[FairfieldLife] Re: Why a personal Guru is necessary....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You walk away from TM as I did many years ago and after a while I came > across a guru here in the US through a friend. Basically a guru is > someone who has mastered a path (sort of like mastering a guitar) and > can teach you to master the same path. Indeed if the Guru is a Sat-Guru he can bring you directly to God, however if the Guru is merely a human teacher (like many are, maybe even MMY) he can still give you a good Sadhana but will be unable to assist you on the inner planes because he must be enlightened to do that and hence the title Sat-Guru or true guru. However, even if you have a Sat Guru, he still merely acts as a human teacher until the student has achieved (by his Sadhana) the out of Body experience, i.e. has consciously risen above body consciousness and into the astral/spiritual realms were he meets the Guru awaiting his arrival to introduce and guide him to the great Sat-Chit-Anandam. > It's not as big a deal as a lot > of people make it out to be. There are plenty of these people all over > of the world. Some advertise themselves usually in the Indian press as > astrologers. And the charlatans way outnumber the real ones so you have > to be knowledgeable to separate the wheat from the chaff. I tested my > guru (and him me) for six months before I started. > > Personal gurus have the time and the authority to teach you things like > mantra shastra and above all answer questions one on one especially the > ones that can't be addressed in a group. Those are the things a "pop" > guru can't do.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why a personal Guru is necessary....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What you want is an archarya. Preferably a tantra archarya since there > is no support for the renunciate path in the west. They have the > capabilities to do what you are saying though most of it is quite simple > but some charlatans have blown it a bit out of proportion. Yeah, you can get Deeksha at the corner dime store now!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why a personal Guru is necessary....
BillyG. wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> You walk away from TM as I did many years ago and after a while I came >> across a guru here in the US through a friend. Basically a guru is >> someone who has mastered a path (sort of like mastering a guitar) and >> can teach you to master the same path. >> > > Indeed if the Guru is a Sat-Guru he can bring you directly to God, > however if the Guru is merely a human teacher (like many are, maybe > even MMY) he can still give you a good Sadhana but will be unable to > assist you on the inner planes because he must be enlightened to do > that and hence the title Sat-Guru or true guru. > > However, even if you have a Sat Guru, he still merely acts as a human > teacher until the student has achieved (by his Sadhana) the out of > Body experience, i.e. has consciously risen above body consciousness > and into the astral/spiritual realms were he meets the Guru awaiting > his arrival to introduce and guide him to the great Sat-Chit-Anandam. What you want is an archarya. Preferably a tantra archarya since there is no support for the renunciate path in the west. They have the capabilities to do what you are saying though most of it is quite simple but some charlatans have blown it a bit out of proportion.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why a personal Guru is necessary....
BillyG. wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> What you want is an archarya. Preferably a tantra archarya since there >> is no support for the renunciate path in the west. They have the >> capabilities to do what you are saying though most of it is quite >> > simple > >> but some charlatans have blown it a bit out of proportion. >> > > Yeah, you can get Deeksha at the corner dime store now! > > > Hmm, haven't noticed that at Wal-Mart.