[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Shankar

[merudanda]

thanks Rick
love you
...and cherish your posting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: Jerry Katz umbada@...
> Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 3:53 AM
> Subject: [NDhighlights] #4784 - Wednesday, December 12, 2012 -
>
>
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>
>
> #4784 - Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - Editor: Jerry Katz
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>
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> The Nonduality Highlights 

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NDhighlights/
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>
>   _
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>
>
>
> Ravi Shankar died Tuesday, December 11, 2012, at age 92. You'll come
across
> many obituaries and articles, but I don't know how many of them will
strike
> the chord of nonduality. I tried to approach that in this August 23,
2005
> issue of the Highlights:
>
>
>
> http://www.nonduality.com/hl2239.htm
>
>
>
> It is reprinted here, but you might want to click on the link above
and read
> the more colorful original version with photos.
>
>
>
> ~ ~ ~
>
> This issue features a selection from Raga Mala: The Autobiography of
Ravi
> Shankar. The material was typed from the book and appears nowhere
else.
>
> The following Amazon review says what I would have said about the
beauty of
> the book's design. The book overflows with photographs and is
highlighted
> with gold: gold endpages, gold lettering for chapter headings, and
several
> gold pages within the book.
>
> "Raga Mala is the autobiography of pandit Ravi Shankar, told in story,
> profusely illustrated [some in color], beautifully bound [with
luxurious
> endpapers], on high quality, beautiful papers. It tells his story
> [introduced by George Harrison] from his early childhood, stage [as a
dancer
> in his brothers famous troupe] to his study of sitar and Hindustani
music
> with a master[Khan], to his gradual emergence in the west. I had no
idea,
> that he had performed at Carnegie hall in the 1930's, that John
Coltrane's
> son Ravi was named after him, or that he was well known BEFORE the
Monterey
> pop or woodstock concerts [he called woodstock "terrifying']. This is
a
> wonderful book, it tells the ENTIRE ARC of the life of pandit Ravi
Shankar
> [including his apparent heir and pupil, his daughter Anoushka], and
does so
> with such a well put together volume. The papers, the binding, the
> photographic reproductions are exquisite. The publisher has done a
> remarkable job. A classic book, both in form and content."
>
> You may order the book at
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1566492173/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8
>

89&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1566492173&linkCode=as2&tag=nondualitysa\
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uali
> tysal-20
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>   _
>
> 
>
> Our tradition teaches us that sound is God - Nada Brahma. That is,
musical
> sound and the musical experience are steps to the realization of the
self.
> We view music as a kind of spiritual discipline that raises one's
inner
> being to divine peacefulness and bliss. We are taught that one of the
> fundamental goals a Hindu works toward in his lifetime is a knowledge
of the
> true meaning of the universe - its unchanging, eternal essence - and
this is
> realized first by a complete knowledge of one's self and one's own
nature.
> The highest aim of our music is to reveal the essence of the universe
it
> reflects, and the ragas are among the means by which this essence can
be
> apprehended. Thus, through music, one can reach God.
> -Ravi Shankar
>
>
>
> Being a Brahmin, I learnt some mantras from gurus as a child, and
still
> repeat them in my mind as often as I can today. I do firmly believe
that
> they have tremendous power. For a few years in the late Fifties and
early
> Sixties, I regularly practiced hatha yoga, but gradually the pace of
my life
> made it impossible to continue with it (although I still maintain my
regular
> morning meditations, plus one before giving a recital). Many times in
my
> life I have been attracted with great surges of love and bhakti
(reverence
> or devotion) to some godly persons I have known, such as Tat Baba, Ma
> Anandamayi, Satya Sai Baba and the late Shankaracharya of Kanchi. Some
I
> never saw have also exerted a strong pull on me, such as Ramakrishna
> Paramahansa, Lahiri Mahasai, Trailange Swami, Babaji and Swami
Vivekananda.
> But in one's daily life and existence it is hard to attain cosmic
> consciousness. Most of the time the only self-realisation states one
is
> aware of are physical and mundane ones. I am sure many of you have
felt this
> too.
>
>
>
> But MUSIC - that is the thing for me! Mostly it has been when deeply
> immersed in my music that I have felt that surge of joy, merging into
the
> indefinable 'drunken with beauty' moment. Especially when I become
attuned
> to my sitar, that is the route for me to touch the heart and the God
within
> myself, and within my millions of listeners over the years.
>
>
>
> The spir

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Shankar has passed.

[John]

He lived a long and successful life as a musician.  It is also fortunate that 
he was able to pass down his knowledge of the sitar ragas to one of his 
daughters.  So too, he was able to pass his musical talent to another famous 
daughter, Norah Jones.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/12/ravi-shankar-dead-dies-sitar-legend_n_2281885.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Shankar NGO? Scam?

[martyboi]

IAHV was started with the Dali Lama. As I understand it, the "books"
are open to the public.


> Bait and Switch?
> 
> Seems he had a good teacher.
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2bwkhp
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Shankar - Fraud

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>   I don't think many people here stab TM,  but they certainly take a stab 
> at MMY and the 
TM-org.
>
>   Perhaps spending years of training under MMY must have had some effect 
> on SSRS.??   
They say MMY was banging all the chicks.  At least SSRS is clean on that front.
>   

Yeah, since there's been no stories that it happened, it must not have 
happened. OTOH, we 
all know that all stories about MMY are true, as long as they are negattive...






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Shankar - Fraud

[Peter]

 
> off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 20:57:54 -
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ravi Shankar - Fraud
> 
>
>   I like how all the SSRS people and those who'll
> support ANYTHING to 
> take a stab at TM, get all up in angry and
> vociferous when anyone says 
> anything about their mommy. It is amusing to watch.

I'm glad I can be your clown!

> Ravi Shankar "Advanced degree at 17" -- Fraud 
> Quote: ""He never finished college at all, much less
> obtaining "an
> advanced degree in Physics..." He was an electrical
> engineering
> student, I know some of his classmates from
> Bangalore (his family
> moved to Bangalore when their house was supposedly
> washed away in
> Tamil Nadu -- who knows, that's what he told me),
> and they said he
> dropped out at 17, before really starting college.""

I know nothing about his formal education. Frankly,
who gives a crap!

> Ravi Shankar "20 million followers" -- made up pie
> in the shy figure. 
> Could be true, but probability it is not since the
> followers keep 
> making other stuff up.

Now that's some fascinating logic in that argument!



> 
> Watered down version of 60's Maharishi which appeals
> to drug-fried 
> bains of baby-boomers looking for a mommy.

And this hypothesis is based on???


> 
> OffWorld

Yes, completely.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Shankar - Fraud

[Jason Spock]

       I don't think many people here stab TM,  but they certainly take a stab at MMY and the TM-org.         Perhaps spending years of training under MMY must have had some effect on SSRS.??   They say MMY was banging all the chicks.  At least SSRS is clean on that front.  off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 20:57:54 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ravi Shankar - Fraud     I like how all the SSRS people and those who'll support
 ANYTHING to take a stab at TM, get all up in angry and vociferous when anyone says anything about their mommy. It is amusing to watch.Ravi Shankar "Advanced degree at 17" -- Fraud Quote: ""He never finished college at all, much less obtaining "anadvanced degree in Physics..." He was an electrical engineeringstudent, I know some of his classmates from Bangalore (his familymoved to Bangalore when their house was supposedly washed away inTamil Nadu -- who knows, that's what he told me), and they said hedropped out at 17, before really starting college.""http://tinyurl.com/zhnknRavi Shankar "20 million followers" -- made up pie in the shy figure. Could be true, but probability it is not since the followers keep making
 other stuff up.Watered down version of 60's Maharishi which appeals to drug-fried bains of baby-boomers looking for a mommy.OffWorld       
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Shankar - Fraud

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I like how all the SSRS people and those who'll support ANYTHING 
> to 
> > > take a stab at TM, get all up in angry and vociferous when 
> anyone says 
> > > anything about their mommy. It is amusing to watch.
> > > 
> > > Ravi Shankar "Advanced degree at 17" -- Fraud 
> > > Quote: ""He never finished college at all, much less 
> obtaining "an
> > > advanced degree in Physics..." He was an electrical engineering
> > > student, I know some of his classmates from Bangalore (his family
> > > moved to Bangalore when their house was supposedly washed away in
> > > Tamil Nadu -- who knows, that's what he told me), and they said 
> he
> > > dropped out at 17, before really starting college.""
> > > http://tinyurl.com/zhnkn
> > > 
> > > Ravi Shankar "20 million followers" -- made up pie in the shy 
> figure. 
> > > Could be true, but probability it is not since the followers 
> keep 
> > > making other stuff up.
> > > 
> > > Watered down version of 60's Maharishi which appeals to drug-
> fried 
> > > bains of baby-boomers looking for a mommy.
> > > 
> > > OffWorld
> > 
> > I think this is essentially the fifth post in an hour where you 
> have
> > said the same thing. 25th post in 24 hours where you have said
> > essentially the same thing.
> > 
> > Did your habit of massive repetition (perhaps driven by short-term
> > memory loss) start with TM or were your born with it? :)>>
> 
> Nope, just rubbing it in for drug-fried brains of baby-boomers such 
> as yourself looking for a mommy in yet another guru :-) 

And what guru is that? I was thinking Kiera Knightly. Is she taking
disciples?

> That must be why you spend endless hours a day month after month on 
> this board. 

Not at all. I simply type and think fast. You apparently are not
blessed with the same attributes.

>I, on the other hand, am here while for a tiny amount of 
> time. D'you find your mommy yet? :-) 

She died two years ago of Alzhiemers. But thanks for asking. About the
same time my dog was killed by an errant car. 

But i have been posting here for four years or so, so I don't think I
am searching for either. There must be a better explanation.
 
> OffWorld







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Shankar - Fraud

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> wrote:
> >
> > I like how all the SSRS people and those who'll support ANYTHING 
to 
> > take a stab at TM, get all up in angry and vociferous when 
anyone says 
> > anything about their mommy. It is amusing to watch.
> > 
> > Ravi Shankar "Advanced degree at 17" -- Fraud 
> > Quote: ""He never finished college at all, much less 
obtaining "an
> > advanced degree in Physics..." He was an electrical engineering
> > student, I know some of his classmates from Bangalore (his family
> > moved to Bangalore when their house was supposedly washed away in
> > Tamil Nadu -- who knows, that's what he told me), and they said 
he
> > dropped out at 17, before really starting college.""
> > http://tinyurl.com/zhnkn
> > 
> > Ravi Shankar "20 million followers" -- made up pie in the shy 
figure. 
> > Could be true, but probability it is not since the followers 
keep 
> > making other stuff up.
> > 
> > Watered down version of 60's Maharishi which appeals to drug-
fried 
> > bains of baby-boomers looking for a mommy.
> > 
> > OffWorld
> 
> I think this is essentially the fifth post in an hour where you 
have
> said the same thing. 25th post in 24 hours where you have said
> essentially the same thing.
> 
> Did your habit of massive repetition (perhaps driven by short-term
> memory loss) start with TM or were your born with it? :)>>

Nope, just rubbing it in for drug-fried brains of baby-boomers such 
as yourself looking for a mommy in yet another guru :-) 
That must be why you spend endless hours a day month after month on 
this board. I, on the other hand, am here while for a tiny amount of 
time. D'you find your mommy yet? :-) 

OffWorld






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Shankar - Fraud

[new . morning]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I like how all the SSRS people and those who'll support ANYTHING to 
> take a stab at TM, get all up in angry and vociferous when anyone says 
> anything about their mommy. It is amusing to watch.
> 
> Ravi Shankar "Advanced degree at 17" -- Fraud 
> Quote: ""He never finished college at all, much less obtaining "an
> advanced degree in Physics..." He was an electrical engineering
> student, I know some of his classmates from Bangalore (his family
> moved to Bangalore when their house was supposedly washed away in
> Tamil Nadu -- who knows, that's what he told me), and they said he
> dropped out at 17, before really starting college.""
> http://tinyurl.com/zhnkn
> 
> Ravi Shankar "20 million followers" -- made up pie in the shy figure. 
> Could be true, but probability it is not since the followers keep 
> making other stuff up.
> 
> Watered down version of 60's Maharishi which appeals to drug-fried 
> bains of baby-boomers looking for a mommy.
> 
> OffWorld

I think this is essentially the fifth post in an hour where you have
said the same thing. 25th post in 24 hours where you have said
essentially the same thing.

Did your habit of massive repetition (perhaps driven by short-term
memory loss) start with TM or were your born with it? :)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Shankar "Advanced degree at 17" -- Fraud

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Quote: ""He never finished college at all, much less obtaining "an 
> advanced degree in Physics..." He was an electrical engineering 
> student, I know some of his classmates from Bangalore (his family 
> moved to Bangalore when their house was supposedly washed away in 
> Tamil Nadu -- who knows, that's what he told me), and they said he 
> dropped out at 17, before really starting college.""
> http://tinyurl.com/zhnkn
> 
> OffWorld>>.

Oops , these things sometimes take forever to come through, so you 
think you must have not sent them - thus the double post. Must be some 
SSRS mafia watchdog referees on FFL.









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