of excess
> doesn't really lead to the palace of wisdom, but there
> is some marvellous scenery on the way. Shame it doesn't
> mix with the meditation but you can't have everything.
> 
> I was going to call my autobiography:
> 
> "Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall"
> 
> But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-04-30 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> "Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound lysergic acid 
> diethylamide in 1938 but did not discover its psychopharmacological 
> effects until five years later, when he accidentally ingested the 
> substance that became known to the 1960s counterculture as acid. 
> 
> He then took LSD hundreds of times, but regarded it as a powerful 
and 
> potentially dangerous psychotropic drug that demanded respect. More 
> important to him than the pleasures of the psychedelic experience 
was 
> the drug's value as a revelatory aid for contemplating and 
> understanding what he saw as humanity's oneness with nature. That 
> perception, of union, which came to Dr. Hofmann as almost a 
religious 
> epiphany while still a child, directed much of his personal and 
> professional life.
> 
> Dr. Hofmann was born in Baden, a spa town in northern Switzerland, 
on 
> Jan. 11, 1906, the eldest of four children. His father, who had no 
> higher education, was a toolmaker in a local factory, and the 
family 
> lived in a rented apartment. But Dr. Hofmann spent much of his 
> childhood outdoors.
> 
> He would wander the hills above the town and play around the ruins 
of 
> a Hapsburg castle, the Stein. "It was a real paradise up there," he 
> said in an interview in 2006. "We had no money, but I had a 
wonderful 
> childhood."
> 
> It was during one of his ambles that he had his epiphany.
> 
> "It happened on a May morning — I have forgotten the year — but I 
can 
> still point to the exact spot where it occurred, on a forest path 
on 
> Martinsberg above Baden," he wrote in "LSD: My Problem Child." "As 
I 
> strolled through the freshly greened woods filled with bird song 
and 
> lit up by the morning sun, all at once everything appeared in an 
> uncommonly clear light. 
> 
> "It shone with the most beautiful radiance, speaking to the heart, 
as 
> though it wanted to encompass me in its majesty. I was filled with 
an 
> indescribable sensation of joy, oneness and blissful security."
> 
> (more)
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/world/europe/30hofmann.html
>


Good old Albert, Rest in Peace dude.

That's a really good obit, with lots I didn't know,
like the epiphany he had as a child. And the "bicycle day"
celebration among acid-heads, wouldn't fancy riding a
bike under the influence mind you.

Ah, I get nostalgic thinking about the great times 
I had thanks to Alb and his freaky, synchronicitous
discovery. It was an essential part of the spiritual
path for me. Opens the mind to the possibilites of
infinite consciousness. It's a shame the path of excess
doesn't really lead to the palace of wisdom, but there
is some marvellous scenery on the way. Shame it doesn't
mix with the meditation but you can't have everything.

I was going to call my autobiography:

"Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall"

But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke.




[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102

2008-04-30 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bob Brigante wrote:
> LSD chemist dies at 102
>
Yes, but did you enjoy? 

The trouble with relying on a drug-addled 
clown like Bob for one's meditation 
instruction is that this approach is as 
full of holes as Bob's brain after a 
lifetime of drug use. Apparently Bob 
has more potions in his medicine 
cabinet that Carter had 'little liver 
pills'. 

"I also received the "Night Technique," 
which is no longer taught by the TM 
movement, and it's important to 
understand that Willytex's instruction 
is not accurate." 

Read more:

Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: Bob Brigante
Date: Wed, Jul 2 2003 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: Meditation and Insomnia
http://tinyurl.com/4h6ykx

All this being said, it is difficult, 
if not impossible, to explain absolute 
rest to the understanding of the 
non-initiate, yet, so important is this
aspect of life, that when Davendra fell 
out of 'bramhacharya' and confessed to 
actually sleeping with a woman one night, 
Maharishi asked:

"Yes, but did you enjoy?" 

Read more:

Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: Willytex
Date: Wed, Nov 20 2002 12:32 am
Subject: Good Night Sweetheart
http://tinyurl.com/63tb8n

My intiation with Satyanand took place 
at a three-day residence course with 
Jerry Jarvis at SIMS in Berkeley in 
1968. The entire course was truly 
inspiring as I recall, and the initation 
included a very deep five minute 
meditation led by Satyanand and concluded 
with one of the most impressive Guru Dev 
pujas that I have ever personally 
attended. As for the technique per se, 
and after much practice, analysis, and 
reflection on its meaning, I have 
concluded that this *night* technique 
is the *perfect* compliment to TM.  

Read more:

Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: Willytex
Date: Tues, Jun 11 2002 7:30 pm
Subject: Advanced Techniques
http://tinyurl.com/5zzqjq