[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Shiva Lingam

2008-11-12 Thread TurquoiseB
No, John Jesus would kill gays with his miraculous
siddhi powers R doesn't have any personal issues
with closet homosexuality. Nope, not a bit. He 
worships Shiva lingams because...uh...because
of the name 'Shiva,' that's all.  :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To All:
 
 Given the apparent interest in sexuality in this forum and the 
 national political scene, here is an excerpt of a post from another 
 group as shown below:
 
 
 dear friends
 
 many people asked the reason for worshipping the shivalinga with yoni
 and why devotees do not worship the image of lord shiva himself.
 here below is the narration of the same from the holy shivapurana,
 kotirudra samhita, chapter 12:
 
 -quote---
 sages ask suta to narrat the story behind the worship of phallic form
 of shiva to which sage suta says that once upon a time in the forest
 of daruka, sages were all devotees of lord shiva and worshipping him
 daily. to test their devotion, lord shiva comes in the form of a
 naked person (avadhoota) with ashes smeared all over is body,
 standing there and holding his penis. the wives of the sages were
 extremely frightened at this sight while other women excited,
 surprised and approached lord shiva. some embraced him, others held
 his hands and the women were engrossed in struggling with one
 another. meanwhile the great sages came there and seeing lord shiva
 engaged in perverse activities, they were pained and infuriated.
 deluded by siva maya and plunged in grief, the sages asked the naked
 person who he is but shiva does not reply. then the sages curse
 shiva that his penis fall on the ground since he is acting
 pervertedly in violation of the vedic path.
 
 due to the curse of the sages, the penis of that avadhoota fell down
 and burnt everything and wherever it went, it began to burn
 everything there. the penis went all over the earth, patala and
 heaven and never remained steady anywhere and kept on going places.
 
 unable to comprehend shiva maya, the sages and gods approached lord
 brahma to find a solution to stop the penis from burning everything
 everywhere. then lord brahma says that if a guest comes to the
 ashram of sages, he must be treated with respect even if he is
 avadhoota. since this avadhoota instead of getting respect got
 cursed, the penis would not become stationary which bodes bad for all
 the three worlds. to make the penis stationary and steady, lord
 brahma advises the gods and sages to propitiate goddess parvati and
 pray her to assume the form of vagina so that it holds the penis.
 lord brahma also states that a pot shall be placed over it and water
 from holy centres shall be poured into the pot along with the sprouts
 of durva and barley invoked with vedic mantras. the penis held in
 the vagina thus shall be drenched in water with sata rudriya
 mantras. parvati in the form of vaginal passage and an auspicious
 arrow shall form as the pedestal wherein the phallus shall be
 installed with vedic mantras. the shivalinga then shall be
 propitiated with the offerings of sandal paste, fragrant flowers,
 incense and other things as well as by food offerings and other forms
 of worship. with prostrations, holy hymns, bhajans and songs he
 shall be propitiated further with svastyayana mantras etc.
 
 thus pleased, lord shiva tells the gods and sages that if the penis
 is supported in the vaginal passage, it will immediately become quiet
 and no woman other than parvati can hold his penis. then goddess
 parvati assumes the vagina form and holds the phallus and is
 worshipped by brahma, Vishnu, other gods and sages and the three
 worlds stayed in peace and happiness.
 ---unquote---
 
 narrating the above story, it is preached that when devotees worship
 an image or form of the god, even if he is avadhuta or naked,
 devotees shall focus on their meditation with holy vision which is
 why our elders advise that whenever we see the image of a diety, we
 shall look at their feet and prostrate at the feet to seek blessings.
 
 members are aware that naga sadhus who live like avadhootas live
 naked with ash smeared all over the body and they are given highest
 respect. in all kumbha melas, naga sadhus are the first people to
 take bath. we also see digambar jain gurus live all along as
 avadhootas and these avadhootas travel barefoot and devotees treat
 these avadhootas as god.
 
 some other puranic experts also narrate that this story highlights
 the significance of lord shiva and parvati representing the creation
 of this universe. we also find at the beginning of raghuvamsam,
 kalidasa eulogizing lord shiva and parvati and their cosmic union as
 the parents of this universe.
 
 with best wishes and blessings
 pandit arjun
 www.rudraksharemedy.com





[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Shiva Lingam

2008-11-11 Thread Robert
--Wow, talk about penis envy...
I wonder if Sigmund was a devotee to Shiva, and didn't even know it!
R.G.




- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To All:
 
 Given the apparent interest in sexuality in this forum and the 
 national political scene, here is an excerpt of a post from another 
 group as shown below:
 
 
 dear friends
 
 many people asked the reason for worshipping the shivalinga with 
yoni
 and why devotees do not worship the image of lord shiva himself.
 here below is the narration of the same from the holy shivapurana,
 kotirudra samhita, chapter 12:
 
 -quote---
 sages ask suta to narrat the story behind the worship of phallic 
form
 of shiva to which sage suta says that once upon a time in the forest
 of daruka, sages were all devotees of lord shiva and worshipping him
 daily. to test their devotion, lord shiva comes in the form of a
 naked person (avadhoota) with ashes smeared all over is body,
 standing there and holding his penis. the wives of the sages were
 extremely frightened at this sight while other women excited,
 surprised and approached lord shiva. some embraced him, others held
 his hands and the women were engrossed in struggling with one
 another. meanwhile the great sages came there and seeing lord shiva
 engaged in perverse activities, they were pained and infuriated.
 deluded by siva maya and plunged in grief, the sages asked the naked
 person who he is but shiva does not reply. then the sages curse
 shiva that his penis fall on the ground since he is acting
 pervertedly in violation of the vedic path.
 
 due to the curse of the sages, the penis of that avadhoota fell down
 and burnt everything and wherever it went, it began to burn
 everything there. the penis went all over the earth, patala and
 heaven and never remained steady anywhere and kept on going places.
 
 unable to comprehend shiva maya, the sages and gods approached lord
 brahma to find a solution to stop the penis from burning everything
 everywhere. then lord brahma says that if a guest comes to the
 ashram of sages, he must be treated with respect even if he is
 avadhoota. since this avadhoota instead of getting respect got
 cursed, the penis would not become stationary which bodes bad for 
all
 the three worlds. to make the penis stationary and steady, lord
 brahma advises the gods and sages to propitiate goddess parvati and
 pray her to assume the form of vagina so that it holds the penis.
 lord brahma also states that a pot shall be placed over it and water
 from holy centres shall be poured into the pot along with the 
sprouts
 of durva and barley invoked with vedic mantras. the penis held in
 the vagina thus shall be drenched in water with sata rudriya
 mantras. parvati in the form of vaginal passage and an auspicious
 arrow shall form as the pedestal wherein the phallus shall be
 installed with vedic mantras. the shivalinga then shall be
 propitiated with the offerings of sandal paste, fragrant flowers,
 incense and other things as well as by food offerings and other 
forms
 of worship. with prostrations, holy hymns, bhajans and songs he
 shall be propitiated further with svastyayana mantras etc.
 
 thus pleased, lord shiva tells the gods and sages that if the penis
 is supported in the vaginal passage, it will immediately become 
quiet
 and no woman other than parvati can hold his penis. then goddess
 parvati assumes the vagina form and holds the phallus and is
 worshipped by brahma, Vishnu, other gods and sages and the three
 worlds stayed in peace and happiness.
 ---unquote---
 
 narrating the above story, it is preached that when devotees worship
 an image or form of the god, even if he is avadhuta or naked,
 devotees shall focus on their meditation with holy vision which is
 why our elders advise that whenever we see the image of a diety, we
 shall look at their feet and prostrate at the feet to seek 
blessings.
 
 members are aware that naga sadhus who live like avadhootas live
 naked with ash smeared all over the body and they are given highest
 respect. in all kumbha melas, naga sadhus are the first people to
 take bath. we also see digambar jain gurus live all along as
 avadhootas and these avadhootas travel barefoot and devotees treat
 these avadhootas as god.
 
 some other puranic experts also narrate that this story highlights
 the significance of lord shiva and parvati representing the creation
 of this universe. we also find at the beginning of raghuvamsam,
 kalidasa eulogizing lord shiva and parvati and their cosmic union as
 the parents of this universe.
 
 with best wishes and blessings
 pandit arjun
 www.rudraksharemedy.com