[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-07 Thread bbrigante
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The mall store plan has already reached stage two in the life-cycle 
> of 
> > TM projects!!:
> > 
> > 1) Enthusiasm
> > 2) Promises of support
> > 3) Disillusionment
> > 4) Alarm
> > 5) Search for someone to blame
> > 6) Rewards for all the non-participants
> 

> Where are the steps for anger, guilt, denial, and acceptance?  -):

that comes only after the funeral for the project...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The mall store plan has already reached stage two in the life-cycle 
of 
> TM projects!!:
> 
> 1) Enthusiasm
> 2) Promises of support
> 3) Disillusionment
> 4) Alarm
> 5) Search for someone to blame
> 6) Rewards for all the non-participants

Where are the steps for anger, guilt, denial, and acceptance?  -):




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-06 Thread off_world_beings

> 
> I prefer nasya with brahmi ghee, two nights in a row every year 
or so. Hot baths and my sadhanas clear me out as fast as I need them 
to. Kundalini burns the rest up without a trace. Mystical, and 
personal. The best way. Thanks for the advice. Castor oil huh?  We'll 
see... maybe...>>>

I think you should try what I said once at least.
It will remove the residue from your brain that tends to bring back 
addictions. Do it 4 times a year and the result is gaurenteed.
Its your call though. Only a few true warriors can take the 4 days 
build of ghee, and grand finale of 100 mil of warm ghee on the last 
morning, and the 60 mil of castor oil in the evening. 
I bet you if you try it once, you will agree that it is worth the icky 
feeling for a day or two.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-06 Thread jim_flanegin
Ha-ha, good one! but I thought it was a *12* stage (step) prog??

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The mall store plan has already reached stage two in the life-cycle 
of 
> TM projects!!:
> 
> 1) Enthusiasm
> 2) Promises of support
> 3) Disillusionment
> 4) Alarm
> 5) Search for someone to blame
> 6) Rewards for all the non-participants




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-06 Thread bbrigante
The mall store plan has already reached stage two in the life-cycle of 
TM projects!!:

1) Enthusiasm
2) Promises of support
3) Disillusionment
4) Alarm
5) Search for someone to blame
6) Rewards for all the non-participants




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
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> 
> You are f'n beautiful!
> 
> There's beauty in asymmetry, as most aesthetics teaches, as 
assymetry moves the eye whereas perfect balance is stagnant and 
basically nullifies the motion and emotion of the experience.  One 
might say, well then a mandala is therefore unaesthetic right? Not 
so, the mandala in general is not a balanced work as each concentric 
ring is different from the last.  This imbalance leads the eye 
inwards.
> 
> lurk
> 
> P.S. What is magical thinking?  Or do you mean the magickal type?
> 
> I mean the ego oriented centricism that says that every whim one 
has is right and correct and has sympathetic natural consequence, 
like when a baby cried momma comes with a milk bottle. Not every 
thought has value, not evey desire will be fulfilled, not every 
person gets what they want, merely because they want it. If someone 
thinks in this baby centered way as if the universe is merely there 
to serve their own needs then they actually cut themselves off from 
the larger flow of development that is called life.  A person wants 
the perfect apple but the apples are out. They turn around and go 
sulk. Instead there are perfect kiwis and strawberries. The magician 
(1) couldn't manifest but instead the world (21) did.

I'll just stick with wishing you "Happy Anniversary".

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Llundrub





You are f'n beautiful!
 
There's beauty in asymmetry, as 
most aesthetics teaches, as assymetry moves the eye whereas perfect balance is 
stagnant and basically nullifies the motion and emotion of the experience.  
One might say, well then a mandala is therefore unaesthetic right? Not so, the 
mandala in general is not a balanced work as each concentric ring is different 
from the last.  This imbalance leads the eye 
inwards.lurkP.S. What is magical thinking?  Or do 
you mean the magickal type?
 
I mean the ego oriented centricism 
that says that every whim one has is right and correct and has sympathetic 
natural consequence, like when a baby cried momma comes with a milk bottle. Not 
every thought has value, not evey desire will be fulfilled, not every person 
gets what they want, merely because they want it. If someone thinks in this baby 
centered way as if the universe is merely there to serve their own needs then 
they actually cut themselves off from the larger flow of development that is 
called life.  A person wants the perfect apple but the apples are out. They 
turn around and go sulk. Instead there are perfect kiwis and strawberries. The 
magician (1) couldn't manifest but instead the world (21) 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Llundrub





I hear you. The lack of nature support means one thing to me. 
Maharishi's thing either works or it doesn't. If it is to generete world 
peace/enlightenment, then it will do so. Its now or never. There are no 
other times when such a concept could be more apporopriate. I seem to be 
getting good support lately, (through hard work too), and pretty much 
getting towards everything I ever wanted in life. I LOVE IT !
 
 
-Well, there were many factors 
involved. I can't detail the whole picture for you, but here's a few 
elements.  One, I didn't know exactly what I wanted. Deep down inside I 
knew I wanted something but wasn't sure what. That cloudiness of course 
manifested as cloudiness.  I knew I wanted a good woman, and that I did 
find.  I have been with her faithfully for fifteen years.  And 
happy.  So that's one success story.  As a kid I was a nihilist and 
anarchist so I wouldn't have been able to manifest anything at all with that 
mental framework. I had to change my own mind.  Support of nature therefore 
had much more intricate goals for me as far as the working through problems in 
such a way as to eventually make me thankful to be alive at all in general, and 
appreciative for what I had.  
 
Coming from LA I had been taught to 
value things by skin deep judgements. That's not what I wanted to do or be but I 
didn't know what real values were. It took me a long time to get some.  
Support of nature is a fine catch-all phrase but what does it mean really?  
Does it mean one just gets any old thing that they want on a whim, or does it 
mean that they somehow come deeper in tune with those subtle and unvoiced 
yearnings for the things that bring depth and breadth to ones life itself. This 
was the lesson I had to learn before I could even have support of nature. Ii had 
to find value in order for there to be such a thing at all. I know this sounds 
weird as most people learn this early on, but my father died when I was 8 and I 
was left isolated in family of women who couldn't guide me. I had to figure it 
all out myself. 
 
Finally, I had superficial desires 
like for sex, money, popularity, health, and so on, but none of these things in 
themselves have any meaning without them being by products of a deeper will. 
It's that will that I had to find and earn the right to wield. Ironically, I 
found that will in studying the Bodhisattva motivation, because I found that my 
whole life I have wanted to champion the underdog.
 
I really didn't know who I was 
until I accepted the Bodhisattva vows once again. Then all of a sudden, the 
previous pointlessness of my life made sense, I was bound here to serve.Now I 
know what I should be doing at every step. Serving. The lesson was always there 
but I didn't see it. I have always been serving and yet because I was so selfish 
I had great enmity for those who I served.  Because until recently I only 
served myself, and yet I always felt hollow as a person and so how could I serve 
that hollowness?  No matter what I tried to fill myself with I still felt 
hollow. But I found that if I serve others I am able to use my ego as a tool to 
further serve without having to eradicate or efface my own personality.  
And the plans for this are in the works in a business that I am working on with 
a friend from the inner city. Details withheld.
 
Hard work. Yes, I have been there 
for a long time.  I am proud that because of my profession I have the 
actual scars to prove it, and being as dense as I am, I need these reminders to 
show me what I have done, and also because I have nothing in terms of material 
gain as of yet to show my accomplishments.
 
 
 
 
Take organic ghee for four days every 4 months (or 6 months). First 
day in the morning 25 mils, then 50, then 75 mils, then 100. Then castor 
oil at 60 mils on the last evening (with orange juice and orange to bite 
into). Then shit all night. This will detoxify the former drug use and make 
you feel better overall. It will even detox the brain. I know you 
probably know this, and I know they changed it a bit, but it is still a good 
method. Very powerful. Worth getting back to. World peace? h...hope 
so.
 
I prefer nasya with brahmi 
ghee, two nights in a row every year or so. Hot baths and my sadhanas clear me 
out as fast as I need them to. Kundalini burns the rest up without a trace. 
Mystical, and personal. The best way. Thanks for the advice. Castor oil 
huh?  We'll see... maybe...To 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe a little bit of drivel is better that a stream of 
> vomit.  
> > > Luv ya 
> > > > OW.
> > > > 
> > > > lurk>>>
> > > 
> > > There ya go again. Snarcy one-liners. Ya just can't help 
> yourself 
> > > can ya?
> > 
> > I can just hear an Irish accent here.  How nice it sounds.
> > 
> > lurk
> 
> 
> Arkansas.

Arkansas, England.  (just south of Manchester)




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Yeah, after I graduated MIU, I went to law school for a year and 
then dropped out due to low grades and lack of funds. Then I started 
waiting tables at a famous New Orleans restaurant notorious for drug 
use, where I started merely by experimenting with all the substances 
I hadn't used during college, and then before I knew it I was 
seriously addicted.  It took me about three years to give up crack, 
and I still did powder socially for another ten more years, and then 
gave that up. I still smoke weed, though not the last week or two, 
and yada yada. During these 18 years since I graduated MIU I have 
been clean on and off about a full half of the time staying clean 
for a few years then not, and then cleaning up again. By not clean, 
I don't mean going back to crack addiction, but drinking, smoking, 
powder, pills, that shit. I am not one to be sanctimonious at this 
point. The crack years were a time of great depression for me where 
I found that nature didn't support just because I thought it should. 
It was a time for me to learn that I had merely been vainglorious 
about my spritual state, but not truthfully grounded in it.  I don't 
regret the experience, though the idea of ever doing crack again 
gives me shivers of illness and makes me want to puke just thinking 
about it. Those were hard times. They also showed me the fallacy of 
magical thinking.

You are f'n beautiful!

lurk

P.S. What is magical thinking?  Or do you mean the magickal type?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Yeah, after I graduated MIU, I went to law school for a year and 
then dropped out due to low grades and lack of funds. Then I started 
waiting tables at a famous New Orleans restaurant notorious for drug 
use, where I started merely by experimenting with all the substances 
I hadn't used during college, and then before I knew it I was 
seriously addicted.  It took me about three years to give up crack, 
and I still did powder socially for another ten more years, and then 
gave that up. I still smoke weed, though not the last week or two, 
and yada yada. During these 18 years since I graduated MIU I have 
been clean on and off about a full half of the time staying clean 
for a few years then not, and then cleaning up again. By not clean, 
I don't mean going back to crack addiction, but drinking, smoking, 
powder, pills, that shit. I am not one to be sanctimonious at this 
point. The crack years were a time of great depression for me where 
I found that nature didn't support just because I thought it should. 
It was a time for me to learn that I had merely been vainglorious 
about my spritual state, but not truthfully grounded in it.  I don't 
regret the experience, though the idea of ever doing crack again 
gives me shivers of illness and makes me want to puke just thinking 
about it. Those were hard times. They also showed me the fallacy of 
magical thinking.>>


I hear you. The lack of nature support means one thing to me. 
Maharishi's thing either works or it doesn't. If it is to generete 
world peace/enlightenment, then it will do so. Its now or never. 
There are no other times when such a concept could be more 
apporopriate. 
I seem to be getting good support lately, (through hard work too), 
and pretty much getting towards everything I ever wanted in life. 
I LOVE IT !

Take organic ghee for four days every 4 months (or 6 months). First 
day in the morning 25 mils, then 50, then 75 mils, then 100. Then 
castor oil at 60 mils on the last evening (with orange juice and 
orange to bite into). Then shit all night. This will detoxify the 
former drug use and make you feel better overall. It will even detox 
the brain. 
I know you probably know this, and I know they changed it a bit, but 
it is still a good method. Very powerful. Worth getting back to. 

World peace? h...hope so.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Maybe a little bit of drivel is better that a stream of 
vomit.  
> > Luv ya 
> > > OW.
> > > 
> > > lurk>>>
> > 
> > There ya go again. Snarcy one-liners. Ya just can't help 
yourself 
> > can ya?
> 
> I can just hear an Irish accent here.  How nice it sounds.
> 
> lurk


Arkansas.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Llundrub





Yeah, after I graduated MIU, I went 
to law school for a year and then dropped out due to low grades and lack of 
funds. Then I started waiting tables at a famous New Orleans restaurant 
notorious for drug use, where I started merely by experimenting with all the 
substances I hadn't used during college, and then before I knew it I was 
seriously addicted.  It took me about three years to give up crack, and I 
still did powder socially for another ten more years, and then gave that up. I 
still smoke weed, though not the last week or two, and yada yada. During 
these 18 years since I graduated MIU I have been clean on and 
off about a full half of the time staying clean for a few years then not, 
and then cleaning up again. By not clean, I don't mean going back to crack 
addiction, but drinking, smoking, powder, pills, that shit. I am not one to be 
sanctimonious at this point. The crack years were a time of great 
depression for me where I found that nature didn't support just because I 
thought it should. It was a time for me to learn that I had merely been 
vainglorious about my spritual state, but not truthfully grounded in it.  I 
don't regret the experience, though the idea of ever doing crack again gives me 
shivers of illness and makes me want to puke just thinking about it. Those were 
hard times. They also showed me the fallacy of magical thinking.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  off_world_beings 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:18 
PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in 
  Malls
  So what the hell happened? You're always talking about 
  taking crack and stuff. That must have after MIU right?--- In 
  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
  wrote:> Dude, I was so on the program that I had my name on a 
  plaque in the GD. One of six people accorded that fair to low honor. 
  >   - Original Message - >   From: 
  off_world_beings >   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:01 PM>   
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls> > >   
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" >   
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>   > --- In 
  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>   > wrote:>   
  > > Offish, I wish I knew your identity. But tell me, did you 
  go>   > > to MIU during 83-87 at all?  
  >   > >   > I'm not off_world, but I 
  was at MIU in '83-84, and I don't remember>   > you 
  unless you were the guy in the room below me in the basement 
  of>   > Howard dorm with a really loud stereo (Polk 
  loudspeakers, IIRC.)>   > >   > 
  Alex>>>> >   Could you smell the aroma of the 
  weed coming up from his room?> > > > 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Maybe a little bit of drivel is better that a stream of vomit.  
> Luv ya 
> > OW.
> > 
> > lurk>>>
> 
> There ya go again. Snarcy one-liners. Ya just can't help yourself 
> can ya?

I can just hear an Irish accent here.  How nice it sounds.

lurk




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread off_world_beings
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
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> 
> > > 
> > > Whoa.  A kinda normal post from OW.  No one being blasted, no 
> > > insults. I may stop skipping OW's entries. 
> > > 
> > > lurk>>>
> > 
> > 
> > Nah, keep skipping them dude. 
> > You don't have nothing to say anyway, 'cept snarcy one-liners.
> 
> Maybe a little bit of drivel is better that a stream of vomit.  
Luv ya 
> OW.
> 
> lurk>>>

There ya go again. Snarcy one-liners. Ya just can't help yourself 
can ya?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread off_world_beings
So what the hell happened? You're always talking about taking crack 
and stuff. That must have after MIU right?


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> Dude, I was so on the program that I had my name on a plaque in 
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>   - Original Message - 
>   From: off_world_beings 
>   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:01 PM
>   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls
> 
> 
>   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   > wrote:
>   > > Offish, I wish I knew your identity. But tell me, did you go
>   > > to MIU during 83-87 at all?  
>   > 
>   > I'm not off_world, but I was at MIU in '83-84, and I don't 
remember
>   > you unless you were the guy in the room below me in the 
basement of
>   > Howard dorm with a really loud stereo (Polk loudspeakers, 
IIRC.)
>   > 
>   > Alex>>>
> 
>   Could you smell the aroma of the weed coming up from his room?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another thing my friend said about malls is that they are very 
fussy about
> who they¹ll lease space to. They want each establishment to 
contribute to
> the overall attractiveness of the mall, so that all reinforce one 
another
> and attract more people.

**

The TMO is getting a lot of solid publicity from all the study on 
increased longevity published in the cardiology journal, so I don't 
see a problem on the basis of being potentially attractive, and the 
existing TMO ayurveda clinics are presentable enough, so the TMO can 
show they can run such a biz (although they can't make enough to 
cover expenses -- ask Rodgers Badgett).

However, there may a conflict with current tenants, like Aveda, who 
sell spa treatments and beauty stuff. Mall tenants get agreements on 
how much competition they're going to face, and if the market is not 
considered capable of supporting two spa treatment stores, then mall 
mgmt might deny the TMO the ability to do treatments, but allow TM 
teaching and MAPI sales, in deference to existing tenants.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> > 
> > Whoa.  A kinda normal post from OW.  No one being blasted, no 
> > insults. I may stop skipping OW's entries. 
> > 
> > lurk>>>
> 
> 
> Nah, keep skipping them dude. 
> You don't have nothing to say anyway, 'cept snarcy one-liners.

Maybe a little bit of drivel is better that a stream of vomit.  Luv ya 
OW.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A friend of mine who has been researching mall space for a potential
> business tells me that the average lease on about 2,000 square feet 
in a
> mall is about $250K per year. Plus they take a cut of your sales 
proceeds.
> So $250K would mean 100 initiations, or about 9 a month - 2 a week. 
Of
> course there are other sources of income - products, AV treatments, 
etc. But
> also other expenses - publicity, staff etc. I'm sure they've 
discussed all
> this at length, but success is predicated on some pretty wishful 
thinking
> (or optimistic, if you prefer).
> 

**

This would have to be an extremely high-end mall, I believe, if 2000 
sq.feet ran $250K/yr. According to the following link, mid-level mall 
space runs ~$40/sq.ft. on an annualized basis, so 2000sf plus a 
percentage of sales would be ~$100,000, still a lot more than the TM 
mall store is likely to take in most locations, but not anywhere near 
$250K/year:

http://www.icsc.org/srch/sct/sct1103/

There is such a high-end mall in Vegas -- I had to laugh when a 
doorman at Saks held the door open for my shabbily-dressed ass (I'm 
sure that doing that is the worst part of the job for the poor guy) --
 anybody who wants to know the price per square to lease can call the 
guy at this link:

http://www.thefashionshow.com/BottomNav/bizopp/Leasing/







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Llundrub





Dude, I was so on the program that 
I had my name on a plaque in the GD. One of six people accorded that fair to low 
honor. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  off_world_beings 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:01 
PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in 
  Malls
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
  wrote:> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>> 
  wrote:> > Offish, I wish I knew your identity. But tell me, did you 
  go> > to MIU during 83-87 at all?  > > I'm not 
  off_world, but I was at MIU in '83-84, and I don't remember> you unless 
  you were the guy in the room below me in the basement of> Howard dorm 
  with a really loud stereo (Polk loudspeakers, IIRC.)> > 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Llundrub





I think the snarcy gives you away 
BS.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  off_world_beings 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:58 
PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in 
  Malls
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> --- In 
  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> > 
  snip> > My girlfriend at the time ponied up the cash for my TM. 
  And I sold a > > bunch of my art that paid for my Siddis exactly 
  the right amount. > > Apart from that I was pretty broke most of 
  those years. Other than > > that there is NO WAY I would have 
  paid these prices. In those > days, > > before I learned TM I 
  was seriously ready to go to India and > become a > > 
  recluse/yoga student in the Himalayas. I think I would have done > it 
  if > > it were not for TM and the Siddhis. > > I wonder 
  how many other people on FFL had those kind of intentions > > 
  before hearing about TM? Probably a lot of the people here would > have 
  > > spent a few years there, maybe lived or died in the process. 
  Maybe > got > > enlightened, maybe got lost, maybe got 
  crazy, maybe came back and > > became a Republican (god 
  forbid).> > Whoa.  A kinda normal post from OW.  No 
  one being blasted, no > insults. I may stop skipping OW's entries. 
  > > lurk>>>Nah, keep skipping them dude. 
  You don't have nothing to say anyway, 'cept snarcy one-liners. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Llundrub





Nah, I lived in 131a rm something 
or other, a room with the distinction of being the closest one to the GD on the 
campus, and then I lived in Howard for a short time. Then I lived in the Frats 
with THP then finally I forget where.  Actually, I forget where I lived the 
first year. I gave up listening to music the first three years but the last year 
I went directly into Metallica and stuff. Actually I had a broad appreciation of 
various music.  Hey, I was the white guy with the cute black girlfriend. We 
used too fight like cats and pitbulls. Our picure is in the 83 or 84 yearbook 
together. I was waxing nostalgic the other day. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Alex Stanley 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:21 
PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in 
  Malls
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>wrote:> Offish, I 
  wish I knew your identity. But tell me, did you go> to MIU during 83-87 
  at all?  I'm not off_world, but I was at MIU in '83-84, and I 
  don't rememberyou unless you were the guy in the room below me in the 
  basement ofHoward dorm with a really loud stereo (Polk loudspeakers, 
  IIRC.)AlexTo subscribe, send a 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Offish, I wish I knew your identity. But tell me, did you go
> > to MIU during 83-87 at all?  
> 
> I'm not off_world, but I was at MIU in '83-84, and I don't remember
> you unless you were the guy in the room below me in the basement of
> Howard dorm with a really loud stereo (Polk loudspeakers, IIRC.)
> 
> Alex>>>

Could you smell the aroma of the weed coming up from his room?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in MallsThere's no chance in hell they'll 
allow abhiyanga treatments, or shirodara, or bastis or any of that 
shit. >>>

Ha ha, nice pun.

<<>>

Yep, have to agree with you there.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> snip
> 
> My girlfriend at the time ponied up the cash for my TM. And I sold 
a 
> > bunch of my art that paid for my Siddis exactly the right 
amount. 
> > Apart from that I was pretty broke most of those years. Other 
than 
> > that there is NO WAY I would have paid these prices. In those 
> days, 
> > before I learned TM I was seriously ready to go to India and 
> become a 
> > recluse/yoga student in the Himalayas. I think I would have done 
> it if 
> > it were not for TM and the Siddhis. 
> > I wonder how many other people on FFL had those kind of 
intentions 
> > before hearing about TM? Probably a lot of the people here would 
> have 
> > spent a few years there, maybe lived or died in the process. 
Maybe 
> got 
> > enlightened, maybe got lost, maybe got crazy, maybe came back 
and 
> > became a Republican (god forbid).
> 
> Whoa.  A kinda normal post from OW.  No one being blasted, no 
> insults. I may stop skipping OW's entries. 
> 
> lurk>>>


Nah, keep skipping them dude. 
You don't have nothing to say anyway, 'cept snarcy one-liners. 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread George DeForest
.

>> Llundrub wrote:
>> tell me, did you go to MIU during 83-87 at all?  
>
> Alex Stanley wrote:
> I was at MIU in '83-84, and I don't remember you...

hmm...

during those years i lived in Utopia Park,
and took all my meals in Annapurna...
so i must have at least seen both of you!

in fact, i did meet petra one day at
406 W Depot (i worked at SCI under
now-raja Konhaus of California).

Petra took me for a ride in her porche...
it was so cool!

g.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread rick


Sure, 'cause that one got clobbered by the Coral Ridge mall. Try getting into the latter.
 -Original Message-From: Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:35:04 -0000Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another thing my friend said about malls is that they are very
> fussy about who they¹ll lease space to. They want each 
> establishment to contribute to the overall attractiveness
> of the mall, so that all reinforce one another and attract
> more people.

Yesterday, I walked through the Old Capitol Center mall in downtown
Iowa City, and you could have sprayed the top floor with machine gun
fire and not hit a single person. I bet they'd let you open a brothel
up there as long as it paid rent.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another thing my friend said about malls is that they are very
> fussy about who they¹ll lease space to. They want each 
> establishment to contribute to the overall attractiveness
> of the mall, so that all reinforce one another and attract
> more people.

Yesterday, I walked through the Old Capitol Center mall in downtown
Iowa City, and you could have sprayed the top floor with machine gun
fire and not hit a single person. I bet they'd let you open a brothel
up there as long as it paid rent.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Offish, I wish I knew your identity. But tell me, did you go
> to MIU during 83-87 at all?  

I'm not off_world, but I was at MIU in '83-84, and I don't remember
you unless you were the guy in the room below me in the basement of
Howard dorm with a really loud stereo (Polk loudspeakers, IIRC.)

Alex






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Llundrub
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls





oh yeah, dethreaded.  
gotcha.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Llundrub 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:00 
AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in 
  Malls
  
  There's no chance in hell they'll 
  allow abhiyanga treatments, or shirodara, or bastis or any of that shit. It 
  ain't gonna happen. Ever. This is the most farfetched scheme of the movement 
  yet, much grander than mile high buildings and raam mudra and starting organic 
  farms around the world, and all the rest of that melarky.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Rick 
Archer 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:11 
AM
    Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in 
Malls
Another thing my friend said about malls is that 
they are very fussy about who they’ll lease space to. They want each 
establishment to contribute to the overall attractiveness of the mall, so 
that all reinforce one another and attract more people. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Llundrub
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls





There's no chance in hell they'll 
allow abhiyanga treatments, or shirodara, or bastis or any of that shit. It 
ain't gonna happen. Ever. This is the most farfetched scheme of the movement 
yet, much grander than mile high buildings and raam mudra and starting organic 
farms around the world, and all the rest of that melarky.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rick 
  Archer 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:11 
AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in 
  Malls
  Another thing my friend said about malls is that they 
  are very fussy about who they’ll lease space to. They want each establishment 
  to contribute to the overall attractiveness of the mall, so that all reinforce 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls





Another thing my friend said about malls is that they are very fussy about who they’ll lease space to. They want each establishment to contribute to the overall attractiveness of the mall, so that all reinforce one another and attract more people.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

snip

My girlfriend at the time ponied up the cash for my TM. And I sold a 
> bunch of my art that paid for my Siddis exactly the right amount. 
> Apart from that I was pretty broke most of those years. Other than 
> that there is NO WAY I would have paid these prices. In those 
days, 
> before I learned TM I was seriously ready to go to India and 
become a 
> recluse/yoga student in the Himalayas. I think I would have done 
it if 
> it were not for TM and the Siddhis. 
> I wonder how many other people on FFL had those kind of intentions 
> before hearing about TM? Probably a lot of the people here would 
have 
> spent a few years there, maybe lived or died in the process. Maybe 
got 
> enlightened, maybe got lost, maybe got crazy, maybe came back and 
> became a Republican (god forbid).

Whoa.  A kinda normal post from OW.  No one being blasted, no 
insults. I may stop skipping OW's entries. 

lurk




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Llundrub





Thanks for the straight 
answer.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  off_world_beings 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:22 
AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in 
  Malls
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
  wrote:> Offish, I wish I knew your identity. But tell me, did you go to 
  MIU during 83-87 at all?  You don't have to extrapolate since you're 
  obviously 
  shy>>>Nope.:-)To subscribe, 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Llundrub





Good.  I feel better 
now.

  - Original Message - 
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  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:22 
AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in 
  Malls
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
  wrote:> Offish, I wish I knew your identity. But tell me, did you go to 
  MIU during 83-87 at all?  You don't have to extrapolate since you're 
  obviously 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Offish, I wish I knew your identity. But tell me, did you go to MIU 
during 83-87 at all?  You don't have to extrapolate since you're 
obviously shy>>>

Nope.
:-)




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-05 Thread Llundrub





Offish, I wish I knew your 
identity. But tell me, did you go to MIU during 83-87 at all?  You don't 
have to extrapolate since you're obviously shy.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  off_world_beings 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 12:40 
  AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM in 
  Malls
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "vashtirama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> 
  If MMY had come out with this plan in the early '70's I wonder if I > 
  would have thought it was charmingly idealistic and inspiring, like > 
  when I first heard about the Golden Domes of Pure Knowledge to be > 
  built in the middle of Iowa. Or that everyone could develop magical > 
  powers (siddhis).> I'd like to think that as gullible and and 
  idealistic as I was then, > that if he came out with an outrageous 
  initiation price I would have > been disillusioned and disgusted even 
  then.>>>My girlfriend at the time ponied up the cash for my 
  TM. And I sold a bunch of my art that paid for my Siddis exactly the right 
  amount. Apart from that I was pretty broke most of those years. Other than 
  that there is NO WAY I would have paid these prices. In those days, 
  before I learned TM I was seriously ready to go to India and become a 
  recluse/yoga student in the Himalayas. I think I would have done it if 
  it were not for TM and the Siddhis. I wonder how many other people on 
  FFL had those kind of intentions before hearing about TM? Probably a lot 
  of the people here would have spent a few years there, maybe lived or died 
  in the process. Maybe got enlightened, maybe got lost, maybe got crazy, 
  maybe came back and became a Republican (god 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-04 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vashtirama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If MMY had come out with this plan in the early '70's I wonder if I 
> would have thought it was charmingly idealistic and inspiring, like 
> when I first heard about the Golden Domes of Pure Knowledge to be 
> built in the middle of Iowa. Or that everyone could develop magical 
> powers (siddhis).
> I'd like to think that as gullible and and idealistic as I was then, 
> that if he came out with an outrageous initiation price I would have 
> been disillusioned and disgusted even then.>>>

My girlfriend at the time ponied up the cash for my TM. And I sold a 
bunch of my art that paid for my Siddis exactly the right amount. 
Apart from that I was pretty broke most of those years. Other than 
that there is NO WAY I would have paid these prices. In those days, 
before I learned TM I was seriously ready to go to India and become a 
recluse/yoga student in the Himalayas. I think I would have done it if 
it were not for TM and the Siddhis. 
I wonder how many other people on FFL had those kind of intentions 
before hearing about TM? Probably a lot of the people here would have 
spent a few years there, maybe lived or died in the process. Maybe got 
enlightened, maybe got lost, maybe got crazy, maybe came back and 
became a Republican (god forbid).




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-04 Thread vashtirama
If MMY had come out with this plan in the early '70's I wonder if I 
would have thought it was charmingly idealistic and inspiring, like 
when I first heard about the Golden Domes of Pure Knowledge to be 
built in the middle of Iowa. Or that everyone could develop magical 
powers (siddhis).
I'd like to think that as gullible and and idealistic as I was then, 
that if he came out with an outrageous initiation price I would have 
been disillusioned and disgusted even then.
vashti

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has there been discussion about this already that the thrust of the 
> rectification course is that the TMO will open in malls across 
America 
> and target older teens who spend money on electronics and are 
troubled 
> and "need TM" and they will do everything from sell products to 
giving 
> Abyanga in the mall? I cant wait to see the first one. Does the TMO 
> have an idea what rent is in any mall? This will have to been seen 
to 
> be believed for sure. I think MMY has really lost it and is getting 
> old. I hear there is also some new millionaire involved who is 
footing 
> part of the bill. It is really sad as it is just another failed 
> project where the TMO will lose yet another layer of followers. How 
> many are left that really cared enough about teaching to go to the 
> course besides the 100 MUM faculty and staff that was strongly 
urged 
> to go something like 200 pretty poor turn out but the TMO acts like 
> this is a success. I live in Fairfield and I dont hear a peep about 
> any of this on the street. No one seems to care. I hear more from 
my 
> out of town friends who are already disgusted.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in Malls

2005-05-04 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Has there been discussion about this already that the thrust of 
the 
> rectification course is that the TMO will open in malls across 
America 
> and target older teens who spend money on electronics and are 
troubled 
> and "need TM" and they will do everything from sell products to 
giving 
> Abyanga in the mall? I cant wait to see the first one. Does the 
TMO 
> have an idea what rent is in any mall? This will have to been seen 
to 
> be believed for sure. I think MMY has really lost it and is 


that's what people said on Galileo galiley

>getting old.

actually getting younger and more daring.

> I hear there is also some new millionaire involved who is footing 
> part of the bill. It is really sad as it is just another failed 
> project where the TMO will lose yet another layer of followers. 
How 
> many are left that really cared enough about teaching to go to the 
> course besides the 100 MUM faculty and staff that was strongly 
urged 
> to go something like 200 pretty poor turn out but the TMO acts 
like 
> this is a success. I live in Fairfield and I dont hear a peep 
about 
> any of this on the street. No one seems to care. I hear more from 
my 
> out of town friends who are already disgusted.







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