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It's my guess that if that hunk of rock comes crashing down on Earth the Men's Dome will be right in its cross hairs - isn't comforting to know, Buck that you will be feeling Maharishi's Bliss going up your spine as you bounce across the Dome just as the asteroid slams into and flattens everything around you??? From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 7:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real armageddon It would be real nice to get the Dome numbers of people meditating up before this happens. **!The sky is Falling!** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. For a start, it's happened before - a good many times and with a great deal of mass extinction. Sure, every time a big one hits there's one less big one *to* hit but just in my life there have been several instances of previously unknown asteroids crossing between the Earth and Moon. In 1989 one that, had it been travelling one millionth of a mile an hour slower, would have hit in the middle of the atlantic and set off every volcano and earthquake faultline on earth, not to mention swamping Europe, Africa and the America's with the resulting tsunami. Hardly a rare occurrence then but something to loose sleep over? Not for me but just think, there were three in the last century that struck land, one in Siberia, one in Arabia and one in south America. No known casualties but there was massive destruction in each case. Millions of felled trees in Tunguska, a desert melted into glass in Arabia. I often wonder what would have happened at the height of the cold war if, say, New York or Moscow had been suddenly vapourised by an incoming comet. Would the powers that be been able to stop themselves retaliating against the mistaken foe? Most of these things are unknown before they flash by close enough to part our hair, cosmically speaking, without us being aware of their existence - except this one. Anyway, it's all just something to help keep life in perspective Apophis – a 'potentially hazardous' asteroid – flies by Earth on Wednesday Asteroid Apophis arrives this week for a close pass of Earth. This isn't the end of the world but a new beginning for research into potentially hazardous asteroids [A computer generated image of a near Earth asteroid] A computer-generated image of a near-Earth asteroid. Astronomers will get a close-up view of Apophis on Wednesday. Photograph: Planetary Resources/EPA Apophis hit the headlines in December 2004. Six months after its discovery, astronomers had accrued enough images to calculate a reasonable orbit for the 300-metre chunk of space rock. What they saw was shocking. There was a roughly 1 in 300 chance of the asteroid hitting Earth during April 2029. Nasa issued a press release spurring astronomers around the world to take more observations in order to refine the orbit. Far from dropping, however, the chances of an impact on (you've guessed it) Friday 13 April 2029 actually rose. By Christmas Day 2004, the chance of the 2029 impact was 1 in 45 and things were looking serious. Then, on 27 December astronomers had a stroke of luck. Looking back through previous images, they found one from March on which the asteroid had been captured but had gone unnoticed. This significantly improved the orbital calculation and the chances of the 2029 impact dropped to essentially zero. However, the small chance of an impact in 2036 opened up and remains open today . While there is no cause for alarm, similarly there is no room for complacency either. Apophis remains on the list of Potentially Hazardous Asteroids compiled by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center. Although most asteroids are found in the belt of space between Mars and Jupiter, not all of them reside there. Apophis belongs to a group known as theAten family . These do not belong to the asteroid belt and spend most of their time inside the orbit of the Earth, placing them between our planet and the sun. That makes them particularly dangerous because they spend the majority of their orbit close to the sun, whose overwhelming glare obscures them to telescopes on Earth – rather like a second world war fighter ace approaching out of the sun. Having crossed outside Earth's orbit, Apophis will appear briefly in the night-time sky. Wednesday 9 January will afford astronomers the rare opportunity to bring a battery of telescopes to bear: from optical telescopes to radio telescopes to the European Space Agency's Infrared Space Observatory Herschel. Two of the biggest unknowns that remain
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Current incomplete calculations put the hit zone just off of Santa Monica. Must be the wrath of the daimon ywvh at loosing his influence. Better tell the pope to cower before his altar and seek redress. I'll suggest Judy twitter him and tell him to get busy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: It's my guess that if that hunk of rock comes crashing down on Earth the Men's Dome will be right in its cross hairs - isn't comforting to know, Buck that you will be feeling Maharishi's Bliss going up your spine as you bounce across the Dome just as the asteroid slams into and flattens everything around you??? From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 7:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real armageddon  It would be real nice to get the Dome numbers of people meditating up before this happens. **!The sky is Falling!** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. For a start, it's happened before - a good many times and with a great deal of mass extinction. Sure, every time a big one hits there's one less big one *to* hit but just in my life there have been several instances of previously unknown asteroids crossing between the Earth and Moon. In 1989 one that, had it been travelling one millionth of a mile an hour slower, would have hit in the middle of the atlantic and set off every volcano and earthquake faultline on earth, not to mention swamping Europe, Africa and the America's with the resulting tsunami. Hardly a rare occurrence then but something to loose sleep over? Not for me but just think, there were three in the last century that struck land, one in Siberia, one in Arabia and one in south America. No known casualties but there was massive destruction in each case. Millions of felled trees in Tunguska, a desert melted into glass in Arabia. I often wonder what would have happened at the height of the cold war if, say, New York or Moscow had been suddenly vapourised by an incoming comet. Would the powers that be been able to stop themselves retaliating against the mistaken foe? Most of these things are unknown before they flash by close enough to part our hair, cosmically speaking, without us being aware of their existence - except this one. Anyway, it's all just something to help keep life in perspective Apophis â a 'potentially hazardous' asteroid â flies by Earth on Wednesday Asteroid Apophis arrives this week for a close pass of Earth. This isn't the end of the world but a new beginning for research into potentially hazardous asteroids [A computer generated image of a near Earth asteroid] A computer-generated image of a near-Earth asteroid. Astronomers will get a close-up view of Apophis on Wednesday. Photograph: Planetary Resources/EPA Apophis hit the headlines in December 2004. Six months after its discovery, astronomers had accrued enough images to calculate a reasonable orbit for the 300-metre chunk of space rock. What they saw was shocking. There was a roughly 1 in 300 chance of the asteroid hitting Earth during April 2029. Nasa issued a press release spurring astronomers around the world to take more observations in order to refine the orbit. Far from dropping, however, the chances of an impact on (you've guessed it) Friday 13 April 2029 actually rose. By Christmas Day 2004, the chance of the 2029 impact was 1 in 45 and things were looking serious. Then, on 27 December astronomers had a stroke of luck. Looking back through previous images, they found one from March on which the asteroid had been captured but had gone unnoticed. This significantly improved the orbital calculation and the chances of the 2029 impact dropped to essentially zero. However, the small chance of an impact in 2036 opened up and remains open today . While there is no cause for alarm, similarly there is no room for complacency either. Apophis remains on the list of Potentially Hazardous Asteroids compiled by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center. Although most asteroids are found in the belt of space between Mars and Jupiter, not all of them reside there. Apophis belongs to a group known as theAten family . These do not belong to the asteroid belt and spend most of their time inside the orbit of the Earth, placing them between our planet and the sun. That makes them particularly dangerous because they spend the majority of their orbit close to the sun, whose overwhelming glare obscures them to telescopes on Earth â rather like a second world war fighter ace approaching out
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**!The sky is Falling!** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. For a start, it's happened before - a good many times and with a great deal of mass extinction. Sure, every time a big one hits there's one less big one *to* hit but just in my life there have been several instances of previously unknown asteroids crossing between the Earth and Moon. In 1989 one that, had it been travelling one millionth of a mile an hour slower, would have hit in the middle of the atlantic and set off every volcano and earthquake faultline on earth, not to mention swamping Europe, Africa and the America's with the resulting tsunami. Hardly a rare occurrence then but something to loose sleep over? Not for me but just think, there were three in the last century that struck land, one in Siberia, one in Arabia and one in south America. No known casualties but there was massive destruction in each case. Millions of felled trees in Tunguska, a desert melted into glass in Arabia. I often wonder what would have happened at the height of the cold war if, say, New York or Moscow had been suddenly vapourised by an incoming comet. Would the powers that be been able to stop themselves retaliating against the mistaken foe? Most of these things are unknown before they flash by close enough to part our hair, cosmically speaking, without us being aware of their existence - except this one. Anyway, it's all just something to help keep life in perspective Apophis a 'potentially hazardous' asteroid flies by Earth on Wednesday Asteroid Apophis arrives this week for a close pass of Earth. This isn't the end of the world but a new beginning for research into potentially hazardous asteroids [A computer generated image of a near Earth asteroid] A computer-generated image of a near-Earth asteroid. Astronomers will get a close-up view of Apophis on Wednesday. Photograph: Planetary Resources/EPA Apophis hit the headlines in December 2004. Six months after its discovery, astronomers had accrued enough images to calculate a reasonable orbit for the 300-metre chunk of space rock. What they saw was shocking. There was a roughly 1 in 300 chance of the asteroid hitting Earth during April 2029. Nasa issued a press release spurring astronomers around the world to take more observations in order to refine the orbit. Far from dropping, however, the chances of an impact on (you've guessed it) Friday 13 April 2029 actually rose. By Christmas Day 2004, the chance of the 2029 impact was 1 in 45 and things were looking serious. Then, on 27 December astronomers had a stroke of luck. Looking back through previous images, they found one from March on which the asteroid had been captured but had gone unnoticed. This significantly improved the orbital calculation and the chances of the 2029 impact dropped to essentially zero. However, the small chance of an impact in 2036 opened up and remains open today . While there is no cause for alarm, similarly there is no room for complacency either. Apophis remains on the list of Potentially Hazardous Asteroids compiled by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center. Although most asteroids are found in the belt of space between Mars and Jupiter, not all of them reside there. Apophis belongs to a group known as theAten family . These do not belong to the asteroid belt and spend most of their time inside the orbit of the Earth, placing them between our planet and the sun. That makes them particularly dangerous because they spend the majority of their orbit close to the sun, whose overwhelming glare obscures them to telescopes on Earth rather like a second world war fighter ace approaching out of the sun. Having crossed outside Earth's orbit, Apophis will appear briefly in the night-time sky. Wednesday 9 January will afford astronomers the rare opportunity to bring a battery of telescopes to bear: from optical telescopes to radio telescopes to the European Space Agency's Infrared Space Observatory Herschel. Two of the biggest unknowns that remain to be established are the asteroid's mass and the way it is spinning. Both of these affect the asteroid's orbit and without them, precise calculations cannot be made. Another unknown is the way sunlight affects the asteroid's orbit, either through heating the asteroid or the pressure of sunlight itself . Russia has announced tentative plans to land a tracking beacon on Apophis sometime after 2020 , so that its orbit can be much more precisely followed from Earth. Wednesday's pass is only really close by astronomical standards, taking place at around 14.5 million kilometres above Earth's surface. The moon's orbit is 385,000 km. The 2029 close pass is another matter entirely,
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It would be real nice to get the Dome numbers of people meditating up before this happens. **!The sky is Falling!** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. For a start, it's happened before - a good many times and with a great deal of mass extinction. Sure, every time a big one hits there's one less big one *to* hit but just in my life there have been several instances of previously unknown asteroids crossing between the Earth and Moon. In 1989 one that, had it been travelling one millionth of a mile an hour slower, would have hit in the middle of the atlantic and set off every volcano and earthquake faultline on earth, not to mention swamping Europe, Africa and the America's with the resulting tsunami. Hardly a rare occurrence then but something to loose sleep over? Not for me but just think, there were three in the last century that struck land, one in Siberia, one in Arabia and one in south America. No known casualties but there was massive destruction in each case. Millions of felled trees in Tunguska, a desert melted into glass in Arabia. I often wonder what would have happened at the height of the cold war if, say, New York or Moscow had been suddenly vapourised by an incoming comet. Would the powers that be been able to stop themselves retaliating against the mistaken foe? Most of these things are unknown before they flash by close enough to part our hair, cosmically speaking, without us being aware of their existence - except this one. Anyway, it's all just something to help keep life in perspective Apophis a 'potentially hazardous' asteroid flies by Earth on Wednesday Asteroid Apophis arrives this week for a close pass of Earth. This isn't the end of the world but a new beginning for research into potentially hazardous asteroids [A computer generated image of a near Earth asteroid] A computer-generated image of a near-Earth asteroid. Astronomers will get a close-up view of Apophis on Wednesday. Photograph: Planetary Resources/EPA Apophis hit the headlines in December 2004. Six months after its discovery, astronomers had accrued enough images to calculate a reasonable orbit for the 300-metre chunk of space rock. What they saw was shocking. There was a roughly 1 in 300 chance of the asteroid hitting Earth during April 2029. Nasa issued a press release spurring astronomers around the world to take more observations in order to refine the orbit. Far from dropping, however, the chances of an impact on (you've guessed it) Friday 13 April 2029 actually rose. By Christmas Day 2004, the chance of the 2029 impact was 1 in 45 and things were looking serious. Then, on 27 December astronomers had a stroke of luck. Looking back through previous images, they found one from March on which the asteroid had been captured but had gone unnoticed. This significantly improved the orbital calculation and the chances of the 2029 impact dropped to essentially zero. However, the small chance of an impact in 2036 opened up and remains open today . While there is no cause for alarm, similarly there is no room for complacency either. Apophis remains on the list of Potentially Hazardous Asteroids compiled by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center. Although most asteroids are found in the belt of space between Mars and Jupiter, not all of them reside there. Apophis belongs to a group known as theAten family . These do not belong to the asteroid belt and spend most of their time inside the orbit of the Earth, placing them between our planet and the sun. That makes them particularly dangerous because they spend the majority of their orbit close to the sun, whose overwhelming glare obscures them to telescopes on Earth rather like a second world war fighter ace approaching out of the sun. Having crossed outside Earth's orbit, Apophis will appear briefly in the night-time sky. Wednesday 9 January will afford astronomers the rare opportunity to bring a battery of telescopes to bear: from optical telescopes to radio telescopes to the European Space Agency's Infrared Space Observatory Herschel. Two of the biggest unknowns that remain to be established are the asteroid's mass and the way it is spinning. Both of these affect the asteroid's orbit and without them, precise calculations cannot be made. Another unknown is the way sunlight affects the asteroid's orbit, either through heating the asteroid or the pressure of sunlight itself . Russia has announced tentative plans to land a tracking beacon on Apophis sometime after 2020 , so that its orbit can be much more precisely followed from Earth. Wednesday's pass is only
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Earthlings preparing to catch falling sky and or to give Buck Mr. Enthusiasm even on Monday morning after all the holidays a big hug. Judy I promise it's a platonic hug (-: From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 6:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real armageddon It would be real nice to get the Dome numbers of people meditating up before this happens. **!The sky is Falling!** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. For a start, it's happened before - a good many times and with a great deal of mass extinction. Sure, every time a big one hits there's one less big one *to* hit but just in my life there have been several instances of previously unknown asteroids crossing between the Earth and Moon. In 1989 one that, had it been travelling one millionth of a mile an hour slower, would have hit in the middle of the atlantic and set off every volcano and earthquake faultline on earth, not to mention swamping Europe, Africa and the America's with the resulting tsunami. Hardly a rare occurrence then but something to loose sleep over? Not for me but just think, there were three in the last century that struck land, one in Siberia, one in Arabia and one in south America. No known casualties but there was massive destruction in each case. Millions of felled trees in Tunguska, a desert melted into glass in Arabia. I often wonder what would have happened at the height of the cold war if, say, New York or Moscow had been suddenly vapourised by an incoming comet. Would the powers that be been able to stop themselves retaliating against the mistaken foe? Most of these things are unknown before they flash by close enough to part our hair, cosmically speaking, without us being aware of their existence - except this one. Anyway, it's all just something to help keep life in perspective Apophis – a 'potentially hazardous' asteroid – flies by Earth on Wednesday Asteroid Apophis arrives this week for a close pass of Earth. This isn't the end of the world but a new beginning for research into potentially hazardous asteroids [A computer generated image of a near Earth asteroid] A computer-generated image of a near-Earth asteroid. Astronomers will get a close-up view of Apophis on Wednesday. Photograph: Planetary Resources/EPA Apophis hit the headlines in December 2004. Six months after its discovery, astronomers had accrued enough images to calculate a reasonable orbit for the 300-metre chunk of space rock. What they saw was shocking. There was a roughly 1 in 300 chance of the asteroid hitting Earth during April 2029. Nasa issued a press release spurring astronomers around the world to take more observations in order to refine the orbit. Far from dropping, however, the chances of an impact on (you've guessed it) Friday 13 April 2029 actually rose. By Christmas Day 2004, the chance of the 2029 impact was 1 in 45 and things were looking serious. Then, on 27 December astronomers had a stroke of luck. Looking back through previous images, they found one from March on which the asteroid had been captured but had gone unnoticed. This significantly improved the orbital calculation and the chances of the 2029 impact dropped to essentially zero. However, the small chance of an impact in 2036 opened up and remains open today . While there is no cause for alarm, similarly there is no room for complacency either. Apophis remains on the list of Potentially Hazardous Asteroids compiled by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center. Although most asteroids are found in the belt of space between Mars and Jupiter, not all of them reside there. Apophis belongs to a group known as theAten family . These do not belong to the asteroid belt and spend most of their time inside the orbit of the Earth, placing them between our planet and the sun. That makes them particularly dangerous because they spend the majority of their orbit close to the sun, whose overwhelming glare obscures them to telescopes on Earth – rather like a second world war fighter ace approaching out of the sun. Having crossed outside Earth's orbit, Apophis will appear briefly in the night-time sky. Wednesday 9 January will afford astronomers the rare opportunity to bring a battery of telescopes to bear: from optical telescopes to radio telescopes to the European Space Agency's Infrared Space Observatory Herschel. Two of the biggest unknowns that remain to be established are the asteroid's mass and the way it is spinning. Both of these affect the asteroid's orbit and without them, precise
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: **!The sky is Falling!** Don't worry Buck your shield of coherence will protect us. Had an interesting chat with a TM teacher about this once. He was arguing against Darwinism, claiming that the human form is an expression of gods will - as detailed in King Tony's curious books. Basically, he claimed, human evolution has been set to take us to our current exalted perfection by nature (god's will) which runs the universe in perfect order and without a problem, apparently. I objected on the grounds (amongst other things)that without several unpredictable mass extinctions on the way, life could have taken many different paths away from the direction it ended up in. It can hardly be god's will to destroy most of his creations to make room for something better, it's like admitting you've made a mistake! And would any dinosaurs or trilobites have ended up conscious? No, and I can say that with confidence because none of them did, in all the hundreds of millions of years they were around. Not conscious like we are anyway, obviously they were conscious of their surroundings - you know what I mean, conscious as in able to sit around discussing whether other animals are conscious and having opinions on that is what we're talking about. Anyway, it took an amazing amount of coincidences to sweep the inconveniently dominant dino's etc out of the way so some apes with their opposable thumbs could step into the sunlight. But my TM friend was having none of it, in order for us to be god's supreme creation the whole thing must have been planned and the random extinctions part of the grand design. This is the danger of religious thinking, once you've decided on the truth everything else has to be adapted or discarded until it fits. The discussion ended with me asking what would happen to his theory of divinely inspired evolution if another asteroid hit the earth tomorrow, and he said it wouldn't because of our coherence protecting us, and the more TM-ish the world becomes the stronger natures protection will be. Gawd, these cultish beliefs are odd when you look at them close. IMO meditation will protect us from meteors the same way SV homes protect us from forest fires. In our dreams.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: It would be real nice to get the Dome numbers of people meditating up before this happens. Yes, they will provide the human shield necessary to divert the object. Good thinking Buck. **!The sky is Falling!** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. For a start, it's happened before - a good many times and with a great deal of mass extinction. Sure, every time a big one hits there's one less big one *to* hit but just in my life there have been several instances of previously unknown asteroids crossing between the Earth and Moon. In 1989 one that, had it been travelling one millionth of a mile an hour slower, would have hit in the middle of the atlantic and set off every volcano and earthquake faultline on earth, not to mention swamping Europe, Africa and the America's with the resulting tsunami. Hardly a rare occurrence then but something to loose sleep over? Not for me but just think, there were three in the last century that struck land, one in Siberia, one in Arabia and one in south America. No known casualties but there was massive destruction in each case. Millions of felled trees in Tunguska, a desert melted into glass in Arabia. I often wonder what would have happened at the height of the cold war if, say, New York or Moscow had been suddenly vapourised by an incoming comet. Would the powers that be been able to stop themselves retaliating against the mistaken foe? Most of these things are unknown before they flash by close enough to part our hair, cosmically speaking, without us being aware of their existence - except this one. Anyway, it's all just something to help keep life in perspective Apophis a 'potentially hazardous' asteroid flies by Earth on Wednesday Asteroid Apophis arrives this week for a close pass of Earth. This isn't the end of the world but a new beginning for research into potentially hazardous asteroids [A computer generated image of a near Earth asteroid] A computer-generated image of a near-Earth asteroid. Astronomers will get a close-up view of Apophis on Wednesday. Photograph: Planetary Resources/EPA Apophis hit the headlines in December 2004. Six months after its discovery, astronomers had accrued enough images to calculate a reasonable orbit for the 300-metre chunk of space rock. What they saw was shocking. There was a roughly 1 in 300 chance of the asteroid hitting Earth during April 2029. Nasa issued a press release spurring astronomers around the world to take more observations in order to refine the orbit. Far from dropping, however, the chances of an impact on (you've guessed it) Friday 13 April 2029 actually rose. By Christmas Day 2004, the chance of the 2029 impact was 1 in 45 and things were looking serious. Then, on 27 December astronomers had a stroke of luck. Looking back through previous images, they found one from March on which the asteroid had been captured but had gone unnoticed. This significantly improved the orbital calculation and the chances of the 2029 impact dropped to essentially zero. However, the small chance of an impact in 2036 opened up and remains open today . While there is no cause for alarm, similarly there is no room for complacency either. Apophis remains on the list of Potentially Hazardous Asteroids compiled by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center. Although most asteroids are found in the belt of space between Mars and Jupiter, not all of them reside there. Apophis belongs to a group known as theAten family . These do not belong to the asteroid belt and spend most of their time inside the orbit of the Earth, placing them between our planet and the sun. That makes them particularly dangerous because they spend the majority of their orbit close to the sun, whose overwhelming glare obscures them to telescopes on Earth rather like a second world war fighter ace approaching out of the sun. Having crossed outside Earth's orbit, Apophis will appear briefly in the night-time sky. Wednesday 9 January will afford astronomers the rare opportunity to bring a battery of telescopes to bear: from optical telescopes to radio telescopes to the European Space Agency's Infrared Space Observatory Herschel. Two of the biggest unknowns that remain to be established are the asteroid's mass and the way it is spinning. Both of these affect the asteroid's orbit and without them, precise calculations cannot be made. Another unknown is the way sunlight affects the asteroid's orbit, either through heating the
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Thanks salya, I enjoyed this article a lot. Even when I realized I'll be 80 when it happens. Yikes! (-: Don't worry Share, there are plenty out there we don't know about that might surprise us long before that. Here's hoping, em...you know what I mean... From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 5:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The real armageddon  I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. For a start, it's happened before - a good many times and with a great deal of mass extinction. Sure, every time a big one hits there's one less big one *to* hit but just in my life there have been several instances of previously unknown asteroids crossing between the Earth and Moon. In 1989 one that, had it been travelling one millionth of a mile an hour slower, would have hit in the middle of the atlantic and set off every volcano and earthquake faultline on earth, not to mention swamping Europe, Africa and the America's with the resulting tsunami. Hardly a rare occurrence then but something to loose sleep over? Not for me but just think, there were three in the last century that struck land, one in Siberia, one in Arabia and one in south America. No known casualties but there was massive destruction in each case. Millions of felled trees in Tunguska, a desert melted into glass in Arabia. I often wonder what would have happened at the height of the cold war if, say, New York or Moscow had been suddenly vapourised by an incoming comet. Would the powers that be been able to stop themselves retaliating against the mistaken foe? Most of these things are unknown before they flash by close enough to part our hair, cosmically speaking, without us being aware of their existence - except this one. Anyway, it's all just something to help keep life in perspective Apophis â a 'potentially hazardous' asteroid â flies by Earth on Wednesday Asteroid Apophis arrives this week for a close pass of Earth. This isn't the end of the world but a new beginning for research into potentially hazardous asteroids A computer-generated image of a near-Earth asteroid. Astronomers will get a close-up view of Apophis on Wednesday. Photograph: Planetary Resources/EPA Apophis hit the headlines in December 2004. Six months after its discovery, astronomers had accrued enough images to calculate a reasonable orbit for the 300-metre chunk of space rock. What they saw was shocking. There was a roughly 1 in 300 chance of the asteroid hitting Earth during April 2029. Nasa issued a press release spurring astronomers around the world to take more observations in order to refine the orbit. Far from dropping, however, the chances of an impact on (you've guessed it) Friday 13 April 2029 actually rose. By Christmas Day 2004, the chance of the 2029 impact was 1 in 45 and things were looking serious. Then, on 27 December astronomers had a stroke of luck. Looking back through previous images, they found one from March on which the asteroid had been captured but had gone unnoticed. This significantly improved the orbital calculation and the chances of the 2029 impact dropped to essentially zero. However, the small chance of an impact in 2036 opened up and remains open today. While there is no cause for alarm, similarly there is no room for complacency either. Apophis remains on the list of Potentially Hazardous Asteroids compiled by the International Astronomical Union's Minor Planet Center. Although most asteroids are found in the belt of space between Mars and Jupiter, not all of them reside there. Apophis belongs to a group known as theAten family. These do not belong to the asteroid belt and spend most of their time inside the orbit of the Earth, placing them between our planet and the sun. That makes them particularly dangerous because they spend the majority of their orbit close to the sun, whose overwhelming glare obscures them to telescopes on Earth â rather like a second world war fighter ace approaching out of the sun. Having crossed outside Earth's orbit, Apophis will appear briefly in the night-time sky. Wednesday 9 January will afford astronomers the rare opportunity to bring a battery of telescopes to bear: from optical telescopes to radio telescopes to the European Space Agency's Infrared Space Observatory Herschel. Two of the biggest unknowns that remain to be established are the asteroid's mass and the way it is spinning. Both of these affect the asteroid's orbit and without them, precise calculations cannot be made. Another unknown is the way sunlight affects the asteroid's orbit, either through heating the asteroid or the pressure of sunlight
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/07/2013 03:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. If we weren't so busy warring with each other then we might put together a space force that could easily deflect any such threat. Apparently humans aren't evolved enough for that even if their technology is. Of course then there is always the possibility that some small brained ignorant psychopath might try to take over the space force and start killing earthlings themselves. Some good plans have already been put forward to thwart any large potential impacters with nuclear weapons but the budget would largely be a waste because most of these Near Earth Objects aren't seen until it's too late or even until they've gone past. And even if we do have one in our sights for demolition there's no guarantee we wouldn't just break it up into smaller radioactive bits that still hit the Earth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The real armageddon....
salyavin808, You are in error about a few things. Most incoming objects are NOT radioactive and hitting the Earth does not make them radioactive. Nor would the pieces of an object that was blown to smithereens be especially radioactive given the size of the typical object, e.g. Mt. Everest sized-ish. Remember that even an earthly hurricane packs the wallop of TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND nukes. Blowing up a hurricane is impossible, see? Same deal with other objects as large as that. Almost all the extinction level objects that might hit us are known because they're very large and can be seen from great distances. True, there could be rogues that come from an odd angle instead of along the solar plane's disk, but they too are being watched for, but yes, not all directions are equally watched. And blowing up these objects is in almost every scenario now considered foolish, because, 1. We can't blow up much even with the biggest bombs we ever made. 2. If we did blow them up, all the pieces could do even more damage as they hit Earth.think Gatling Gun instead of cannonball. 3. A nuke's wave-front impact on an object would hardly be but a faint nudge. 4. They now know that, given an advanced warning, they can send out a rather small satellite that will hover nearby the incoming object, and even the slight gravitational attraction between them can EASILY change the orbit of the object away from hitting Earth.just need a few months or a year or so if the thing is really big. It takes about a 6-10 mile wide object to be a planet killer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous%E2%80%93Paleogene_boundary Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/07/2013 03:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. If we weren't so busy warring with each other then we might put together a space force that could easily deflect any such threat. Apparently humans aren't evolved enough for that even if their technology is. Of course then there is always the possibility that some small brained ignorant psychopath might try to take over the space force and start killing earthlings themselves. Some good plans have already been put forward to thwart any large potential impacters with nuclear weapons but the budget would largely be a waste because most of these Near Earth Objects aren't seen until it's too late or even until they've gone past. And even if we do have one in our sights for demolition there's no guarantee we wouldn't just break it up into smaller radioactive bits that still hit the Earth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The real armageddon....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: salyavin808, You are in error about a few things. Most incoming objects are NOT radioactive and hitting the Earth does not make them radioactive. Never said they were old chap. Nor would the pieces of an object that was blown to smithereens be especially radioactive given the size of the typical object, e.g. Mt. Everest sized-ish. Remember that even an earthly hurricane packs the wallop of TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND nukes. Blowing up a hurricane is impossible, see? Same deal with other objects as large as that. Wasn't my idea, I was passing along theories that have been abandoned. Almost all the extinction level objects that might hit us are known because they're very large and can be seen from great distances. It's not known if they are known or not. And, as I've pointed out most are not and there have been at least three impacts in the last hundred years that would have destroyed any large city. And that's leaving out the ones that just come close. True, there could be rogues that come from an odd angle instead of along the solar plane's disk, but they too are being watched for, but yes, not all directions are equally watched. And blowing up these objects is in almost every scenario now considered foolish, because, 1. We can't blow up much even with the biggest bombs we ever made. 2. If we did blow them up, all the pieces could do even more damage as they hit Earth.think Gatling Gun instead of cannonball. 3. A nuke's wave-front impact on an object would hardly be but a faint nudge. 4. They now know that, given an advanced warning, they can send out a rather small satellite that will hover nearby the incoming object, and even the slight gravitational attraction between them can EASILY change the orbit of the object away from hitting Earth.just need a few months or a year or so if the thing is really big. It takes about a 6-10 mile wide object to be a planet killer. Nice idea, but you've got to see them first! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous%E2%80%93Paleogene_boundary Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/07/2013 03:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that this is how the world ends, maybe not with this particular asteroid, this particular time but someday. If we weren't so busy warring with each other then we might put together a space force that could easily deflect any such threat. Apparently humans aren't evolved enough for that even if their technology is. Of course then there is always the possibility that some small brained ignorant psychopath might try to take over the space force and start killing earthlings themselves. Some good plans have already been put forward to thwart any large potential impacters with nuclear weapons but the budget would largely be a waste because most of these Near Earth Objects aren't seen until it's too late or even until they've gone past. And even if we do have one in our sights for demolition there's no guarantee we wouldn't just break it up into smaller radioactive bits that still hit the Earth.
