[FairfieldLife] Re: The True Believer

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Excerpts from The True Believer, by Eric Hoffer, 1952
 and other of his works. I'm posting them because they may 
 be helpful in understanding why so many TM True Believers 
 are so threatened by the existence of Fairfield Life and
 its credo (What is wanted is not the will to believe, 
 but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite.) 
 Read through them and see if they don't remind you of
 a few people whose words you read here every week...

Barry is responding to this from me:

Anyone familiar with Hoffer's work knows that
his 'True Believer' label is *ludicrously*
inapplicable to most of those to whom Barry
attempts to apply it here.

Thanks to Barry for providing quotes from
Hoffer to document my assertion.





 
 
 
 
 The uncompromising attitude is more indicative of an 
 inner uncertainty than a deep conviction. The 
 implacable stand is directed more against the doubt 
 within than the assailant without.
 
 
 
 A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the 
 realities around them but also against their own selves. 
 The fanatical believer is not conscious of his envy, 
 malice, pettiness and dishonesty. There is a wall of 
 words between his consciousness and his real self.
 
 
 
 Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an 
 empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness 
 of their lives try to find a new content not only by 
 dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by 
 nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers 
 them unlimited opportunities for both.
 
 
 
 The effectiveness of a doctrine does not come from 
 its meaning but from its certitude. No doctrine 
 however profound and sublime will be effective unless 
 it is presented as the embodiment of the one and only 
 truth. It must be the one word from which all things 
 are and all things speak. Crude absurdities, trivial 
 nonsense and sublime truths are equally potent in 
 readying people for self-sacrifice if they are 
 accepted as the sole, eternal truth.
 
 It is obvious, therefore, that in order to be effective 
 a doctrine must not be understood, but has to be 
 believed in. We can be absolutely certain only about 
 things we do not understand. A doctrine that is 
 understood is shorn of its strength. Once we understand 
 a thing, it is as if it had originated in us. And, 
 clearly, those who are asked to renounce the self and 
 sacrifice it cannot see eternal certitude in anything 
 that originates in that self. The fact that they 
 understand a thing fully impairs its validity and 
 certitude in their eyes.
 
 The devout are always urged to seek the absolute truth 
 with their hearts and not their minds. It is the heart 
 which is conscious of God, not the reason. [--Pascal]   
 Rudolph Hess, when swearing in the entire Nazi party in 
 1934, exhorted his hearers: Do not seek Adolph Hitler 
 with your brains; all of you will find him with the 
 strength of your hearts.
 ...
 If a doctrine is not unintelligible, it has to be vague; 
 and if neither unintelligible nor vague, it has to be 
 unverifiable. One has to get to heaven or the distant 
 future to determine the truth of an effective doctrine. 
 When some part of a doctrine is relatively simple, 
 there is a tendency among the faithful to complicate 
 it and obscure it. Simple words are made pregnant with 
 meaning and made to look like symbols in a secret 
 message. There is thus an illiterate air about the 
 most literate true believer. He seems to use words as 
 if he were ignorant of their true meaning. Hence, 
 too, his taste for quibbling, hairsplitting, and 
 scholastic tortuousness.
 
 
 
 To know a person's religion we need not listen to his 
 profession of faith but must find his brand of intolerance.
 
 
 
 The savior who wants to turn men into angels is as much a 
 hater of human nature as the totalitarian despot who wants 
 to turn them into puppets.
 
 
 
 The less justified a man is in claiming excellence for 
 his own self, the more ready he is to claim all 
 excellence for his nation, his religion, his race, 
 or his holy cause.
 
 
 
 Take away hatred from some people, and you have men 
 without faith.
 
 
 
 The opposite of the religious fanatic is not the 
 fanatical atheist but the gentle cynic who cares not 
 whether there is a god or not.
 
 
 
 The uncompromising 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The True Believer

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Excerpts from The True Believer, by Eric Hoffer, 1952
  and other of his works. I'm posting them because they may 
  be helpful in understanding why so many TM True Believers 
  are so threatened by the existence of Fairfield Life and
  its credo (What is wanted is not the will to believe, 
  but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite.) 
  Read through them and see if they don't remind you of
  a few people whose words you read here every week...

P.S.: The TBs who are threatened by FFL and its
credo and who do not wish to find out are very
unlikely to be among the regular participants here.







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