[FairfieldLife] Re: The Names of theTranscendent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Rick started on the batgap homepage this description referencing the cross-cultural experience of the spiritual transcendent. Craig Pearson enumerates this too in some of his writing: This same field is described everywhere in the world's great philosophical and religious traditions. Plato refers to it as the Good and the Beautiful. Aristotle calls it Being. For Plotinus it is the Infinite, for St. Bernard of Clairvaux the Word, for Ralph Waldo Emerson the Oversoul. It is referred to in Christiantity as the kingdom of Heaven within, in Judaism as Ein Sof. The direct experience of this transcendental field is referred to in India as Yoga, in Buddhism as Nirvana, in Islam as fana, in Christianity as spiritual marriage. It is a universal teaching based on a universal reality and a universal experience. http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/laozi-and-the-tao-te-ching-the-ancient-wisdom-of-china/ Evidently is 'repeatable' in experience. Seems scientific as it appears universal across culture and time. You mean like belief in witchcraft and the lower status of women from men? Both are super popular on this planet. Or perhaps the now trans cultural popularity of Mcdonald's should grant it status as a universally healthy diet? It is OK to just believe things because you want to. Just keep the misleading term scientific out of it. There is nothing scientific about collaging together a bunch of poorly defined terms as a poetic exercise. If you really believed in the methods of science as a way to increase the reliability of knowledge you wouldn't be slap dashing the term where it doesn't belong. Like in the humanities where all these vague terms in the world salad paragraph come from. Using the terms of science to market ideas in the humanities is an obvious con. No one is being fooled. Scientific knowledge isn't the only knowledge worthy of asserting. But misapplying it isn't going to help your argument of the value of these ideas. And if you do misapply science and look down under your butt and don't see a deerskin on a silk couch, don't be surprised if someone points their finger and says bullshit. You don't have the insulated environment Maharishi had to get away with this. Rick writing on batgap: People everywhere are undergoing a shift to an Awakened state of consciousness which is transforming their understanding of themselves and the world. For some, this shift has been abrupt and dramatic. For others, it has been so gradual that they may not have realized it has occurred. Such shifts, or awakenings, are not new: Christ spoke of the Kingdom of Heaven within, Buddhists speak of Nirvana, Zen masters of Satori, Hindus of Moksha, but these traditions generally regard these states as rare and difficult to attain. Many people are therefore skeptical of claims of higher states of consciousness. They find it hard to believe that apparently ordinary friends and neighbors might be experiencing something extraordinary. Maybe they expect Enlightenment to look as remarkable on the outside as it is reputed to be on the inside. About, This show will attempt to dispel skepticism and misconceptions by week after week, allowing otherwise ordinary people to relate their experience of spiritual awakening. The terminology is tricky, because there are no universally agreed upon definitions to describe this experience. Also, enlightenment is not something that an individual person gets. It's not even something that the mind can grasp. It's an awakening to that which contains the mind and all other things. So it's not surprising that language is inadequate to convey it. http://batgap.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Names of theTranscendent
Once he gets past Aristotle his statement of equivalence between traditions is just new age amateurism. He plainly doesn't know much of anything about the traditions he is comparing. In terms of the philosophy of religion this is just a waste of time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Rick started on the batgap homepage this description referencing the cross-cultural experience of the spiritual transcendent. Craig Pearson enumerates this too in some of his writing: This same field is described everywhere in the world's great philosophical and religious traditions. Plato refers to it as the Good and the Beautiful. Aristotle calls it Being. For Plotinus it is the Infinite, for St. Bernard of Clairvaux the Word, for Ralph Waldo Emerson the Oversoul. It is referred to in Christiantity as the kingdom of Heaven within, in Judaism as Ein Sof. The direct experience of this transcendental field is referred to in India as Yoga, in Buddhism as Nirvana, in Islam as fana, in Christianity as spiritual marriage. It is a universal teaching based on a universal reality and a universal experience.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Names of theTranscendent
Ssssettt...wary sswweeet! I've heard that the Eskimos have numerous names for Snow. The Christian references could easily have dualistic meanings, not necessarily the sole Gnostic interpretation. But first one should (imo) lay the groundwork for such a discussion by stating the objective. Are there benefits to experiencing or realizing the Spiritual Transcendent? ... If so, what are the benefits? What are the effective techniques of realizing the goal? How long does it take? Why should people experience the Transcendent?...as opposed to (say), spending time getting involved with the Tea Party Movement? Does the Transcendent make people Happy? Does it make them self-actualized? How about rich? Improve one's health?...cure diseases? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: Rick started on the batgap homepage this description referencing the cross-cultural experience of the spiritual transcendent. Craig Pearson enumerates this too in some of his writing: This same field is described everywhere in the world's great philosophical and religious traditions. Plato refers to it as the Good and the Beautiful. Aristotle calls it Being. For Plotinus it is the Infinite, for St. Bernard of Clairvaux the Word, for Ralph Waldo Emerson the Oversoul. It is referred to in Christiantity as the kingdom of Heaven within, in Judaism as Ein Sof. The direct experience of this transcendental field is referred to in India as Yoga, in Buddhism as Nirvana, in Islam as fana, in Christianity as spiritual marriage. It is a universal teaching based on a universal reality and a universal experience. http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/laozi-and-the-tao-te-ching-the-ancient-wisdom-of-china/ Evidently is 'repeatable' in experience. Seems scientific as it appears universal across culture and time. Rick writing on batgap: People everywhere are undergoing a shift to an Awakened state of consciousness which is transforming their understanding of themselves and the world. For some, this shift has been abrupt and dramatic. For others, it has been so gradual that they may not have realized it has occurred. Such shifts, or awakenings, are not new: Christ spoke of the Kingdom of Heaven within, Buddhists speak of Nirvana, Zen masters of Satori, Hindus of Moksha, but these traditions generally regard these states as rare and difficult to attain. Many people are therefore skeptical of claims of higher states of consciousness. They find it hard to believe that apparently ordinary friends and neighbors might be experiencing something extraordinary. Maybe they expect Enlightenment to look as remarkable on the outside as it is reputed to be on the inside. About, This show will attempt to dispel skepticism and misconceptions by week after week, allowing otherwise ordinary people to relate their experience of spiritual awakening. The terminology is tricky, because there are no universally agreed upon definitions to describe this experience. Also, enlightenment is not something that an individual person gets. It's not even something that the mind can grasp. It's an awakening to that which contains the mind and all other things. So it's not surprising that language is inadequate to convey it. http://batgap.com/
