[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> Perhaps one day she'll realize that her beloved Hillary was
> a very poor candidate who didn't deserve to win. Hillary is like a
> woman who entered a 10K road race, was given a 5K start, and still
> managed to lose the race. Quite an achievement.

Too funny. Anything to try to obscure the fact
that Hillary got 18 million votes in the primary,
half the Democratic voters.

The Obamazoids have to fantasize that she was "a
very poor candidate" or that she "failed miserably,"
as poor Barry keeps claiming. I think it was
mainstream who said in another recent post that the
Democratic Party did everything it could to help her
win!




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote:
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:30 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools
>
>  
>
>   
>> My bet is that Rick 
>> 
> invited her here out of pity. 
>
> I invited her because she and I were arguing politics on the side, and I
> didn't have the time nor talent for it, so I thought I'd let you guys have
> at her, and vice versa. Besides, I like to stir the FFL pot.
I pay about as much attention to her as I do Willytex which is to say 
she's in the troll lane.  Only when things are slow do I ever bother 
with Willy.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Perhaps one day she'll realize that her beloved Hillary was
> a very poor candidate who didn't deserve to win. Hillary is 
> like a woman who entered a 10K road race, was given a 5K 
> start, and still managed to lose the race. Quite an 
> achievement. 

Yeah, but that's because Obama cheated. His
supporters stole Tonya Harding's hammer from
Hillary's gym bag.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread feste37
One of the many problems with raunchydog's comment,"Welcome comrades
to Obomba's Ameri-KKK" is that it does not make any sense. How can
Obama, a black man, be a leftist, bomb-throwing terrorist and at the
same time be associated with the KKK? Poor raunchydog seems to be very
confused. Perhaps one day she'll realize that her beloved Hillary was
a very poor candidate who didn't deserve to win. Hillary is like a
woman who entered a 10K road race, was given a 5K start, and still
managed to lose the race. Quite an achievement. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Yikes! Just as I suspected. You hate America too. Figures.
> > 
> > You are entering the intellectual territory of George Bush, 
> > same level of simplistic thinking.  For us or against us.  
> 
> *Everyone* is against her. Haven't you figured
> that out yet?
> 
> > > Welcome comrades to Obomba's Ameri-KKK.> 
> > 
> > This is very offensive. I'm gunna take a wild guess that you 
> > don't hang out with black people?  
> 
> I'd go so far as to suggest that she doesn't 
> hang out with people *at all*. Who could 
> stand to be around her? My bet is that Rick 
> invited her here out of pity. 
> 
> > If you did you would never make such an
> > obnoxious comment.
> 
> Curtis, you are talking about the person who 
> accuses Obama of being a terrorist in one breath,
> and is as startling an example of misandry and
> racial bigotry as we have ever seen on this 
> forum or any other, who then, in the next breath,
> claims that reporters are misogynistic for asking
> Sarah Palin to describe her qualifications for
> the second-highest position in the land.
> 
> You are talking about a homosexual who thinks
> that a good *insult* is to call someone else
> a homosexual.
> 
> You are talking about someone who is so far over
> the edge into insanity that it boggles the mind. 
> KKK? This woman is so much crazier than KKK 
> members that it's scary.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of do.rflex
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:45 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On
Schools
> 
>  
> 
> I think she's nuts.
> 
> If so, she's got company here.


Indeed.




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of do.rflex
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:45 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

 

I think she's nuts.

If so, she's got company here.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:30 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On
Schools
> 
>  
> 
> >My bet is that Rick 
> invited her here out of pity. 
> 
> I invited her because she and I were arguing politics on the side, and I
> didn't have the time nor talent for it, so I thought I'd let you
guys have
> at her, and vice versa. Besides, I like to stir the FFL pot.


I think she's nuts.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread curtisdeltablues


It worked, good call!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:30 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On
Schools
> 
>  
> 
> >My bet is that Rick 
> invited her here out of pity. 
> 
> I invited her because she and I were arguing politics on the side, and I
> didn't have the time nor talent for it, so I thought I'd let you
guys have
> at her, and vice versa. Besides, I like to stir the FFL pot.
>




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:30 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

 

>My bet is that Rick 
invited her here out of pity. 

I invited her because she and I were arguing politics on the side, and I
didn't have the time nor talent for it, so I thought I'd let you guys have
at her, and vice versa. Besides, I like to stir the FFL pot.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > Yikes! Just as I suspected. You hate America too. Figures.
> 
> You are entering the intellectual territory of George Bush, 
> same level of simplistic thinking.  For us or against us.  

*Everyone* is against her. Haven't you figured
that out yet?

> > Welcome comrades to Obomba's Ameri-KKK.> 
> 
> This is very offensive. I'm gunna take a wild guess that you 
> don't hang out with black people?  

I'd go so far as to suggest that she doesn't 
hang out with people *at all*. Who could 
stand to be around her? My bet is that Rick 
invited her here out of pity. 

> If you did you would never make such an
> obnoxious comment.

Curtis, you are talking about the person who 
accuses Obama of being a terrorist in one breath,
and is as startling an example of misandry and
racial bigotry as we have ever seen on this 
forum or any other, who then, in the next breath,
claims that reporters are misogynistic for asking
Sarah Palin to describe her qualifications for
the second-highest position in the land.

You are talking about a homosexual who thinks
that a good *insult* is to call someone else
a homosexual.

You are talking about someone who is so far over
the edge into insanity that it boggles the mind. 
KKK? This woman is so much crazier than KKK 
members that it's scary.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yikes! Just as I suspected. You hate America too. Figures.

You are entering the intellectual territory of George Bush, same level
of simplistic thinking.  For us or against us.  

 Let's see a
> show of hands of the folks on the forum. How many think Ayers was
> right to bomb the Pentagon and America deserved it? And how many
think> hating America is a winning strategy to win the hearts and
minds of> American voters?

I was alive then and a lot of crazy shit when down.  Do I agree with
that action, no.  Do I understand it in the context of the time?  Yes
I do, don't you?  Do you think people can evolve and change from the
POV of their youth?  I sure do, I was following the Maharishi at his
age then.

< Welcome comrades to Obomba's Ameri-KKK.> 

This is very offensive.  I'm gunna take a wild guess that you don't
hang out with black people?  If you did you would never make such an
obnoxious comment.

The KKK upheld defacto slavery in the South through terror and murder.
 Black men who were lynched were commonly mutilated first, with
gentile removal as step one.  Ears, noses and fingers were removed as
souvenirs, before they were strung up.

So using a black man's name along with these letters in not cool.  

  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > And what do you hope to prove with your little Google adventure? And
> > by the way, the Pentagon deserved to get bombed. What gave America the
> > right to rain down death and destruction in Vietnam and avoid
> > receiving some of it at home in response? What kind of rules does your
> > America play by? 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Obama lied when he said Bill Ayers was just "a guy who lives in my
> > > neighborhood." He had a long stand in relationship with Ayers
> > > http://tinyurl.com/6cgk9f that he wants everyone to shut up
about. Why
> > > isn't he bragging about being president of the Chicago Annenberg
> > > Challenge? Call me old fashioned, but believe that we are known
by the
> > > company we keep.  Rev Wright, (friends with Louis Farrakahn) William
> > > Ayers, (friends with Rashid Khalidi) and Tony Rezko, (friends with
> > > Nadhmi Auchi). These guys hate America. If you think they don't,
then
> > > maybe you hate America too. AYERS BOMBED THE PENTAGON. This is not a
> > > forgivable crime just because Obama's media flacks want to push the
> > > meme that he is now a "respected educator."  Just for giggles I
Google
> > > Hits for Ayers
> > > 
> > > 258,000 for Bill Ayers educator.
> > > 338,000 for Bill Ayers domestic terrorist.
> > > 
> > > 92,000 for Bill Ayers loved.
> > > 191,000 for Bill Ayers hated.
> > > 
> > > 4,010 for Bill Ayers repentant.
> > > 168,000 for Bill Ayers unrepentant.
> > > 
> > > 786,000 for Bill Ayers good.
> > > 2,260,000 for Bill Ayers bad
> > > 
> > > 55,800 for Bill Ayers respected.
> > > 720,000 for Bill Ayers feared.
> > > 
> > > 61,600 for Bill Ayers patriotic.
> > > 96,700 for Bill Ayers anti-American.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Do a Google search on "Ayers well-respected professor of
education"
> > > > and see how wrong you are. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The only person who ever wrote that Ayers is a well respected
> > > > > professor was Obama's media flack Ben Smith at Politico. So take
> > that
> > > > > with a grain of salt. Excuse Ayers if you must. HE BOMBED THE
> > FRIGGIN'
> > > > > PENTAGON! http://tinyurl.com/63n47m and he is unrepentant
> about it.
> > > > > That's O.K. by you? Give me a break! I prefer to deal with facts
> > > > > rather than "Trust me, I'm Obama." 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" 
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not convinced that Obama is "hiding" anything. He has
better
> > > > > > things to talk about. He knows very well what the
intentions of
> > > people
> > > > > > like you are. I see nothing wrong in his association with
Ayers,
> > > who,
> > > > > > as I pointed out, is a well-respected professor of education
> > at the
> > > > > > University of Chicago. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"

> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have
> > > > drafted my
> > > > > > > post in a word document and would have caught the error.
> > Sorry, no
> > > > > > > coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as
> > linking
> > > > > > > Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe
fits...
> > > > Everyone
> > > > > > > is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of
> Obama's
> > > > life.
> > > > > > > Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it,
is none
> > > of my
> > > > > > > business.  Rather than focusing o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, that settles it for me.  FYI Daley is one of the honchos of the
> Chicago Political machine http://tinyurl.com/452fon which is just as
> corrupt as it ever was when his father ran it. Now that its tentacles
> have reached into the heart and soul of the DNC, thanks to Obama, we
> can all sing Kumbaya round the campfire of America burning. Good luck
> with that. By the way the Chicago Annenberg Challenge Obama headed as
> president was a failure and in fact, at one point Mayor Daley
> attempted to lobby Walter Annenberg directly to take the $49.2 million
> away from Obama and Ayers and give it to the city.
> http://tinyurl.com/696u2y http://tinyurl.com/4zvwaa


Whatever your insinuations about Obama, none of it remotely measures
in comparison to the degree of egregious greed, graft and corruption -
and devastation to the American economy and its citizens - resulting
from the long term quid pro quo key support of deregulation of the
financial industry from McCain and his friends - which they themselves
richly benefited from. 









[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread raunchydog
Well, that settles it for me.  FYI Daley is one of the honchos of the
Chicago Political machine http://tinyurl.com/452fon which is just as
corrupt as it ever was when his father ran it. Now that its tentacles
have reached into the heart and soul of the DNC, thanks to Obama, we
can all sing Kumbaya round the campfire of America burning. Good luck
with that. By the way the Chicago Annenberg Challenge Obama headed as
president was a failure and in fact, at one point Mayor Daley
attempted to lobby Walter Annenberg directly to take the $49.2 million
away from Obama and Ayers and give it to the city.
http://tinyurl.com/696u2y http://tinyurl.com/4zvwaa

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > Obama lied when he said Bill Ayers was just "a guy who lives in my
> > neighborhood." He had a long stand in relationship with Ayers
> > http://tinyurl.com/6cgk9f that he wants everyone to shut up about. 
> 
> 
> "Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, whose father was famously
> not so sympathetic to anti-war protesters, is coming to the
> defense of Barack Obama for his friendship with former
> Weather Underground member Bill Ayers.
> 
> Daley accused Hillary Clinton and other critics of Obama's
> association with Ayers of "re-fighting 40 year old battles."
> And the mayor noted that he, too "knows Bill Ayers" and
> has "worked with" Ayers on city education reforms.
> 
> The mayor released the following statement:
> 
> 'There are a lot of reasons that Americans are angry about
> Washington politics. And one more example is the way
> Senator Obama's opponents are playing guilt-by-association,
> tarring him because he happens to know Bill Ayers.
> 
> I also know Bill Ayers. He worked with me in shaping our
> now nationally-renowned school reform program. He is a
> nationally-recognized distinguished professor of education
> at the University of Illinois/Chicago and a valued member
> of the Chicago community.
> 
> I don't condone what he did 40 years ago but I remember
> that period well. It was a difficult time, but those days are
> long over. I believe we have too many challenges in Chicago
> and our country to keep re-fighting 40 year old battles.' "
> 
> ~~  Full article: 
> http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/18/nation/na-radicals18
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Welcome comrades to Obomba's Ameri-KKK.   

You've really lost it there, raunchy. Go get another bone to chew on. 


> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > And what do you hope to prove with your little Google adventure? And
> > by the way, the Pentagon deserved to get bombed. What gave America the
> > right to rain down death and destruction in Vietnam and avoid
> > receiving some of it at home in response? What kind of rules does your
> > America play by? 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Obama lied when he said Bill Ayers was just "a guy who lives in my
> > > neighborhood." He had a long stand in relationship with Ayers
> > > http://tinyurl.com/6cgk9f that he wants everyone to shut up
about. Why
> > > isn't he bragging about being president of the Chicago Annenberg
> > > Challenge? Call me old fashioned, but believe that we are known
by the
> > > company we keep.  Rev Wright, (friends with Louis Farrakahn) William
> > > Ayers, (friends with Rashid Khalidi) and Tony Rezko, (friends with
> > > Nadhmi Auchi). These guys hate America. If you think they don't,
then
> > > maybe you hate America too. AYERS BOMBED THE PENTAGON. This is not a
> > > forgivable crime just because Obama's media flacks want to push the
> > > meme that he is now a "respected educator."  Just for giggles I
Google
> > > Hits for Ayers
> > > 
> > > 258,000 for Bill Ayers educator.
> > > 338,000 for Bill Ayers domestic terrorist.
> > > 
> > > 92,000 for Bill Ayers loved.
> > > 191,000 for Bill Ayers hated.
> > > 
> > > 4,010 for Bill Ayers repentant.
> > > 168,000 for Bill Ayers unrepentant.
> > > 
> > > 786,000 for Bill Ayers good.
> > > 2,260,000 for Bill Ayers bad
> > > 
> > > 55,800 for Bill Ayers respected.
> > > 720,000 for Bill Ayers feared.
> > > 
> > > 61,600 for Bill Ayers patriotic.
> > > 96,700 for Bill Ayers anti-American.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Do a Google search on "Ayers well-respected professor of
education"
> > > > and see how wrong you are. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The only person who ever wrote that Ayers is a well respected
> > > > > professor was Obama's media flack Ben Smith at Politico. So take
> > that
> > > > > with a grain of salt. Excuse Ayers if you must. HE BOMBED THE
> > FRIGGIN'
> > > > > PENTAGON! http://tinyurl.com/63n47m and he is unrepentant
> about it.
> > > > > That's O.K. by you? Give me a break! I prefer to deal with facts
> > > > > rather than "Trust me, I'm Obama." 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" 
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not convinced that Obama is "hiding" anything. He has
better
> > > > > > things to talk about. He knows very well what the
intentions of
> > > people
> > > > > > like you are. I see nothing wrong in his association with
Ayers,
> > > who,
> > > > > > as I pointed out, is a well-respected professor of education
> > at the
> > > > > > University of Chicago. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"

> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have
> > > > drafted my
> > > > > > > post in a word document and would have caught the error.
> > Sorry, no
> > > > > > > coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as
> > linking
> > > > > > > Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe
fits...
> > > > Everyone
> > > > > > > is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of
> Obama's
> > > > life.
> > > > > > > Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it,
is none
> > > of my
> > > > > > > business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to
> > > distract
> > > > > > > us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question?
"Why
> > > aren't
> > > > > > > you the least bit curious to know what the future president
> > of our
> > > > > > > country is hiding?" If he lies about Ayers, what else is he
> > lying
> > > > > > > about and will lie to us as our future president?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > My post should have read:
> > > > > > > I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's
past is a
> > > > smear.
> > > > > > > The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they
did a
> > > piss
> > > > > > > poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time
> ripping into
> > > > > > > Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be
> > > > president
> > > > > > > from answering legitimate questions? The more his media
> > > flacks, like
> > > > > > > Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I
want to
> > > know.
> > > > > > > Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President
> > of the
> > > > > > > $100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have
put to
> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Obama lied when he said Bill Ayers was just "a guy who lives in my
> neighborhood." He had a long stand in relationship with Ayers
> http://tinyurl.com/6cgk9f that he wants everyone to shut up about. 


"Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, whose father was famously
not so sympathetic to anti-war protesters, is coming to the
defense of Barack Obama for his friendship with former
Weather Underground member Bill Ayers.

Daley accused Hillary Clinton and other critics of Obama's
association with Ayers of "re-fighting 40 year old battles."
And the mayor noted that he, too "knows Bill Ayers" and
has "worked with" Ayers on city education reforms.

The mayor released the following statement:

'There are a lot of reasons that Americans are angry about
Washington politics. And one more example is the way
Senator Obama's opponents are playing guilt-by-association,
tarring him because he happens to know Bill Ayers.

I also know Bill Ayers. He worked with me in shaping our
now nationally-renowned school reform program. He is a
nationally-recognized distinguished professor of education
at the University of Illinois/Chicago and a valued member
of the Chicago community.

I don't condone what he did 40 years ago but I remember
that period well. It was a difficult time, but those days are
long over. I believe we have too many challenges in Chicago
and our country to keep re-fighting 40 year old battles.' "

~~  Full article: 
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/18/nation/na-radicals18






[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread raunchydog
Yikes! Just as I suspected. You hate America too. Figures. Let's see a
show of hands of the folks on the forum. How many think Ayers was
right to bomb the Pentagon and America deserved it? And how many think
hating America is a winning strategy to win the hearts and minds of
American voters? Welcome comrades to Obomba's Ameri-KKK.   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And what do you hope to prove with your little Google adventure? And
> by the way, the Pentagon deserved to get bombed. What gave America the
> right to rain down death and destruction in Vietnam and avoid
> receiving some of it at home in response? What kind of rules does your
> America play by? 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > Obama lied when he said Bill Ayers was just "a guy who lives in my
> > neighborhood." He had a long stand in relationship with Ayers
> > http://tinyurl.com/6cgk9f that he wants everyone to shut up about. Why
> > isn't he bragging about being president of the Chicago Annenberg
> > Challenge? Call me old fashioned, but believe that we are known by the
> > company we keep.  Rev Wright, (friends with Louis Farrakahn) William
> > Ayers, (friends with Rashid Khalidi) and Tony Rezko, (friends with
> > Nadhmi Auchi). These guys hate America. If you think they don't, then
> > maybe you hate America too. AYERS BOMBED THE PENTAGON. This is not a
> > forgivable crime just because Obama's media flacks want to push the
> > meme that he is now a "respected educator."  Just for giggles I Google
> > Hits for Ayers
> > 
> > 258,000 for Bill Ayers educator.
> > 338,000 for Bill Ayers domestic terrorist.
> > 
> > 92,000 for Bill Ayers loved.
> > 191,000 for Bill Ayers hated.
> > 
> > 4,010 for Bill Ayers repentant.
> > 168,000 for Bill Ayers unrepentant.
> > 
> > 786,000 for Bill Ayers good.
> > 2,260,000 for Bill Ayers bad
> > 
> > 55,800 for Bill Ayers respected.
> > 720,000 for Bill Ayers feared.
> > 
> > 61,600 for Bill Ayers patriotic.
> > 96,700 for Bill Ayers anti-American.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Do a Google search on "Ayers well-respected professor of education"
> > > and see how wrong you are. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The only person who ever wrote that Ayers is a well respected
> > > > professor was Obama's media flack Ben Smith at Politico. So take
> that
> > > > with a grain of salt. Excuse Ayers if you must. HE BOMBED THE
> FRIGGIN'
> > > > PENTAGON! http://tinyurl.com/63n47m and he is unrepentant
about it.
> > > > That's O.K. by you? Give me a break! I prefer to deal with facts
> > > > rather than "Trust me, I'm Obama." 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not convinced that Obama is "hiding" anything. He has better
> > > > > things to talk about. He knows very well what the intentions of
> > people
> > > > > like you are. I see nothing wrong in his association with Ayers,
> > who,
> > > > > as I pointed out, is a well-respected professor of education
> at the
> > > > > University of Chicago. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have
> > > drafted my
> > > > > > post in a word document and would have caught the error.
> Sorry, no
> > > > > > coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as
> linking
> > > > > > Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe fits...
> > > Everyone
> > > > > > is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of
Obama's
> > > life.
> > > > > > Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it, is none
> > of my
> > > > > > business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to
> > distract
> > > > > > us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question? "Why
> > aren't
> > > > > > you the least bit curious to know what the future president
> of our
> > > > > > country is hiding?" If he lies about Ayers, what else is he
> lying
> > > > > > about and will lie to us as our future president?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > My post should have read:
> > > > > > I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a
> > > smear.
> > > > > > The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they did a
> > piss
> > > > > > poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time
ripping into
> > > > > > Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be
> > > president
> > > > > > from answering legitimate questions? The more his media
> > flacks, like
> > > > > > Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to
> > know.
> > > > > > Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President
> of the
> > > > > > $100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to
> > rest
> > > > > > any question about his lack of executive experience. H

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread feste37
And what do you hope to prove with your little Google adventure? And
by the way, the Pentagon deserved to get bombed. What gave America the
right to rain down death and destruction in Vietnam and avoid
receiving some of it at home in response? What kind of rules does your
America play by? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Obama lied when he said Bill Ayers was just "a guy who lives in my
> neighborhood." He had a long stand in relationship with Ayers
> http://tinyurl.com/6cgk9f that he wants everyone to shut up about. Why
> isn't he bragging about being president of the Chicago Annenberg
> Challenge? Call me old fashioned, but believe that we are known by the
> company we keep.  Rev Wright, (friends with Louis Farrakahn) William
> Ayers, (friends with Rashid Khalidi) and Tony Rezko, (friends with
> Nadhmi Auchi). These guys hate America. If you think they don't, then
> maybe you hate America too. AYERS BOMBED THE PENTAGON. This is not a
> forgivable crime just because Obama's media flacks want to push the
> meme that he is now a "respected educator."  Just for giggles I Google
> Hits for Ayers
> 
> 258,000 for Bill Ayers educator.
> 338,000 for Bill Ayers domestic terrorist.
> 
> 92,000 for Bill Ayers loved.
> 191,000 for Bill Ayers hated.
> 
> 4,010 for Bill Ayers repentant.
> 168,000 for Bill Ayers unrepentant.
> 
> 786,000 for Bill Ayers good.
> 2,260,000 for Bill Ayers bad
> 
> 55,800 for Bill Ayers respected.
> 720,000 for Bill Ayers feared.
> 
> 61,600 for Bill Ayers patriotic.
> 96,700 for Bill Ayers anti-American.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Do a Google search on "Ayers well-respected professor of education"
> > and see how wrong you are. 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > The only person who ever wrote that Ayers is a well respected
> > > professor was Obama's media flack Ben Smith at Politico. So take
that
> > > with a grain of salt. Excuse Ayers if you must. HE BOMBED THE
FRIGGIN'
> > > PENTAGON! http://tinyurl.com/63n47m and he is unrepentant about it.
> > > That's O.K. by you? Give me a break! I prefer to deal with facts
> > > rather than "Trust me, I'm Obama." 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm not convinced that Obama is "hiding" anything. He has better
> > > > things to talk about. He knows very well what the intentions of
> people
> > > > like you are. I see nothing wrong in his association with Ayers,
> who,
> > > > as I pointed out, is a well-respected professor of education
at the
> > > > University of Chicago. 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have
> > drafted my
> > > > > post in a word document and would have caught the error.
Sorry, no
> > > > > coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as
linking
> > > > > Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe fits...
> > Everyone
> > > > > is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of Obama's
> > life.
> > > > > Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it, is none
> of my
> > > > > business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to
> distract
> > > > > us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question? "Why
> aren't
> > > > > you the least bit curious to know what the future president
of our
> > > > > country is hiding?" If he lies about Ayers, what else is he
lying
> > > > > about and will lie to us as our future president?
> > > > > 
> > > > > My post should have read:
> > > > > I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a
> > smear.
> > > > > The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they did a
> piss
> > > > > poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into
> > > > > Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be
> > president
> > > > > from answering legitimate questions? The more his media
> flacks, like
> > > > > Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to
> know.
> > > > > Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President
of the
> > > > > $100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to
> rest
> > > > > any question about his lack of executive experience. He
should be
> > > > > bragging about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full
> > examination of
> > > > > this period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers
> > is just
> > > > > "a guy who lives in my neighborhood" and in fact had a long term
> > > > > working relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit
> > curious
> > > > > to know what the future president of our country is hiding?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-25 Thread raunchydog
Obama lied when he said Bill Ayers was just "a guy who lives in my
neighborhood." He had a long stand in relationship with Ayers
http://tinyurl.com/6cgk9f that he wants everyone to shut up about. Why
isn't he bragging about being president of the Chicago Annenberg
Challenge? Call me old fashioned, but believe that we are known by the
company we keep.  Rev Wright, (friends with Louis Farrakahn) William
Ayers, (friends with Rashid Khalidi) and Tony Rezko, (friends with
Nadhmi Auchi). These guys hate America. If you think they don't, then
maybe you hate America too. AYERS BOMBED THE PENTAGON. This is not a
forgivable crime just because Obama's media flacks want to push the
meme that he is now a "respected educator."  Just for giggles I Google
Hits for Ayers

258,000 for Bill Ayers educator.
338,000 for Bill Ayers domestic terrorist.

92,000 for Bill Ayers loved.
191,000 for Bill Ayers hated.

4,010 for Bill Ayers repentant.
168,000 for Bill Ayers unrepentant.

786,000 for Bill Ayers good.
2,260,000 for Bill Ayers bad

55,800 for Bill Ayers respected.
720,000 for Bill Ayers feared.

61,600 for Bill Ayers patriotic.
96,700 for Bill Ayers anti-American.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Do a Google search on "Ayers well-respected professor of education"
> and see how wrong you are. 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > The only person who ever wrote that Ayers is a well respected
> > professor was Obama's media flack Ben Smith at Politico. So take that
> > with a grain of salt. Excuse Ayers if you must. HE BOMBED THE FRIGGIN'
> > PENTAGON! http://tinyurl.com/63n47m and he is unrepentant about it.
> > That's O.K. by you? Give me a break! I prefer to deal with facts
> > rather than "Trust me, I'm Obama." 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not convinced that Obama is "hiding" anything. He has better
> > > things to talk about. He knows very well what the intentions of
people
> > > like you are. I see nothing wrong in his association with Ayers,
who,
> > > as I pointed out, is a well-respected professor of education at the
> > > University of Chicago. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have
> drafted my
> > > > post in a word document and would have caught the error. Sorry, no
> > > > coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as linking
> > > > Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe fits...
> Everyone
> > > > is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of Obama's
> life.
> > > > Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it, is none
of my
> > > > business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to
distract
> > > > us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question? "Why
aren't
> > > > you the least bit curious to know what the future president of our
> > > > country is hiding?" If he lies about Ayers, what else is he lying
> > > > about and will lie to us as our future president?
> > > > 
> > > > My post should have read:
> > > > I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a
> smear.
> > > > The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they did a
piss
> > > > poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into
> > > > Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be
> president
> > > > from answering legitimate questions? The more his media
flacks, like
> > > > Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to
know.
> > > > Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the
> > > > $100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to
rest
> > > > any question about his lack of executive experience. He should be
> > > > bragging about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full
> examination of
> > > > this period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers
> is just
> > > > "a guy who lives in my neighborhood" and in fact had a long term
> > > > working relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit
> curious
> > > > to know what the future president of our country is hiding?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread feste37
Do a Google search on "Ayers well-respected professor of education"
and see how wrong you are. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The only person who ever wrote that Ayers is a well respected
> professor was Obama's media flack Ben Smith at Politico. So take that
> with a grain of salt. Excuse Ayers if you must. HE BOMBED THE FRIGGIN'
> PENTAGON! http://tinyurl.com/63n47m and he is unrepentant about it.
> That's O.K. by you? Give me a break! I prefer to deal with facts
> rather than "Trust me, I'm Obama." 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > I'm not convinced that Obama is "hiding" anything. He has better
> > things to talk about. He knows very well what the intentions of people
> > like you are. I see nothing wrong in his association with Ayers, who,
> > as I pointed out, is a well-respected professor of education at the
> > University of Chicago. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have
drafted my
> > > post in a word document and would have caught the error. Sorry, no
> > > coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as linking
> > > Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe fits...
Everyone
> > > is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of Obama's
life.
> > > Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it, is none of my
> > > business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to distract
> > > us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question? "Why aren't
> > > you the least bit curious to know what the future president of our
> > > country is hiding?" If he lies about Ayers, what else is he lying
> > > about and will lie to us as our future president?
> > > 
> > > My post should have read:
> > > I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a
smear.
> > > The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they did a piss
> > > poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into
> > > Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be
president
> > > from answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like
> > > Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know.
> > > Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the
> > > $100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest
> > > any question about his lack of executive experience. He should be
> > > bragging about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full
examination of
> > > this period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers
is just
> > > "a guy who lives in my neighborhood" and in fact had a long term
> > > working relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit
curious
> > > to know what the future president of our country is hiding?
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread raunchydog
The only person who ever wrote that Ayers is a well respected
professor was Obama's media flack Ben Smith at Politico. So take that
with a grain of salt. Excuse Ayers if you must. HE BOMBED THE FRIGGIN'
PENTAGON! http://tinyurl.com/63n47m and he is unrepentant about it.
That's O.K. by you? Give me a break! I prefer to deal with facts
rather than "Trust me, I'm Obama." 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm not convinced that Obama is "hiding" anything. He has better
> things to talk about. He knows very well what the intentions of people
> like you are. I see nothing wrong in his association with Ayers, who,
> as I pointed out, is a well-respected professor of education at the
> University of Chicago. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have drafted my
> > post in a word document and would have caught the error. Sorry, no
> > coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as linking
> > Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe fits... Everyone
> > is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of Obama's life.
> > Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it, is none of my
> > business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to distract
> > us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question? "Why aren't
> > you the least bit curious to know what the future president of our
> > country is hiding?" If he lies about Ayers, what else is he lying
> > about and will lie to us as our future president?
> > 
> > My post should have read:
> > I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
> > The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they did a piss
> > poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into
> > Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president
> > from answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like
> > Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know.
> > Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the
> > $100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest
> > any question about his lack of executive experience. He should be
> > bragging about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of
> > this period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just
> > "a guy who lives in my neighborhood" and in fact had a long term
> > working relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious
> > to know what the future president of our country is hiding?
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread raunchydog
You clearly don't know what you are talking about. The Chicago
Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve Chicago's public
schools. CAC funding came from a national education initiative by
Ambassador Walter Annenberg. Ayers wrote a grant to get money from the
foundation. He got the money and used it to promote his radical
ideology for school children. No one ever said the Annenburg
Foundation was a radical anti-American group. Improved reader
comprehension would help.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
> 
> The smear is calling the Annenburg Foundation some kind of radical
> anti-american group.  You clearly don't know the first thing about the
> Annenburg Foundation.
> 
> > The media should vet all candidates thoroughly.  IMO they did a piss
> > poor of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into Palin.
> > Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president from
> > answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like Ben
> > Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know. Why
> > does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the $100
> > million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest any
> > question about his lack of executive experience. He should be bragging
> > about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of this
> > period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just "a
> > guy who lives in my neighborhood" and in fact had a long term working
> > relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious to know
> > what the future president of our country is hiding?
> > 
> > 
> > Since his past will follow him to the White,  associations is asking
> > questions aboutstill baffles me that his supports are not the
least bit
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
> > > these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
> > > education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine
points
> > > ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
> > > nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't
fly,as
> > > I knew it wouldn't.) 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 "...The Obama campaign has
struggled to
> > > > downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr.
> Ayers
> > > > as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody
> who I
> > > > exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC
> > > > archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners
> in the
> > > > CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library
> at the
> > > > University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days
> looking
> > > > through them.
> > > > 
> > > > The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
> > > > Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national
education
> > > > initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr.
Obama
> > > > was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled
fiscal
> > > > matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
> > > > "Collaborative," which shaped education policy...The Obama
campaign
> > > > has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by
> > > > association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
> > > > guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending
moral
> > > > and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle.
That is a
> > > > story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years
> ago."
> > > > read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
> > > > 
> > > > New York Times 9/11/2001 "I don't regret setting bombs," Bill
Ayers
> > > > said. "I feel we didn't do enough." Mr. Ayers, who spent the
> 1970's as
> > > > a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the
kitchen of
> > > > his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park
> district
> > > > of Chicago..." read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread feste37
I'm not convinced that Obama is "hiding" anything. He has better
things to talk about. He knows very well what the intentions of people
like you are. I see nothing wrong in his association with Ayers, who,
as I pointed out, is a well-respected professor of education at the
University of Chicago. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have drafted my
> post in a word document and would have caught the error. Sorry, no
> coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as linking
> Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe fits... Everyone
> is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of Obama's life.
> Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it, is none of my
> business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to distract
> us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question? "Why aren't
> you the least bit curious to know what the future president of our
> country is hiding?" If he lies about Ayers, what else is he lying
> about and will lie to us as our future president?
> 
> My post should have read:
> I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
> The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they did a piss
> poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into
> Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president
> from answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like
> Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know.
> Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the
> $100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest
> any question about his lack of executive experience. He should be
> bragging about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of
> this period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just
> "a guy who lives in my neighborhood" and in fact had a long term
> working relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious
> to know what the future president of our country is hiding?
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread raunchydog
You are right about the incomplete sentence. I should have drafted my
post in a word document and would have caught the error. Sorry, no
coke here, you will have to see Obama for that. As far as linking
Obama to a terrorist is concerned...well, if the shoe fits... Everyone
is free to draw their own conclusions about the facts of Obama's life.
Whether anyone votes for or against him because of it, is none of my
business.  Rather than focusing on my typos as an excuse to distract
us from Obama's past, why don't you answer the question? "Why aren't
you the least bit curious to know what the future president of our
country is hiding?" If he lies about Ayers, what else is he lying
about and will lie to us as our future president?

My post should have read:
I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
The media should vet all candidates thoroughly. IMO they did a piss
poor job of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into
Palin. Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president
from answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like
Ben Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know.
Why does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the
$100 million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest
any question about his lack of executive experience. He should be
bragging about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of
this period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just
"a guy who lives in my neighborhood" and in fact had a long term
working relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious
to know what the future president of our country is hiding?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.

The smear is calling the Annenburg Foundation some kind of radical
anti-american group.  You clearly don't know the first thing about the
Annenburg Foundation.

> The media should vet all candidates thoroughly.  IMO they did a piss
> poor of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into Palin.
> Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president from
> answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like Ben
> Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know. Why
> does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the $100
> million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest any
> question about his lack of executive experience. He should be bragging
> about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of this
> period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just "a
> guy who lives in my neighborhood" and in fact had a long term working
> relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious to know
> what the future president of our country is hiding?
> 
> 
> Since his past will follow him to the White,  associations is asking
> questions aboutstill baffles me that his supports are not the least bit
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
> > these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
> > education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine points
> > ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
> > nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't fly,as
> > I knew it wouldn't.) 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 "...The Obama campaign has struggled to
> > > downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr.
Ayers
> > > as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody
who I
> > > exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC
> > > archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners
in the
> > > CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library
at the
> > > University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days
looking
> > > through them.
> > > 
> > > The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
> > > Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education
> > > initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama
> > > was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal
> > > matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
> > > "Collaborative," which shaped education policy...The Obama campaign
> > > has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by
> > > association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
> > > guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral
> > > and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a
> > > story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years
ago."
> > > read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
> > > 
> > > New York Times 9/11/2001 "I don't regret setting bombs," Bill Ayers
> > > said. "I feel we didn't do enough." Mr. Ayers, who spent the
1970's as
> > > a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of
> > > his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park
district
> > > of Chicago..." read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread feste37
Interesting that you decline at the end of your post into complete
incoherence. Need I say more? A coke-addled brain, perhaps? And you
know very well what you are trying to do -- create some bogus link
between Obama and terrorism. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
> The media should vet all candidates thoroughly.  IMO they did a piss
> poor of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into Palin.
> Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president from
> answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like Ben
> Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know. Why
> does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the $100
> million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest any
> question about his lack of executive experience. He should be bragging
> about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of this
> period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just "a
> guy who lives in my neighborhood" and in fact had a long term working
> relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious to know
> what the future president of our country is hiding?
> 
> 
> Since his past will follow him to the White,  associations is asking
> questions aboutstill baffles me that his supports are not the least bit
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
> > these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
> > education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine points
> > ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
> > nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't fly,as
> > I knew it wouldn't.) 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 "...The Obama campaign has struggled to
> > > downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr.
Ayers
> > > as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody
who I
> > > exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC
> > > archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners
in the
> > > CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library
at the
> > > University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days
looking
> > > through them.
> > > 
> > > The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
> > > Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education
> > > initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama
> > > was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal
> > > matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
> > > "Collaborative," which shaped education policy...The Obama campaign
> > > has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by
> > > association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
> > > guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral
> > > and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a
> > > story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years
ago."
> > > read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
> > > 
> > > New York Times 9/11/2001 "I don't regret setting bombs," Bill Ayers
> > > said. "I feel we didn't do enough." Mr. Ayers, who spent the
1970's as
> > > a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of
> > > his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park
district
> > > of Chicago..." read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread raunchydog
I don't see how disclosing factual events of Obama's past is a smear.
The media should vet all candidates thoroughly.  IMO they did a piss
poor of vetting Obama but didn't waste any time ripping into Palin.
Why would you want to excuse anyone who aspires to be president from
answering legitimate questions? The more his media flacks, like Ben
Smith at Politico, try to protect him, the more I want to know. Why
does Obama decline to speak about his time as President of the $100
million dollar Annenberg Foundation? It would have put to rest any
question about his lack of executive experience. He should be bragging
about it. But he does not. Why? Because a full examination of this
period of his life will reveal he lied when he said Ayers is just "a
guy who lives in my neighborhood" and in fact had a long term working
relationship with Ayers. Why aren't you the least bit curious to know
what the future president of our country is hiding?


Since his past will follow him to the White,  associations is asking
questions aboutstill baffles me that his supports are not the least bit

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
> these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
> education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine points
> ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
> nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't fly,as
> I knew it wouldn't.) 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 "...The Obama campaign has struggled to
> > downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers
> > as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I
> > exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC
> > archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the
> > CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the
> > University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking
> > through them.
> > 
> > The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
> > Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education
> > initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama
> > was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal
> > matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
> > "Collaborative," which shaped education policy...The Obama campaign
> > has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by
> > association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
> > guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral
> > and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a
> > story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago."
> > read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
> > 
> > New York Times 9/11/2001 "I don't regret setting bombs," Bill Ayers
> > said. "I feel we didn't do enough." Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as
> > a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of
> > his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district
> > of Chicago..." read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
> these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
> education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine points
> ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
> nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't fly,as
> I knew it wouldn't.) 


The ethically crippled rely on ethically free crutches. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread feste37
It's not working, raunchydog. People with any judgment just ignore
these smears. Ayers is in fact a well respected professor of
education. The latest ABC/Washington Post poll puts Obama nine points
ahead. He is going to win, so you may as well get used to it. (That
nonsense about the Logan Act that you made a big deal of didn't fly,as
I knew it wouldn't.) 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 "...The Obama campaign has struggled to
> downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers
> as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I
> exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC
> archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the
> CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the
> University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking
> through them.
> 
> The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
> Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education
> initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama
> was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal
> matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
> "Collaborative," which shaped education policy...The Obama campaign
> has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by
> association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
> guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral
> and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a
> story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago."
> read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
> 
> New York Times 9/11/2001 "I don't regret setting bombs," Bill Ayers
> said. "I feel we didn't do enough." Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as
> a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of
> his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district
> of Chicago..." read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-24 Thread lurkernomore20002000
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Yikes! Next time you want to bean me with an Ayer's molotov
> cocktail, read the article more carefully.
>
funny line




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-23 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 "...The Obama campaign has struggled to
> > downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers
> > as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I
> > exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC
> > archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the
> > CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the
> > University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking
> > through them.
> > 
> > The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
> > Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education
> > initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama
> > was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal
> > matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
> > "Collaborative," which shaped education policy...The Obama campaign
> > has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by
> > association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
> > guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral
> > and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a
> > story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago."
> > read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
> > 
> > New York Times 9/11/2001 "I don't regret setting bombs," Bill Ayers
> > said. "I feel we didn't do enough." Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as
> > a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of
> > his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district
> > of Chicago..." read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
> >
> So let's get this straight Raunch. You're saying that Obama supports
the making of bombs 
> to overthrow the government of the US?

I haven't made any such claim because in case you didn't notice, I
didn't write the article. You are free to jump to any conclusion you
want, but try using a little logic when you do so. Nowhere does it say
Obama supports making bombs and overthrowing the government. You made
that up then attributed your fantasy of Obama's incendiary intentions
to me. Yikes! Next time you want to bean me with an Ayer's molotov
cocktail, read the article more carefully.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-23 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wall Street Journal 9/23/08 "...The Obama campaign has struggled to
> downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers
> as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I
> exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC
> archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the
> CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the
> University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking
> through them.
> 
> The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve
> Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education
> initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama
> was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal
> matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the
> "Collaborative," which shaped education policy...The Obama campaign
> has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by
> association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's
> guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral
> and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a
> story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago."
> read more http://tinyurl.com/3wbxtu
> 
> New York Times 9/11/2001 "I don't regret setting bombs," Bill Ayers
> said. "I feel we didn't do enough." Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as
> a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of
> his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district
> of Chicago..." read more http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd
>
So let's get this straight Raunch. You're saying that Obama supports the making 
of bombs 
to overthrow the government of the US?