[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube to Barry, Steve, Alex

2013-01-12 Thread laughinggull108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27  wrote:

 Where do you think he fits in?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo

Steve, I believe that our Rick Archer has interviewed this guy over at 
batgap.com.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108  wrote:
  
   From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got 
   his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone?
   
   http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
  
  Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine.

Your perspective and insights are always interesting to me regardless of 
whether I ask for them or not. I don't always agree but I enjoy reading them.

  Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The
  Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on
  fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act.
  
  What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I 
  don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed,
  is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the
  way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi. 
  
  The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi
  spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when 
  someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating? 
  
  What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO
  remarkably like the act they fell for and followed
  for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably 
  because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti. 
  
  OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy
  is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by
  the fact that those who piled onto him lack the
  discrimination to notice that most people in the
  world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly
  the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the
  same act, after all. 
  
  They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy,
  or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of
  us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY
  as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of
  saint or holy man. 
  
  Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME,
  try going back and listening to this video again,
  but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's
  presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on
  video, especially towards the end of his life when
  he was already heavily into his King Lear period. 
  
  Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi 
  did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious
  minds want to know...

This Matthew Reifslager guy is fascinating to me in a weird kind of way (maybe 
like watching a train wreck) because I can't believe that anyone would fall for 
his shtick. I wonder if it's a whole 'nother ballgame being in his presence? 
Anyway, upon further googling, I came across the name of Jennine Fellmer who 
seems to be Director of Expansion for The Wholeness Enterprise. I remember 
Jennine as one of the die-hards of the TMO at MUM and now her name no longer 
appears in the MUM directory. Alex (or anyone else in Fairfield), did she 
defect to Matthew's group?



[FairfieldLife] Re: MSAE graduate on youtube to Barry, Steve, Alex

2013-01-12 Thread seventhray27

Every so often I listen to one of his videos, or a portion of one.  He
sounds good, he sounds genuine.  Personally I think it's neat that
people hang out an enlightenment shingle.  If you believe in the idea of
enlightenment, as I do, then why not.

I mean, I am past having any interest in following a teacher like that,
but I think that many may find something useful there.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:
 
  Where do you think he fits in?
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDa6nScKbKo

 Steve, I believe that our Rick Archer has interviewed this guy over at
batgap.com.

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 wrote:
   
From TMFree, apparently a graduate of MSAE who's got
his own little thing going. Thoughts anyone?
   
http://youtu.be/T1V_JD9rODk
  
   Since you asked for thoughts, here are mine.

 Your perspective and insights are always interesting to me regardless
of whether I ask for them or not. I don't always agree but I enjoy
reading them.

   Clearly, people here ( especially the members of The
   Clique, who must have been saving up for a pile-on
   fest ) didn't think much of this guy's act.
  
   What struck me as *obvious*, and something that I
   don't think any of the detractors seem to have noticed,
   is that his act -- meaning his way of speaking, the
   way he moves and talks, etc. -- is pure Maharishi.
  
   The SAME people who creamed their jeans when Maharishi
   spoke and acted this way don't seem to like it when
   someone else does it. Isn't that fascinating?
  
   What they perceive as charlatanry in this guy is IMO
   remarkably like the act they fell for and followed
   for decades in a short, fat Indian guy, probably
   because he was Indian and wearing a dhoti.
  
   OF COURSE I agree with the detractors that this guy
   is a fruitcake. It's just that I'm more amused by
   the fact that those who piled onto him lack the
   discrimination to notice that most people in the
   world would react to *Maharishi* speaking exactly
   the same way they're reacting to this guy. It's the
   same act, after all.
  
   They sound amazed that anyone would follow this guy,
   or pay to hear him speak. Well, that's how many of
   us feel when we hear TMers still talking about MMY
   as if he were special, or unique, or some sort of
   saint or holy man.
  
   Before overreacting to this post and piling on ME,
   try going back and listening to this video again,
   but this time noticing the similarities in this guy's
   presentation to the way Maharishi used to speak on
   video, especially towards the end of his life when
   he was already heavily into his King Lear period.
  
   Why is it OK and the highest teaching when Maharishi
   did it, but charlatanry when this guy does it? Curious
   minds want to know...

 This Matthew Reifslager guy is fascinating to me in a weird kind of
way (maybe like watching a train wreck) because I can't believe that
anyone would fall for his shtick. I wonder if it's a whole 'nother
ballgame being in his presence? Anyway, upon further googling, I came
across the name of Jennine Fellmer who seems to be Director of Expansion
for The Wholeness Enterprise. I remember Jennine as one of the die-hards
of the TMO at MUM and now her name no longer appears in the MUM
directory. Alex (or anyone else in Fairfield), did she defect to
Matthew's group?