[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> TorquiseB writes:
> It's back to the olde "ends justify the means"
> issue.  You think they do; I think that the means
> *are* the end, and that if one attempts to do 
> something ethical by acting unethically, then 
> one deserves the karmas one gets.  Since this
> seems to be your chosen path in life, I wish
> you well with the karmas such an approach 
> create...
> 
> Tom T:
> From the Alistair Shearer Treanlation of Patanjali.
> Chapter 2 vs 36. When we are established in truthfulness, action
> accomplishes its desired end.
> C2 vs 37. When we are firmly established in integrity, all riches
> present themselves freely.
> C2 vs 39. When we are established in non-attachment, the nature and
> purpose of existence is understood.
> Tom T
>
Hi Tom, Thanks for once again drawing a perfect circle of invisible 
string. You've reminded me again to find a copy of the Alistair 
Shearer Translation of Patanjali






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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > > > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > > > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > > > > is gone.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think it tells us that he has no spine, and
> > > > > is not likely to develop one.
> > > > 
> > > > It might, or it might not.  If he actually does want
> > > > to take over the movement after MMY's death, it
> > > > wouldn't make a lot of sense for him to create a ruckus
> > > > at this point and kill his chances of doing so.
> > > 
> > > Yes, that's the approach someone without a spine
> > > would take, all right.
> > 
> > Not if his plan is to remake the movement once
> > MMY dies.
> 
> We must agree to disagree. In my book, someone who
> wanted to remake the TM movement would not do so
> by pretending to go along with its current line
> of bullshit.

That isn't what *you* would do, you mean.

 If you consider that ethical, I suggest
> that it says a lot about your own ethics.

Hmm, I don't believe I said anything about
ethics, did I?  I believe you made that up.

> > Sometimes it takes more spine to go along with
> > something and just absorb the scorn for the sake
> > of a future goal.
> 
> There you have it. You are suggesting that it would
> be ethical for a person to lie and pretend to be
> something that he's not if his intent somewhere 
> down the road was to "do the right thing," eh?  

Again, I didn't say a word about ethics.  I didn't
even say I approved of doing what I suggested he
might be doing.

I'm just pointing out that your criteria for 
judging him to be without spine don't hold up.

> It's back to the olde "ends justify the means"
> issue.  You think they do

In some cases, certainly.  But the bar is pretty
high.

; I think that the means
> *are* the end, and that if one attempts to do 
> something ethical by acting unethically, then 
> one deserves the karmas one gets.  Since this
> seems to be your chosen path in life,

It does?  What unethical things do you imagine
I've done?

 I wish
> you well with the karmas such an approach 
> create...

I would hope whatever choices I make are such that
the karmas involved at least balance out.  All any
of us can do is what seems to us to be right, then
let the chips fall where they may.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
> > > to people and organizations that *really* deserve
> > > it and that might actually do something to change
> > > the world in a positive way would be worth the
> > > sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
> > > laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
> > > of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
> > > be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)
> > 
> > Do I detect a bit of cynisism about ...WOMEN? 
> 
> Only mercenary women.  :-)
> 
> > (VBG - for the humor impaired) (How could you? It's so 
> > 'against natual law' and all that) 
> 
> Yeah, but since I believe that "natural law" is
> an enormous crock of shit and has no relationship
> to reality on any level, I don't think you can ask
> me to be that concerned about it.  :-)
> 
> > Of Course you could just give that 10 trillion for the 
> > Lynch Foundation naw..never mind...
> 
> That's a thought.  How many people could they 
> lynch for 10 trillion?
>

;-) The irony is too deep to follow - almost transcendental ...








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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Though Catherine Deneuve deciding to date you is a real 
> > possibility. 
> 
> Stranger things have happened. She's currently involved
> with a guy who weighs about 130 pounds more than me and
> has a honker so enormous that when he played Cyrano de
> Bergerac, he almost didn't need a fake nose.  

Damn. She told me she was going to keep our affair a secret.

> So though
> I agree with you that the chances of such a thing are
> pretty slim, still...who *knows* what goes on in the
> heads of women with regard to the men they choose.  :-)

The drugs you secretly gave them? Pity? Humor? A story to tell her
grandchildren? ("Oui, C'est vrai cherie, I did the US SIMS Washington
State Coordinator! Can you believe it!")









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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> --- authfriend wrote: 
>
> > Sometimes it takes more spine to go along with
> > something and just absorb the scorn for the sake
> > of a future goal.
> 
> There you have it. You are suggesting that it would
> be ethical for a person to lie and pretend to be
> something that he's not if his intent somewhere 
> down the road was to "do the right thing," eh?  

My comment has nothing to do with intentions, but 
rather relates a few anecdotes about insiders wielding 
power. When they rise to the top, sometimes they 
surprise people by acting in ways contrary to the 
actions that got them into power in the first place.

Chester A. Arthur was a machine politician who found 
himself president when James Garfield was assassinated. 
I found the following at

http://www.americanpresident.org/history/chesterccrthur/

"As President, Arthur surprised everyone by acting independently, defying his 
state-based 
reputation as a slick machine politician who would advance the agenda of his 
own party 
faction and ignore the needs of the nation at-large. Domestic affairs dominated 
his 
presidency. In reforming civil service, Arthur supported the Pendleton Act, 
which 
attempted to counter patronage and cronyism by requiring competitive exams for 
government office. Specifically, the law banned salary kickbacks and ensured 
that 
promotion would be based on merit, not connections. While the Republican Party 
usually 
worked to protect big business and manufacturing, Arthur pushed for tariff 
reduction to 
relieve indebted farmers and middle-class consumers. He also vetoed the 
notorious pork-
barrel Rivers and Harbors Act of 1882, arguing that the growing surplus of 
federal funds 
should be decreased by tax reductions rather than government expenditures."

Would other examples be Richard Nixon's opening of China and Ronald Reagan's 
detente 
with the Soviet Union? I've read they rose to power in part on the strength of 
their 
credentials as anticommunists, but then they turned around and made nice with 
the 
communists.

It makes sense for insiders to effect reforms. Who better knows how the system 
should 
change?

I'm not saying any of Maharishi's successors will change anything. I expect the 
hagiographers and money-holders will win the day. Still, I'm open to being 
surprised.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Um, Barry, what about your girlfriend who could supposedly eat 
> > > whatever she wanted to without gaining an ounce?  Did she pass 
> > > out from bulimia or something?
> > 
> > She's French. She'd probably understand.
> > 
> > We are talking, after all, about the country in which
> > the funeral procession for the last leader of the
> > country (Mitterand) contained his wife and kids walking
> > side by side with his mistress and kids.  Go figure.
> > 
> > But since the chances of the TMO actually raising the
> > 10 trillion bucks are almost as remote as the chances
> > of them giving it to me, I suspect the whole point 
> > is moot.  :-)
> 
> Though Catherine Deneuve deciding to date you is a real 
> possibility. 

Stranger things have happened. She's currently involved
with a guy who weighs about 130 pounds more than me and
has a honker so enormous that when he played Cyrano de
Bergerac, he almost didn't need a fake nose.  So though
I agree with you that the chances of such a thing are
pretty slim, still...who *knows* what goes on in the
heads of women with regard to the men they choose.  :-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
TorquiseB writes:
It's back to the olde "ends justify the means"
issue.  You think they do; I think that the means
*are* the end, and that if one attempts to do 
something ethical by acting unethically, then 
one deserves the karmas one gets.  Since this
seems to be your chosen path in life, I wish
you well with the karmas such an approach 
create...

Tom T:
>From the Alistair Shearer Treanlation of Patanjali.
Chapter 2 vs 36. When we are established in truthfulness, action
accomplishes its desired end.
C2 vs 37. When we are firmly established in integrity, all riches
present themselves freely.
C2 vs 39. When we are established in non-attachment, the nature and
purpose of existence is understood.
Tom T






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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Um, Barry, what about your girlfriend who could supposedly eat 
> > whatever she wanted to without gaining an ounce?  Did she pass 
> > out from bulimia or something?
> 
> She's French. She'd probably understand.
> 
> We are talking, after all, about the country in which
> the funeral procession for the last leader of the
> country (Mitterand) contained his wife and kids walking
> side by side with his mistress and kids.  Go figure.
> 
> But since the chances of the TMO actually raising the
> 10 trillion bucks are almost as remote as the chances
> of them giving it to me, I suspect the whole point 
> is moot.  :-)

Though Catherine Deneuve deciding to date you is a real possibility. 
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Um, Barry, what about your girlfriend who could supposedly eat 
> whatever she wanted to without gaining an ounce?  Did she pass 
> out from bulimia or something?

She's French. She'd probably understand.

We are talking, after all, about the country in which
the funeral procession for the last leader of the
country (Mitterand) contained his wife and kids walking
side by side with his mistress and kids.  Go figure.

But since the chances of the TMO actually raising the
10 trillion bucks are almost as remote as the chances
of them giving it to me, I suspect the whole point 
is moot.  :-)








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
Um, Barry, what about your girlfriend who could supposedly eat whatever she wanted to without gaining an ounce?  Did she pass out from bulimia or something?

Sal


On Jan 19, 2006, at 2:03 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
 to people and organizations that *really* deserve
 it and that might actually do something to change
 the world in a positive way would be worth the
 sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
 laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
 of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
 be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)


[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 1/19/06 2:03 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
> > to people and organizations that *really* deserve
> > it and that might actually do something to change
> > the world in a positive way would be worth the
> > sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
> > laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
> > of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
> > be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)
> 
> They're all in their 50's and 60's. Still interested?

Depends on the woman. For example:

Catherine Deneuve is 62.
Natalie Baye is 57.
Isabelle Adjani is 50.
Charlotte Rampling is 60.
Glenn Close is 57.
Helen Mirren is 60.
Meryl Streep is 61.
Sigourney Weaver is 56.
Kim Basinger is 52.
Raquel Welch is 65 (and still looks great).







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/19/06 2:03 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
> to people and organizations that *really* deserve
> it and that might actually do something to change
> the world in a positive way would be worth the
> sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
> laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
> of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
> be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)

They're all in their 50's and 60's. Still interested?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > > > is gone.
> > > > 
> > > > I think it tells us that he has no spine, and
> > > > is not likely to develop one.
> > > 
> > > It might, or it might not.  If he actually does want
> > > to take over the movement after MMY's death, it
> > > wouldn't make a lot of sense for him to create a ruckus
> > > at this point and kill his chances of doing so.
> > 
> > Yes, that's the approach someone without a spine
> > would take, all right.
> 
> Not if his plan is to remake the movement once
> MMY dies.

We must agree to disagree. In my book, someone who
wanted to remake the TM movement would not do so
by pretending to go along with its current line
of bullshit. If you consider that ethical, I suggest
that it says a lot about your own ethics.

> Sometimes it takes more spine to go along with
> something and just absorb the scorn for the sake
> of a future goal.

There you have it. You are suggesting that it would
be ethical for a person to lie and pretend to be
something that he's not if his intent somewhere 
down the road was to "do the right thing," eh?  

It's back to the olde "ends justify the means"
issue.  You think they do; I think that the means
*are* the end, and that if one attempts to do 
something ethical by acting unethically, then 
one deserves the karmas one gets.  Since this
seems to be your chosen path in life, I wish
you well with the karmas such an approach 
create...










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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
> > to people and organizations that *really* deserve
> > it and that might actually do something to change
> > the world in a positive way would be worth the
> > sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
> > laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
> > of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
> > be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)
> 
> Do I detect a bit of cynisism about ...WOMEN? 

Only mercenary women.  :-)

> (VBG - for the humor impaired) (How could you? It's so 
> 'against natual law' and all that) 

Yeah, but since I believe that "natural law" is
an enormous crock of shit and has no relationship
to reality on any level, I don't think you can ask
me to be that concerned about it.  :-)

> Of Course you could just give that 10 trillion for the 
> Lynch Foundation naw..never mind...

That's a thought.  How many people could they 
lynch for 10 trillion?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > > is gone.
> > > 
> > > I think it tells us that he has no spine, and
> > > is not likely to develop one.
> > 
> > It might, or it might not.  If he actually does want
> > to take over the movement after MMY's death, it
> > wouldn't make a lot of sense for him to create a ruckus
> > at this point and kill his chances of doing so.
> 
> Yes, that's the approach someone without a spine
> would take, all right.

Not if his plan is to remake the movement once
MMY dies.

Sometimes it takes more spine to go along with
something and just absorb the scorn for the sake
of a future goal.

Caveat for the literal-minded: I'm not saying I
think or hope this is what's going on; merely
that we can't rule it out.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> > > > > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> > > > > 
> > > > > So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a 
> > > > > link?
> > > > 
> > > > I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> > > > that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> > > > has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> > > > do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> > > > bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> > > > many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> > > > sane and that better days might be in store for the
> > > > TMO after Maharishi's death.
> > > 
> > > I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
> > > such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > is gone.
> > 
> > Barry: does that mean you be rejoining the TMO once MMY drops 
> > the body and Tony takes over the helms?
> 
> Yeah, right. When Bevans fly.  :-)
> 
> Actually, there IS one scenario in which I would
> rejoin the TM movement. If it succeeded in raising
> 10 trillion dollars and agreed to give *all* of it
> to me, I'd gladly pretend to be part of the TMO
> again. It's not like I'd teach TM or attend any
> meetings or anything, but I'd agree to pay lip
> service to the TMO by keeping my mouth shut and 
> not criticizing it. Meanwhile, I'd take the money 
> and give it away to spiritual and charitable 
> institutions *other* than the TMO. Every penny of 
> it. The minute the money was gone, I'd be back to 
> my old nagging, critical self again.
> 
> I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
> to people and organizations that *really* deserve
> it and that might actually do something to change
> the world in a positive way would be worth the
> sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
> laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
> of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
> be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)
>

Do I detect a bit of cynisism about ...WOMEN? (VBG - for the humor
impaired) (How could you? It's so 'against natual law' and all that) 

Of Course you could just give that 10 trillion for the Lynch
Foundation naw..never mind...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> > > > > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> > > > > 
> > > > > So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a 
> > > > > link?
> > > > 
> > > > I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> > > > that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> > > > has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> > > > do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> > > > bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> > > > many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> > > > sane and that better days might be in store for the
> > > > TMO after Maharishi's death.
> > > 
> > > I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
> > > such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > is gone.

I think there are 2 types left in the inner circle: (1) TBs saturated
with kool-aid, and in some cases with actual mental problems, who
whole heartedly support the craziness now and will after MMY dies, and
(2) more realistic types who are waiting for their chance to raid the
coffers and take over the business side of the TMO after MMY dies.

What I hear is that king tony is a figurehead without any real power,
signatory rights, or line authority in the org.  He'll preside over
public events but won't be a mover and shaker.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-19 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > > Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> > > > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> > > > 
> > > > So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a 
> > > > link?
> > > 
> > > I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)
> > > 
> > > It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> > > that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> > > has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> > > do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> > > bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> > > many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> > > sane and that better days might be in store for the
> > > TMO after Maharishi's death.
> > 
> > I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
> > such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?
> > 
> > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > is gone.
> 
> Barry: does that mean you be rejoining the TMO once MMY drops 
> the body and Tony takes over the helms?

Yeah, right. When Bevans fly.  :-)

Actually, there IS one scenario in which I would
rejoin the TM movement. If it succeeded in raising
10 trillion dollars and agreed to give *all* of it
to me, I'd gladly pretend to be part of the TMO
again. It's not like I'd teach TM or attend any
meetings or anything, but I'd agree to pay lip
service to the TMO by keeping my mouth shut and 
not criticizing it. Meanwhile, I'd take the money 
and give it away to spiritual and charitable 
institutions *other* than the TMO. Every penny of 
it. The minute the money was gone, I'd be back to 
my old nagging, critical self again.

I figure that being able to give 10 trillion bucks
to people and organizations that *really* deserve
it and that might actually do something to change
the world in a positive way would be worth the
sacrifice on my part. Heck, it might even get me
laid...from what I hear around here, if the women
of the TMO thought I had 10 trillion bucks, they'd
be lining up to hop into bed with me.  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-18 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > is gone.
> > 
> > I think it tells us that he has no spine, and
> > is not likely to develop one.
> 
> It might, or it might not.  If he actually does want
> to take over the movement after MMY's death, it
> wouldn't make a lot of sense for him to create a ruckus
> at this point and kill his chances of doing so.

Yes, that's the approach someone without a spine
would take, all right.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-18 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You may be leaving out the fact that, in his heart, he believes 
> what Maharishi says, as MMY did Guru Dev, and that he believes 
> that in doing everything his *Master* tells him to do he will 
> achieve the highest levels of consciousness. 

I'm sorry...I thought I covered all that with the
phrase, "doesn't have a spine."  :-)

> > > > It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> > > > that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> > > > has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> > > > do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> > > > bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> > > > many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> > > > sane and that better days might be in store for the
> > > > TMO after Maharishi's death.
> > > 
> > > I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
> > > such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > > is gone.
> > 
> > I think it tells us that he has no spine, and
> > is not likely to develop one.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-18 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> > > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> > > 
> > > So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a 
link?
> > 
> > I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)
> > 
> > It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> > that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> > has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> > do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> > bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> > many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> > sane and that better days might be in store for the
> > TMO after Maharishi's death.
> 
> I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
> such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?
> 
> On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> is gone.
>

Barry: does that mean you be rejoining the TMO once MMY drops the 
body and Tony takes over the helms?







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-18 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/18/06 7:16 PM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> You may be leaving out the fact that, in his heart, he believes what
> Maharishi says, as MMY did Guru Dev, and that he believes that in
> doing everything his *Master* tells him to do he will achieve the
> highest levels of consciousness.

It's worked for him so far. He's a king, he got his weight in gold, and he's
the only Caucasian who lives in Maharishi's house, which is considered a
high honor.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-18 Thread anonyff
You may be leaving out the fact that, in his heart, he believes what
Maharishi says, as MMY did Guru Dev, and that he believes that in
doing everything his *Master* tells him to do he will achieve the
highest levels of consciousness. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> > > > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> > > > 
> > > > So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a 
> > > > link?
> > > 
> > > I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)
> > > 
> > > It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> > > that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> > > has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> > > do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> > > bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> > > many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> > > sane and that better days might be in store for the
> > > TMO after Maharishi's death.
> > 
> > I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
> > such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?
> > 
> > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > is gone.
> 
> I think it tells us that he has no spine, and
> is not likely to develop one.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> > > > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> > > > 
> > > > So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a 
> > > > link?
> > > 
> > > I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)
> > > 
> > > It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> > > that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> > > has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> > > do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> > > bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> > > many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> > > sane and that better days might be in store for the
> > > TMO after Maharishi's death.
> > 
> > I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
> > such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?
> > 
> > On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> > not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> > tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> > is gone.
> 
> I think it tells us that he has no spine, and
> is not likely to develop one.

It might, or it might not.  If he actually does want
to take over the movement after MMY's death, it
wouldn't make a lot of sense for him to create a ruckus
at this point and kill his chances of doing so.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-18 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> > > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> > > 
> > > So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a 
> > > link?
> > 
> > I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)
> > 
> > It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> > that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> > has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> > do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> > bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> > many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> > sane and that better days might be in store for the
> > TMO after Maharishi's death.
> 
> I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
> such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?
> 
> On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
> not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
> tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
> is gone.

I think it tells us that he has no spine, and
is not likely to develop one.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> > http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> > 
> > So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a link?
> 
> I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)
> 
> It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
> that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
> has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
> do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
> bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
> many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
> sane and that better days might be in store for the
> TMO after Maharishi's death.

I seriously doubt there are "many here" who have any
such "lingering hopes" to be smashed, Barry, don't you?

On the other hand, given that MMY is still alive, it's
not clear why Tony's going along with the standard bull
tells us anything about what he's going to do once MMY
is gone.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: royal decree #21

2006-01-18 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Guruphiliac quotes king tony's "royal decree #21" here:
> http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
> 
> So what are the first 20 royal decrees about?  Anyone have a link?

I don't even know what *this* one is about. :-)

It's nothing but a string of buzzwords and buzzphrases
that don't mean a damned thing except to someone who
has been brainwashed for years into thinking that they
do mean something. I would suggest that this level of
bullshit-slinging should smash the lingering hopes of
many here that underneath it all King Tony might be
sane and that better days might be in store for the
TMO after Maharishi's death. 

In the light of Ved, the Constitution of the Universe, Total Natural 
Law, the Will of God, it is my pleasure to celebrate the dawn of a 
new fortune for all mankind on this day of inauguration of this new 
year 2006.

I wish to express my satisfaction for the achievements of the last 
years. Let this year 2006 be known as the Year of Reconstruction of 
the World to be Heaven on Earth, First Year of Sat Yuga, emerging 
from the Vedic knowledge and enlivening all fields of education, 
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arts, commerce and industry, law, justice and invincible defence.

Every Government of our world will enjoy real freedom in 
invincibility and the whole family of nations will breathe life in 
peace, happiness, harmony and invincibility. All these good 
fortunate results will bring appreciation and credit to all the 
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What is coming to us through our programmes of the year 2006 is the 
fulfilment of the aspirations of the wise throughout the ages and 
the fulfilment of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement started 50 
years ago by our Guide, His Holiness Maharshi Mahesh Yogi, and 
fulfilment of his one-pointed dedication to his spiritual master, 
His Divinity Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, the embodiment of Vedic 
wisdom, the light of the Constitution of the Universe, the light of 
Sanatan Dharma, the light of Vedic India.

Today, at this auspicious time, we are inaugurating the World 
Capital of Peace in the Brahmastan of India, centre of India. The 
distinguished Vedic Pundits of India and leading scientists of the 
world like Dr. John Hagelin and Dr. Volker Schanbacher, accompanied 
by the illustrious Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace, are 
inaugurating the World Capital of Peace at the Brahmastan of Ved 
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