Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do => alternative to surgery

[I am the eternal]

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:30 PM, amarnath  wrote:
> how about Cryotherapy; my friend had that instead of surgery
> this is a medical procedure done at conventional hospitals
>
> http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/prostate-cancer-cryotherapy/PC00022
>
> good luck,
> anatol

My friend and I had looked into cryotherapy.  It'll probably be
offered by the surgeon.  The problem with it is of course the prostate
isn't all that big.  This is effectively killing the prostate and
potentially surrounding tissue and nerves.  The Da Vinci robot looks
to be about the neatest of treatments but the problem with all of
these physical therapies is that it's just so easy to cut a bit too
much out.  A sexually active man does need the little donut, even to
father children.  But he definitely needs the nerves near the
prostate.  That's why a chemical approach (but not chemical
castration, which is another therapy) is preferred.  I'm going to urge
my bud to go with neutraceuticals for a couple of months, getting his
PSA checked each month.  If my friend's PSA increases, time to call it
quits.  If it stays the same or even better decreases, then I'll let
my friend decide when to go back to the Urologist for another biopsy.

I thank you and I'm sure my bud thanks you.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Prostate cancer. What to do => alternative to surgery

[amarnath]

how about Cryotherapy; my friend had that instead of surgery
this is a medical procedure done at conventional hospitals

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/prostate-cancer-cryotherapy/PC00022

good luck,
anatol

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "I am the eternal"
 wrote:
>
> Do you read your Yahoo email?  Since I'm the guy with all the science
> (and a med school background), I'm running interference for my friend
> on this right now.
> 
> Money is not an issue here.  The issue that I can see is precisely
> what my friend does once he gets tossed out on his ear by the
> urologist for choosing to go AMA.  I'm a member of Life Extension
> Foundation.  I'm going to send an email to them to see if they know of
> any doctors in Austin who'd be wiling to help with this.  My friend
> will really need a way to see if the alternate therapies are working.
> That means he'd need a doctor to periodically test his PSA, as PSA
> appears in this case to be a reliable indicator of the progression of
> my friend's prostate cancer.  If, with alternate therapy, the PSA
> continues to rise, at some point he'd have to call off the alternate
> treatment, go for another biopsy and the surgery.  Any thoughts on how
> to handle this?
> 
> I am familiar with the curcumin and resveratrol.  I also know that for
> about 3 years my friend was taking LDN.  It's entirely possible that
> my friend's PSA took 7 years to go from 4 to 12 and not a higher
> reading because of the LDN.  But I'd advise my friend that if he can't
> almost immediately get his PSA down to perhaps 10, he's got to bite
> the bullet and have the surgery.  If he can get his PSA down below 10
> and keep it there, well, he can buy sufficient time for truly
> targetted anti-prostate cancer treatments to be developed and have the
> cancer killed with a "magic bullet".  Of course if the alternate
> treatment keeps getting his PSA down, so much the better.
> 
> Now to get someone to measure his PSA.  There's always the south of
> the Rio Grande route but that's a little scary.  Perhaps LEF offers
> PSA testing.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 2:36 PM, yifuxero  wrote:
> > ---assuming the C is in the slowly progressing type; he should avoid
> > surgery at this time even though that may seem to be the quickest fix.
> > Naturally, the urologist will counter my suggestions but again, take
> > the ALTERNATIVE route.: (disclaimer - I don't market supplements or
> > have any connection to the companies listed, other than being a
> > customer):
> >
>