Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Steve Xeno

2013-01-12 Thread Share Long
Thanks again, Steve.  Another big part of it for me is finding ways to help my 
family with their various ailments.  My Mom and Dad both are now on so many 
Western meds that I'd be nervous recommending natural supplements.  Though now 
that my Dad is out of the woods with the killer bacteria, I mentioned echinecea 
tea as a way to boost his immune system.  But even in this instance, I'm a 
little nervous about how it might combine harmfully with his meds.  So I look 
into any form of energy medicine that comes along.  


My youngest sister has a rare autoimmune disease.  But she is open to and has 
pursued alternative health care along with allopathic treatments.  And just 
this past year my younger sister had to have part of the bone in her arm 
removed to be replaced by cement and rods.  She continues to be in a lot of 
pain.  I'd hate to see her go on pain meds and she's unlikely to.  But if I can 
find a natural supplement or energy work that can help her with this, that 
would be great and it's definitely worth my time and money to pursue.    


To Xeno:  The thing is, so many spiritual seeking boomers are now aging.  And 
they see or have seen the problems with allopathic medicine.  For the sake of 
their aging bodies, they search for better ways to deal all this.  And yes, 
most is psychosomatic.  I think even allopathic health care practitioners 
recognize this.  

I've said before that I think a lot of souls incarnated at this time because it 
looked like a RELATIVELY easy time to grow and unfold full potential.  I agree 
with you that there is no path, etc.  But it's pointless to live that truth 
simply based on intellectual understanding.  I think we're living in an amazing 
time when there's support to live this truth based on our own experience.




 From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:44 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull Alex 
etc.
 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
  
  snip
   Something must be wrong in the approach, understanding, or technology.
  
  All those fancy words and analysis on ones side, (as well as as some
  not so subtle condescending remarks previously), and the person Share on
  the other, and I'll take the person Share anytime.
  
  That is, a person who seems happy, optimistic, very realistic and
  grounded.
 
 Then, if that is the case, why this forever searching for the next better 
 technique, the continual need for healing, guidance and advice? 
To rephrase: someone continually looking for greater insight into themselves, 
and wishing to bring into greater balance, unresolved issues.  Last I checked, 
that is a lifelong process, and one that more people would benefit from if it 
were made a greater priority.
That is not grounded, possibly not content (happy), I would say yes to the 
optimistic ( surely the next healer will be able to help me), 
Again, I'm afraid you miss the mark.  There is no desperation there.  Just a 
desire to deepen one's understanding about themselves and their environment. 
(both near and far)
negative on the realistic (I will find the answer when I try solution #100). I 
think that covers it. But I might be convinced if you want to give some 
examples, 
especially of the grounded part. Share?
You mean one who expresses herself well, captures nuance in a remarkable way, 
and whose relationships with friends, family and community seem quite balanced. 
  As far Matthew, mainstream, I liked your comments. Caveat emptor.
 
 Whew, we have less in common all the time Steve.
if you are referring to my comment about Matthew (whatever his last name is), 
what is it that you find at odds with my comment? Do you feel he should be 
censored?  It seems to me that all I said, was that the man should be able to 
speak his peace.  Is that offensive?
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Steve Xeno

2013-01-12 Thread Carol
Share...reading some of the comments here brought to mind a blog piece I wrote 
awhile back entitled 'Carousel of Physicians.' It's a memoir type piece about 
part of my own search toward healing and wellness from chronic illnesses. 

Have you ever read Norman Cousins' book Anatomy of an Illness: As Perceived by 
the Patient? I know there is lots of info out there now on mind/body illness, 
etc. Anatomy of an Illness was one of the first I read and I still go back to 
it (in my head) from time to time. 

Here's a link to the PDF if you (or anyone in your family) is interested: 
http://playpen.meraka.csir.co.za/~acdc/education/Dr_Anvind_Gupa/Learners_Library_7_March_2007/Resources/books/Anatomy.pdf

I realize you may not be the one endeavoring to overcome any chronic health 
condition(s) and I am not assuming that. I hope your folks and sister are able 
to find a bit more wellness along the way. Caring for aging parents with 
illness conditions can be taxing.

Best...

***

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Thanks again, Steve.  Another big part of it for me is finding ways to help 
 my family with their various ailments.  My Mom and Dad both are now on so 
 many Western meds that I'd be nervous recommending natural supplements.  
 Though now that my Dad is out of the woods with the killer bacteria, I 
 mentioned echinecea tea as a way to boost his immune system.  But even in 
 this instance, I'm a little nervous about how it might combine harmfully with 
 his meds.  So I look into any form of energy medicine that comes along.  
 
 
 My youngest sister has a rare autoimmune disease.  But she is open to and 
 has pursued alternative health care along with allopathic treatments.  And 
 just this past year my younger sister had to have part of the bone in her arm 
 removed to be replaced by cement and rods.  She continues to be in a lot 
 of pain.  I'd hate to see her go on pain meds and she's unlikely to.  But 
 if I can find a natural supplement or energy work that can help her with 
 this, that would be great and it's definitely worth my time and money to 
 pursue.    
 
 
 To Xeno:  The thing is, so many spiritual seeking boomers are now aging.  
 And they see or have seen the problems with allopathic medicine.  For the 
 sake of their aging bodies, they search for better ways to deal all this.  
 And yes, most is psychosomatic.  I think even allopathic health care 
 practitioners recognize this.  
 
 I've said before that I think a lot of souls incarnated at this time because 
 it looked like a RELATIVELY easy time to grow and unfold full potential.  I 
 agree with you that there is no path, etc.  But it's pointless to live that 
 truth simply based on intellectual understanding.  I think we're living in 
 an amazing time when there's support to live this truth based on our own 
 experience.
 
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:44 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull 
 Alex etc.
  
 
   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
   
   snip
Something must be wrong in the approach, understanding, or technology.
   
   All those fancy words and analysis on ones side, (as well as as some
   not so subtle condescending remarks previously), and the person Share on
   the other, and I'll take the person Share anytime.
   
   That is, a person who seems happy, optimistic, very realistic and
   grounded.
  
  Then, if that is the case, why this forever searching for the next better 
  technique, the continual need for healing, guidance and advice? 
 To rephrase: someone continually looking for greater insight into themselves, 
 and wishing to bring into greater balance, unresolved issues.  Last I 
 checked, that is a lifelong process, and one that more people would benefit 
 from if it were made a greater priority.
 That is not grounded, possibly not content (happy), I would say yes to the 
 optimistic ( surely the next healer will be able to help me), 
 Again, I'm afraid you miss the mark.  There is no desperation there.  Just 
 a desire to deepen one's understanding about themselves and their 
 environment. (both near and far)
 negative on the realistic (I will find the answer when I try solution #100). 
 I think that covers it. But I might be convinced if you want to give some 
 examples, 
 especially of the grounded part. Share?
 You mean one who expresses herself well, captures nuance in a remarkable way, 
 and whose relationships with friends, family and community seem quite 
 balanced. 
   As far Matthew, mainstream, I liked your comments. Caveat emptor.
  
  Whew, we have less in common all the time Steve.
 if you are referring to my comment 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Steve Xeno

2013-01-12 Thread Jason

Hey Share, there are no proper documented scientific 
evidence that alternative therapies work.  There are no 
standardized parameters regarding herbal medicines, besides 
a lot of herbal medicines contain toxins that damage kidneys 
if used for too long a period of time.

However, there are a lot of connections between the mind and 
the body.  Both are interlinked.  I forgot the name of that 
therapy in which you consciously see your body's healing 
system and immune system healing your body. This has to be 
done regularly.

They have discovered 40 different auto-immune disorders and 
the most common is diabetes and arthritis in which your 
immune system destroys the cell lining in your knees.

Tell your sister to hang on with grit.  With stem cell 
research, regenerative medicine and other research going on, 
some path-breaking cure might come any time around.


---  Share Long  wrote:

 Thanks again, Steve.  Another big part of it for me is finding ways to help 
 my family with their various ailments.  My Mom and Dad both are now on so 
 many Western meds that I'd be nervous recommending natural supplements.  
 Though now that my Dad is out of the woods with the killer bacteria, I 
 mentioned echinecea tea as a way to boost his immune system.  But even in 
 this instance, I'm a little nervous about how it might combine harmfully with 
 his meds.  So I look into any form of energy medicine that comes along.  
 
 
 My youngest sister has a rare autoimmune disease.  But she is open to and has 
 pursued alternative health care along with allopathic treatments.  And just 
 this past year my younger sister had to have part of the bone in her arm 
 removed to be replaced by cement and rods.  She continues to be in a lot of 
 pain.  I'd hate to see her go on pain meds and she's unlikely to.  But if I 
 can find a natural supplement or energy work that can help her with this, 
 that would be great and it's definitely worth my time and money to pursue.  
 
 
 To Xeno:  The thing is, so many spiritual seeking boomers are now aging.  And 
 they see or have seen the problems with allopathic medicine.  For the sake of 
 their aging bodies, they search for better ways to deal all this.  And yes, 
 most is psychosomatic.  I think even allopathic health care practitioners 
 recognize this.  
 
 I've said before that I think a lot of souls incarnated at this time because 
 it looked like a RELATIVELY easy time to grow and unfold full potential.  I 
 agree with you that there is no path, etc.  But it's pointless to live that 
 truth simply based on intellectual understanding.  I think we're living in an 
 amazing time when there's support to live this truth based on our own 
 experience.
 
 
 
 
  From: seventhray27 
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:44 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Portlandia season 3 tonight to Judy Ravi Gull 
 Alex etc.
  
   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
   
   snip
Something must be wrong in the approach, understanding, or technology.
   
   All those fancy words and analysis on ones side, (as well as as some
   not so subtle condescending remarks previously), and the person Share on
   the other, and I'll take the person Share anytime.
   
   That is, a person who seems happy, optimistic, very realistic and
   grounded.
  
  Then, if that is the case, why this forever searching for the next better 
  technique, the continual need for healing, guidance and advice? 
 To rephrase: someone continually looking for greater insight into themselves, 
 and wishing to bring into greater balance, unresolved issues.  Last I 
 checked, that is a lifelong process, and one that more people would benefit 
 from if it were made a greater priority.
 That is not grounded, possibly not content (happy), I would say yes to the 
 optimistic ( surely the next healer will be able to help me), 
 Again, I'm afraid you miss the mark.  There is no desperation there.  Just 
 a desire to deepen one's understanding about themselves and their 
 environment. (both near and far)
 negative on the realistic (I will find the answer when I try solution #100). 
 I think that covers it. But I might be convinced if you want to give some 
 examples, 
 especially of the grounded part. Share?
 You mean one who expresses herself well, captures nuance in a remarkable way, 
 and whose relationships with friends, family and community seem quite 
 balanced. 
   As far Matthew, mainstream, I liked your comments. Caveat emptor.
  
  Whew, we have less in common all the time Steve.
 if you are referring to my comment about Matthew (whatever his last name is), 
 what is it that you find at odds with my comment? Do you feel he should be 
 censored?  It seems to me that all I said, was that the man should be able 
 to speak his peace.Â