[FairfieldLife] Re: The TV / Anger / Hurt Somebody /TV /Anger / Hurt Somebody Cycle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 9/3/05 10:28 AM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Shep Smith, who usually > > does blow-dried fluff on Fox, has also been doing > > a fantastic job. > > Again, to someone not used to the protocols of disaster, it might > appear he is actually exposing some corrupt activity or knows what > he's talking about. Well, you know, I haven't seen him doing anything that I'd even remotely classify as "exposing some corrupt activity." What I've seen him do is report on what he's seeing in front of his nose, and showing it to the audience on camera. I guess he does know what he's talking about, because what he says and what we see match up quite nicely. > My wife and some other Red Cross people who are watching FOX just > shake there heads--this guy has no clue. Perhaps you've seen some special segments I've missed in which he was "exposing some corrupt activity." > Hey, it boosts ratings guess I think you may have missed what I pointed out about Fox's coverage on this leaning in quite a different direction from their usual, and from the usual predilections of their audience. If I were a knee-jerk right-winger, I think I'd be outraged that they were daring to show stuff that didn't automatically put the government in the best of all possible lights. >, but it's > sad that many, like yourself, will actually accept what he 'pines as > "truth". When he 'pines about people suffering--which is about all I've seen him do these last few days-- and we *see* them suffering, yes, I'll accept that what he says is the truth. Of course, it's not just him by any means; he's just particularly forceful in his delivery. The same things are being shown and the same observations being made everywhere I've looked on the tube, in all the newspapers, on the blogs, including the blogs containing posts from individuals who've been trapped there in New Orleans about what they're experiencing. But I guess, as far as you're concerned, it's all a huge conspiracy to make what's happening seem far worse than it really is, right? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TV / Anger / Hurt Somebody /TV /Anger / Hurt Somebody Cycle
On 9/3/05 10:28 AM, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shep Smith, who usually > does blow-dried fluff on Fox, has also been doing > a fantastic job. Again, to someone not used to the protocols of disaster, it might appear he is actually exposing some corrupt activity or knows what he's talking about. My wife and some other Red Cross people who are watching FOX just shake there heads--this guy has no clue. Hey, it boosts ratings guess, but it's sad that many, like yourself, will actually accept what he 'pines as "truth". Move away from the TV and take your batteries out of the remote. Unplug it carefully. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TV / Anger / Hurt Somebody /TV /Anger / Hurt Somebody Cycle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I saw Geraldo Rivera, last night on Fox, have a > > > complete emotional > > > breakdown, holding a baby, and crying for help. > > Give me a break. This goofball will do anything for effect. I'm > not saying it didn't work himself into a little frenzy, but he is > all about ratings. I've seen them leave the camera on for an extra > second or two, after his report. He changes completely. I didn't see the segment, but I wouldn't put it past him. He's a grandstander from away back. However, apparently he then ripped Sean Hannity a new one when Hannity tried to defend the federal response. To be a real activist journalist almost requires some grandstanding. You wish the motivation to do good were 100 percent pure, but it's more important that the good be done. The normally Bush-boot-licking, right-wing Fox News Channel has been doing some of the very best reporting on cable (or on TV in general, for that matter) in this disaster. Shep Smith, who usually does blow-dried fluff on Fox, has also been doing a fantastic job. Given Fox's rightward bias and their largely right-wing audience, it's tough to make a case that they're exaggerating the federal failure here just for the ratings. The folks back at the anchor desk do try to make the reports from the field seem not quite so dire, but the reporters on the ground just aren't going along with it, to their great credit; and apparently the Fox brass aren't insisting they tone it down, to their credit as well. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TV / Anger / Hurt Somebody /TV /Anger / Hurt Somebody Cycle
I saw Geraldo Rivera, last night on Fox, have a > > complete emotional > > breakdown, holding a baby, and crying for help. Give me a break. This goofball will do anything for effect. I'm not saying it didn't work himself into a little frenzy, but he is all about ratings. I've seen them leave the camera on for an extra second or two, after his report. He changes completely. lurk > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TV / Anger / Hurt Somebody /TV /Anger / Hurt Somebody Cycle
People, in general, have a lot of pent-up rage and grief. If you've ever worked with actors or are one yourself, you'll notice that the easiest emotion to access are rage and grief. Events are triggers that open these floodgates of hysteria. I'm sure Geraldo was quite surprised by his reaction. --- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a certain energy, that feeds on itself, in > these situations; > You can see, in the reporters, who are on the scene > in New Orleans, > especially, that they pick up on the anger, rage, > death, > frustration, dispair, and so on. > I saw Geraldo Rivera, last night on Fox, have a > complete emotional > breakdown, holding a baby, and crying for help. > It becomes addicting, like an adrenaline rush, to > watch, and comment > on an event of this magnatude; > But at some point, it is always good to find balance > and peace again; > And take a walk, as has been suggested here; > And use some time, to absorb the event and all of > the emotions of > what happened; > And use the energy in a positive way, by feeling how > it has changed > you. > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Right, Shemp. This is why forbidding Barry > > and me from responding to each other (as somebody > > proposed awhile back) wouldn't work. Barry > > wouldn't honor the ban, his protestations to the > > contrary notwithstanding. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > I watched it happen during the period > immediately > > > > after 9/11, and I've been watching it the last > > > > few days, on this group and on many other > forums. > > > > There's a certain kind of person who really > gets > > > > *into* the disaster thing, feeds on it, and > can't > > > > tear him- or herself > > > > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > > > > away from the television. > > > > They watch all the news, compulsively. > > > > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > And the > > > > anger and the frustration that they feel as > they > > > > watch just builds and builds and builds in > them > > > > until they feel that they have to DO > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what do they DO? Do they turn off the > fuckin' > > > > TV and get outside and get some air and thank > > > > the lords of karma that it isn't them who is > > > > going through all of this? No. Do they sit > down > > > > and meditate and try to connect back with the > > > > part of themselves that isn't so angry and > frus- > > > > trated and wanting to lash out? No. > > > > > > > > What they do is log onto the Internet and lash > > > > out at anyone they possibly can. > > > > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone and > > > > anything is fair game. Arguments start over > the > > > > smallest, silliest shit, and turn nasty really > > > > quickly. These people don't care who they're > > > > arguing with or about what. > > > > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > They don't care who > > > > they're insulting or putting down, they don't > > > > care who they hurt. > > > > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole *point* is to hurt > > > > someone, *anyone*, to try to make someone else > > > > > feel as bad as they do. > > > > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The people who do this can't be dealt with, > and > > > > they can't be reasoned with. They're too far > gone. > > > > You can't be compassionate and try to gently > > > > remind them that they should turn off the > fuckin' > > > > TV and get off their fat asses and go get some > air > > > > or meditate or do whatever they should do to > get > > > > human again. They'll only turn on you and try > again > > > > to make you feel as bad as they do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's like > > > > trying to deal with a junkie. > > > > > > > > It's not just here. It's everywhere on the > Net. > > > > It's on every forum. And more and more, on > more > > > > and more forums, people who remember what > happened > > > > after 9/11 are posting stuff like this and > trying > > > > to remind the still sane members of the forum > that > > > > when you encounter people who are this far > gone > > > > into the TV/Anger/Hurt cycle the only thing > you > > > > can do is not interact with them at all. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TV / Anger / Hurt Somebody /TV /Anger / Hurt Somebody Cycle
There is a certain energy, that feeds on itself, in these situations; You can see, in the reporters, who are on the scene in New Orleans, especially, that they pick up on the anger, rage, death, frustration, dispair, and so on. I saw Geraldo Rivera, last night on Fox, have a complete emotional breakdown, holding a baby, and crying for help. It becomes addicting, like an adrenaline rush, to watch, and comment on an event of this magnatude; But at some point, it is always good to find balance and peace again; And take a walk, as has been suggested here; And use some time, to absorb the event and all of the emotions of what happened; And use the energy in a positive way, by feeling how it has changed you. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right, Shemp. This is why forbidding Barry > and me from responding to each other (as somebody > proposed awhile back) wouldn't work. Barry > wouldn't honor the ban, his protestations to the > contrary notwithstanding. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I watched it happen during the period immediately > > > after 9/11, and I've been watching it the last > > > few days, on this group and on many other forums. > > > There's a certain kind of person who really gets > > > *into* the disaster thing, feeds on it, and can't > > > tear him- or herself > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > away from the television. > > > They watch all the news, compulsively. > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > And the > > > anger and the frustration that they feel as they > > > watch just builds and builds and builds in them > > > until they feel that they have to DO something. > > > > > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what do they DO? Do they turn off the fuckin' > > > TV and get outside and get some air and thank > > > the lords of karma that it isn't them who is > > > going through all of this? No. Do they sit down > > > and meditate and try to connect back with the > > > part of themselves that isn't so angry and frus- > > > trated and wanting to lash out? No. > > > > > > What they do is log onto the Internet and lash > > > out at anyone they possibly can. > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone and > > > anything is fair game. Arguments start over the > > > smallest, silliest shit, and turn nasty really > > > quickly. These people don't care who they're > > > arguing with or about what. > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > They don't care who > > > they're insulting or putting down, they don't > > > care who they hurt. > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > The whole *point* is to hurt > > > someone, *anyone*, to try to make someone else > > > feel as bad as they do. > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > The people who do this can't be dealt with, and > > > they can't be reasoned with. They're too far gone. > > > You can't be compassionate and try to gently > > > remind them that they should turn off the fuckin' > > > TV and get off their fat asses and go get some air > > > or meditate or do whatever they should do to get > > > human again. They'll only turn on you and try again > > > to make you feel as bad as they do. > > > > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's like > > > trying to deal with a junkie. > > > > > > It's not just here. It's everywhere on the Net. > > > It's on every forum. And more and more, on more > > > and more forums, people who remember what happened > > > after 9/11 are posting stuff like this and trying > > > to remind the still sane members of the forum that > > > when you encounter people who are this far gone > > > into the TV/Anger/Hurt cycle the only thing you > > > can do is not interact with them at all. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TV / Anger / Hurt Somebody /TV /Anger / Hurt Somebody Cycle
Right, Shemp. This is why forbidding Barry and me from responding to each other (as somebody proposed awhile back) wouldn't work. Barry wouldn't honor the ban, his protestations to the contrary notwithstanding. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I watched it happen during the period immediately > > after 9/11, and I've been watching it the last > > few days, on this group and on many other forums. > > There's a certain kind of person who really gets > > *into* the disaster thing, feeds on it, and can't > > tear him- or herself > > > Read = Judy > > > > > away from the television. > > They watch all the news, compulsively. > > > Read = Judy > > > > And the > > anger and the frustration that they feel as they > > watch just builds and builds and builds in them > > until they feel that they have to DO something. > > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > > So what do they DO? Do they turn off the fuckin' > > TV and get outside and get some air and thank > > the lords of karma that it isn't them who is > > going through all of this? No. Do they sit down > > and meditate and try to connect back with the > > part of themselves that isn't so angry and frus- > > trated and wanting to lash out? No. > > > > What they do is log onto the Internet and lash > > out at anyone they possibly can. > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > Anyone and > > anything is fair game. Arguments start over the > > smallest, silliest shit, and turn nasty really > > quickly. These people don't care who they're > > arguing with or about what. > > > Read = Judy > > > > They don't care who > > they're insulting or putting down, they don't > > care who they hurt. > > > Read = Judy > > > > > The whole *point* is to hurt > > someone, *anyone*, to try to make someone else > > feel as bad as they do. > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > The people who do this can't be dealt with, and > > they can't be reasoned with. They're too far gone. > > You can't be compassionate and try to gently > > remind them that they should turn off the fuckin' > > TV and get off their fat asses and go get some air > > or meditate or do whatever they should do to get > > human again. They'll only turn on you and try again > > to make you feel as bad as they do. > > > > Read = Judy > > > > > > > It's like > > trying to deal with a junkie. > > > > It's not just here. It's everywhere on the Net. > > It's on every forum. And more and more, on more > > and more forums, people who remember what happened > > after 9/11 are posting stuff like this and trying > > to remind the still sane members of the forum that > > when you encounter people who are this far gone > > into the TV/Anger/Hurt cycle the only thing you > > can do is not interact with them at all. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TV / Anger / Hurt Somebody /TV /Anger / Hurt Somebody Cycle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I watched it happen during the period immediately > after 9/11, and I've been watching it the last > few days, on this group and on many other forums. > There's a certain kind of person who really gets > *into* the disaster thing, feeds on it, and can't > tear him- or herself Read = Judy > away from the television. > They watch all the news, compulsively. Read = Judy > And the > anger and the frustration that they feel as they > watch just builds and builds and builds in them > until they feel that they have to DO something. Read = Judy > > So what do they DO? Do they turn off the fuckin' > TV and get outside and get some air and thank > the lords of karma that it isn't them who is > going through all of this? No. Do they sit down > and meditate and try to connect back with the > part of themselves that isn't so angry and frus- > trated and wanting to lash out? No. > > What they do is log onto the Internet and lash > out at anyone they possibly can. Read = Judy > Anyone and > anything is fair game. Arguments start over the > smallest, silliest shit, and turn nasty really > quickly. These people don't care who they're > arguing with or about what. Read = Judy > They don't care who > they're insulting or putting down, they don't > care who they hurt. Read = Judy > The whole *point* is to hurt > someone, *anyone*, to try to make someone else > feel as bad as they do. Read = Judy > > The people who do this can't be dealt with, and > they can't be reasoned with. They're too far gone. > You can't be compassionate and try to gently > remind them that they should turn off the fuckin' > TV and get off their fat asses and go get some air > or meditate or do whatever they should do to get > human again. They'll only turn on you and try again > to make you feel as bad as they do. Read = Judy > It's like > trying to deal with a junkie. > > It's not just here. It's everywhere on the Net. > It's on every forum. And more and more, on more > and more forums, people who remember what happened > after 9/11 are posting stuff like this and trying > to remind the still sane members of the forum that > when you encounter people who are this far gone > into the TV/Anger/Hurt cycle the only thing you > can do is not interact with them at all. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TV / Anger / Hurt Somebody /TV /Anger / Hurt Somebody Cycle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I watched it happen during the period immediately > after 9/11, and I've been watching it the last > few days, on this group and on many other forums. > There's a certain kind of person who really gets > *into* the disaster thing, feeds on it, and can't > tear him- or herself away from the television. > They watch all the news, compulsively. And the > anger and the frustration that they feel as they > watch just builds and builds and builds in them > until they feel that they have to DO something. > > So what do they DO? Do they turn off the fuckin' > TV and get outside and get some air and thank > the lords of karma that it isn't them who is > going through all of this? No. Do they sit down > and meditate and try to connect back with the > part of themselves that isn't so angry and frus- > trated and wanting to lash out? No. Well, actually most of them probably do. These are not mutually exclusive activities, you see, much as you would like to portray the situation in black and white. And some of them probably do other things as well, like donating money and seeing if there are volunteer opportunities in their areas that might contribute to the relief effort. > What they do is log onto the Internet and lash > out at anyone they possibly can. Actually what some of them do is attempt to alert people who don't yet know what's going on. And amazingly enough, they may get attacked for doing so by people who just don't want to have to disturb their beautiful minds by contemplating the misery of others. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
