[FairfieldLife] Re: "Proof" of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > "Hugo"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear about your countrymen Carde but I think this
> > > is more likely proof that private gun ownership is a big 
mistake.
> 
> 
> 
> > Why?
> 
> 
> Your kidding. But then you live in a country where 80 people
> are shot dead every day so maybe that really needs a reply: 
> This guy was unlikely to storm into his old school and strangle 
> ten people. Just as the English mass-murderers at Dunblane and 
> Hungerford wouldn't have become so notorious if they didn't have
> an arsenal of weapons under the bed. Madness.
>

*

Half of U.S. gun deaths are suicides, who would have picked another 
means if a gun was unavailable, so gun deaths are about 40 a day 
compared to about 110/day from traffic accidents:

http://daily.iflove.com/world/2008-07/01/content_6809520.htm

Mass murderers can readily do their thing with knives in places where 
guns are not available, like the guy in Tokyo who killed 7:

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/09/world/fg-stab9



[FairfieldLife] Re: "Proof" of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  
wrote:
> > >
> > >  (snip) 
> > > > The finnish are not bad, but like many indigenous people they 
> > simply 
> > > > cannot handle the effects of alcohol.
> > >   (snip)
> > > Yes, the indigenous people are suseptible to this dangerous 
drug 
> > > called alcohol.
> > > Yet, anything that might have a mind expanding effect like 
> > marijuana 
> > > or peyote, which the indigenous people use, is labled by 
society 
> as 
> > > unacceptible.
> > > Recently though, I heard that Denver, Colorado has allowed the 
> > > legalization of marijuana up to an once because they said that 
> they 
> > > haven't found the violence associated with alcohol applies to 
the 
> > > effects of marijuana.
> > > So, this is just one more lie, being perpetuated on our 'Free 
> > > Country'...because it seems that the feds will never get over 
the 
> > anti-
> > > hippie Reagan mentality...drug testing has become matter of 
fact, 
> > when 
> > > so many other drugs that make money for them, numb them out or 
> make 
> > > there dicks hard, are perfectly ok.
> > > If I see one more get your dick hard commercial on the TV
> > > Well you get the picture.
> > > R.G.
> > >
> > 
> > I think you'll find that the effects of smoking maryjoanna are 
> > learned, that is the hippy types who used to smoke it taught 
> > newcomers how to get high in their gentle way. It's very psycho-
> > somatic. There are plenty of young street muggers and gang members
> > in the UK who get stoned before going out on the prowl.
> > 
> > Come to think of it the Vikings used to get out of their heads
> > on mushrooms before going on a rape and pillage so maybe all drug 
> > effects are cultural. I hope the legalizers don't regret this too 
> > much.
> >
> So, what about the Sadhus of India?
> What would you say about this?
> I don't think they go on raping and pillaging.
> Not sure what you mean by psychosoatic?
> What are you talking about?
> Don't remember any reports of raping and pillaging at Woodstock...
> That must have been undereported.

I'm sure you could have worked it out from that with a bit more
care, but to enlarge: The effects of drugs are cultural, that is 
they are learned behaviour. Gentle hippy types teach newcomers 
to their group to have the same sort of experiences they do. As 
do the gangs in the UK only in their case it's all violent. It's
not the drugs but the attitude of the groups that use them to
different ends.

The sadhus in India would belong more to the hippy tradition of 
visions and (hopefully) greater understanding. 

Vikings, being a bit more aggressive and into bloody conquest 
used the same things mystics did. But they had a different 
mindset to start with you see? If they had met me and my mates 
history might have been different and we all would have gone 
to India for a pretty interesting party!

So no, there was no rape and pillage at woodstock but it's
more common at festivals these days, sad to say.




[FairfieldLife] Re: "Proof" of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> >  (snip) 
> > > The finnish are not bad, but like many indigenous people they 
> simply 
> > > cannot handle the effects of alcohol.
> >   (snip)
> > Yes, the indigenous people are suseptible to this dangerous drug 
> > called alcohol.
> > Yet, anything that might have a mind expanding effect like 
> marijuana 
> > or peyote, which the indigenous people use, is labled by society 
as 
> > unacceptible.
> > Recently though, I heard that Denver, Colorado has allowed the 
> > legalization of marijuana up to an once because they said that 
they 
> > haven't found the violence associated with alcohol applies to the 
> > effects of marijuana.
> > So, this is just one more lie, being perpetuated on our 'Free 
> > Country'...because it seems that the feds will never get over the 
> anti-
> > hippie Reagan mentality...drug testing has become matter of fact, 
> when 
> > so many other drugs that make money for them, numb them out or 
make 
> > there dicks hard, are perfectly ok.
> > If I see one more get your dick hard commercial on the TV
> > Well you get the picture.
> > R.G.
> >
> 
> I think you'll find that the effects of smoking maryjoanna are 
> learned, that is the hippy types who used to smoke it taught 
> newcomers how to get high in their gentle way. It's very psycho-
> somatic. There are plenty of young street muggers and gang members
> in the UK who get stoned before going out on the prowl.
> 
> Come to think of it the Vikings used to get out of their heads
> on mushrooms before going on a rape and pillage so maybe all drug 
> effects are cultural. I hope the legalizers don't regret this too 
> much.
>
So, what about the Sadhus of India?
What would you say about this?
I don't think they go on raping and pillaging.
Not sure what you mean by psychosoatic?
What are you talking about?
Don't remember any reports of raping and pillaging at Woodstock...
That must have been undereported.



[FairfieldLife] Re: "Proof" of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  (snip) 
> > The finnish are not bad, but like many indigenous people they 
simply 
> > cannot handle the effects of alcohol.
>   (snip)
> Yes, the indigenous people are suseptible to this dangerous drug 
> called alcohol.
> Yet, anything that might have a mind expanding effect like 
marijuana 
> or peyote, which the indigenous people use, is labled by society as 
> unacceptible.
> Recently though, I heard that Denver, Colorado has allowed the 
> legalization of marijuana up to an once because they said that they 
> haven't found the violence associated with alcohol applies to the 
> effects of marijuana.
> So, this is just one more lie, being perpetuated on our 'Free 
> Country'...because it seems that the feds will never get over the 
anti-
> hippie Reagan mentality...drug testing has become matter of fact, 
when 
> so many other drugs that make money for them, numb them out or make 
> there dicks hard, are perfectly ok.
> If I see one more get your dick hard commercial on the TV
> Well you get the picture.
> R.G.
>

I think you'll find that the effects of smoking maryjoanna are 
learned, that is the hippy types who used to smoke it taught 
newcomers how to get high in their gentle way. It's very psycho-
somatic. There are plenty of young street muggers and gang members
in the UK who get stoned before going out on the prowl.

Come to think of it the Vikings used to get out of their heads
on mushrooms before going on a rape and pillage so maybe all drug 
effects are cultural. I hope the legalizers don't regret this too 
much.




[FairfieldLife] Re: "Proof" of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Hugo"  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to hear about your countrymen Carde but I think this
> > is more likely proof that private gun ownership is a big mistake.



> Why?


Your kidding. But then you live in a country where 80 people
are shot dead every day so maybe that really needs a reply: 
This guy was unlikely to storm into his old school and strangle 
ten people. Just as the English mass-murderers at Dunblane and 
Hungerford wouldn't have become so notorious if they didn't have
an arsenal of weapons under the bed. Madness.




[FairfieldLife] Re: "Proof" of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Robert
 (snip) 
> The finnish are not bad, but like many indigenous people they simply 
> cannot handle the effects of alcohol.
  (snip)
Yes, the indigenous people are suseptible to this dangerous drug 
called alcohol.
Yet, anything that might have a mind expanding effect like marijuana 
or peyote, which the indigenous people use, is labled by society as 
unacceptible.
Recently though, I heard that Denver, Colorado has allowed the 
legalization of marijuana up to an once because they said that they 
haven't found the violence associated with alcohol applies to the 
effects of marijuana.
So, this is just one more lie, being perpetuated on our 'Free 
Country'...because it seems that the feds will never get over the anti-
hippie Reagan mentality...drug testing has become matter of fact, when 
so many other drugs that make money for them, numb them out or make 
there dicks hard, are perfectly ok.
If I see one more get your dick hard commercial on the TV
Well you get the picture.
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Re: "Proof" of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "While Finns have a reputation for violence, firearms almost never 
> enter the picture. Finland does have the highest murder rate in 
> Western Europe, but those cases—commonly related to alcohol or 
> domestic abuse—often involve knives rather than guns. 

A swedish fellow I know was stabbed with a knife by a finnish 
construction-worker. When arrested he protested to the police 
saying "But I did not hurt him, I only scratched him !"

The finnish are not bad, but like many indigenous people they simply 
cannot handle the effects of alcohol.

But cardemaister, being gay, surely is not drinking much.



[FairfieldLife] Re: "Proof" of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread lurkernomore20002000
"Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry to hear about your countrymen Carde but I think this
> is more likely proof that private gun ownership is a big mistake.
>
Why?




[FairfieldLife] Re: "Proof" of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  
wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Shortly after yesterdays(9/23) school shooting here in Finland
> > the participants of Finnish Big Brother started talking
> > about the similar incident last November. One of the participants,
> > Mr. Johan Grahn, said (paraphrase): "What if a major accident has
> > happened?"
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdwIlhX877o
> >
> 


> Sorry to hear about your countrymen Carde but I think this
> is more likely proof that private gun ownership is a big mistake.
>

***

"While Finns have a reputation for violence, firearms almost never 
enter the picture. Finland does have the highest murder rate in 
Western Europe, but those cases—commonly related to alcohol or 
domestic abuse—often involve knives rather than guns. 

http://www.slate.com/id/2200722/



[FairfieldLife] Re: "Proof" of collective consciousness??

2008-09-24 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Shortly after yesterdays(9/23) school shooting here in Finland
> the participants of Finnish Big Brother started talking
> about the similar incident last November. One of the participants,
> Mr. Johan Grahn, said (paraphrase): "What if a major accident has
> happened?"
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdwIlhX877o
>

Sorry to hear about your countrymen Carde but I think this
is more likely proof that private gun ownership is a big mistake.