[FairfieldLife] Re: tasty Kool-Aid

2006-04-21 Thread jyouells2000



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That's all great. My only gripe is that I wish that the 
> sensible,
> > > > inspiring
> > > > > impression they make in seminars like this held up upon closer
> > > > examination.
> > > > > The TMO could be very successful if they walked their talk. 
> But 
> > > if the
> > > > > people at that conference knew the whole story, they'd head 
> for 
> > > the
> > > > exits.
> > > > > And they will know more and more of the story if they begin 
> to get
> > > > involved.
> > > > > Unless the TMO succeeds in insulating these education 
> projects 
> > > from news
> > > > > about its other activities.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes. Reread the most pertinent part of this statement:
> > > > 
> > > > "They aren't asking the schools to directly fund TM, but are 
> > > offering
> > > >  to help them find the outside funding sources required to 
> teach TM 
> > > to
> > > >  the students. They are having a followup TM intro lecture with
> > > >  interested people in Tucson in early May.
> > > > 
> > > >  And yes, the cost for students and teachers is $2500 per. No 
> > > discounts."
> > > > 
> > > > The keywords are *outside funding sources* and **no discounts**.
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure how you mean "keywords."
> > >
> > 
> > I mean it's a high end sales pitch to move the TM brand upscale,
> > controlled by an ever smaller group no more grass roots stuff.
> > It's about *funding sources*, and it's so slick folks don't even see
> > how unusual it is to need funding sources for 12 hours of 
> instruction.
> > That's what I mean by keywords. 
> 
> 12 hours instruction plus lifetime followup. And if you think that 
> peole in positions of authority in government arent' worried about 
> the followup aspect, you don't know bureaucrats.
>
It's a good line, if that's what you really thinkkind of like
$1,000,000 courses, $2,000,000 instruction facilities, $3,000,000
administrators, and a kings body weight in gold. In the meantime hunt
down all the English TM websites in India and see TM mixed with all
kinds of mundane business ventures. Vertical software, info portals,
business consulting etc mahamail indeed. 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: tasty Kool-Aid

2006-04-21 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 

> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's all great. My only gripe is that I wish that the 
sensible,
> > > inspiring
> > > > impression they make in seminars like this held up upon closer
> > > examination.
> > > > The TMO could be very successful if they walked their talk. 
But 
> > if the
> > > > people at that conference knew the whole story, they'd head 
for 
> > the
> > > exits.
> > > > And they will know more and more of the story if they begin 
to get
> > > involved.
> > > > Unless the TMO succeeds in insulating these education 
projects 
> > from news
> > > > about its other activities.
> > > 
> > > Yes. Reread the most pertinent part of this statement:
> > > 
> > > "They aren't asking the schools to directly fund TM, but are 
> > offering
> > >  to help them find the outside funding sources required to 
teach TM 
> > to
> > >  the students. They are having a followup TM intro lecture with
> > >  interested people in Tucson in early May.
> > > 
> > >  And yes, the cost for students and teachers is $2500 per. No 
> > discounts."
> > > 
> > > The keywords are *outside funding sources* and **no discounts**.
> > 
> > I'm not sure how you mean "keywords."
> >
> 
> I mean it's a high end sales pitch to move the TM brand upscale,
> controlled by an ever smaller group no more grass roots stuff.
> It's about *funding sources*, and it's so slick folks don't even see
> how unusual it is to need funding sources for 12 hours of 
instruction.
> That's what I mean by keywords. 

12 hours instruction plus lifetime followup. And if you think that 
peole in positions of authority in government arent' worried about 
the followup aspect, you don't know bureaucrats.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: tasty Kool-Aid

2006-04-21 Thread jyouells2000



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > That's all great. My only gripe is that I wish that the sensible,
> > inspiring
> > > impression they make in seminars like this held up upon closer
> > examination.
> > > The TMO could be very successful if they walked their talk. But 
> if the
> > > people at that conference knew the whole story, they'd head for 
> the
> > exits.
> > > And they will know more and more of the story if they begin to get
> > involved.
> > > Unless the TMO succeeds in insulating these education projects 
> from news
> > > about its other activities.
> > 
> > Yes. Reread the most pertinent part of this statement:
> > 
> > "They aren't asking the schools to directly fund TM, but are 
> offering
> >  to help them find the outside funding sources required to teach TM 
> to
> >  the students. They are having a followup TM intro lecture with
> >  interested people in Tucson in early May.
> > 
> >  And yes, the cost for students and teachers is $2500 per. No 
> discounts."
> > 
> > The keywords are *outside funding sources* and **no discounts**.
> 
> I'm not sure how you mean "keywords."
>

I mean it's a high end sales pitch to move the TM brand upscale,
controlled by an ever smaller group no more grass roots stuff.
It's about *funding sources*, and it's so slick folks don't even see
how unusual it is to need funding sources for 12 hours of instruction.
That's what I mean by keywords. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: tasty Kool-Aid

2006-04-21 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> wrote:
> >
> > That's all great. My only gripe is that I wish that the sensible,
> inspiring
> > impression they make in seminars like this held up upon closer
> examination.
> > The TMO could be very successful if they walked their talk. But 
if the
> > people at that conference knew the whole story, they'd head for 
the
> exits.
> > And they will know more and more of the story if they begin to get
> involved.
> > Unless the TMO succeeds in insulating these education projects 
from news
> > about its other activities.
> 
> Yes. Reread the most pertinent part of this statement:
> 
> "They aren't asking the schools to directly fund TM, but are 
offering
>  to help them find the outside funding sources required to teach TM 
to
>  the students. They are having a followup TM intro lecture with
>  interested people in Tucson in early May.
> 
>  And yes, the cost for students and teachers is $2500 per. No 
discounts."
> 
> The keywords are *outside funding sources* and **no discounts**.

I'm not sure how you mean "keywords." 









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[FairfieldLife] Re: tasty Kool-Aid

2006-04-21 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> on 4/21/06 1:34 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> That's all great. My only gripe is that I wish that the sensible,
> > inspiring
> >> impression they make in seminars like this held up upon closer
> > examination.
> >> The TMO could be very successful if they walked their talk. But 
if
> > the
> >> people at that conference knew the whole story, they'd head for 
the
> > exits.
> >> And they will know more and more of the story if they begin to 
get
> > involved.
> >> Unless the TMO succeeds in insulating these education projects 
from
> > news
> >> about its other activities.
> > 
> > They included a copy of Ashley Dean's book in every packet they
> > distributed. Chapter 8 is on Yogic Flying and the Maharishi 
Effect.
> > MMY has always insisted that the TMO be upfront about that stuff, 
and
> > the policy continues.
> 
> Was there a chapter on Rajas, praising Mugabe and Castro, etc?
>

No, why should there be? You obsess about MMY doing the usual 
political kow-towing to potential allies and ignore everyone else in 
the world who does it to. I mean, did you miss all the photos of 
members of the Bush Administration having photo-ops with Saddam in 
the 80's, even though he'd already been accused of gassing the Kurds? 
Political realities require one to play kiss-ass with repellant 
people if you plan on dealing with them -- *especially* with 
repellant people because nice people tend to be unimpressed with that 
kind of stuff.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: tasty Kool-Aid

2006-04-21 Thread jyouells2000



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> That's all great. My only gripe is that I wish that the sensible,
inspiring
> impression they make in seminars like this held up upon closer
examination.
> The TMO could be very successful if they walked their talk. But if the
> people at that conference knew the whole story, they'd head for the
exits.
> And they will know more and more of the story if they begin to get
involved.
> Unless the TMO succeeds in insulating these education projects from news
> about its other activities.

Yes. Reread the most pertinent part of this statement:

"They aren't asking the schools to directly fund TM, but are offering
 to help them find the outside funding sources required to teach TM to
 the students. They are having a followup TM intro lecture with
 interested people in Tucson in early May.

 And yes, the cost for students and teachers is $2500 per. No discounts."

The keywords are *outside funding sources* and **no discounts**.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: tasty Kool-Aid

2006-04-21 Thread Rick Archer



on 4/21/06 1:34 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> 
>> That's all great. My only gripe is that I wish that the sensible,
> inspiring
>> impression they make in seminars like this held up upon closer
> examination.
>> The TMO could be very successful if they walked their talk. But if
> the
>> people at that conference knew the whole story, they'd head for the
> exits.
>> And they will know more and more of the story if they begin to get
> involved.
>> Unless the TMO succeeds in insulating these education projects from
> news
>> about its other activities.
> 
> They included a copy of Ashley Dean's book in every packet they
> distributed. Chapter 8 is on Yogic Flying and the Maharishi Effect.
> MMY has always insisted that the TMO be upfront about that stuff, and
> the policy continues.

Was there a chapter on Rajas, praising Mugabe and Castro, etc?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: tasty Kool-Aid

2006-04-21 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> That's all great. My only gripe is that I wish that the sensible, 
inspiring
> impression they make in seminars like this held up upon closer 
examination.
> The TMO could be very successful if they walked their talk. But if 
the
> people at that conference knew the whole story, they'd head for the 
exits.
> And they will know more and more of the story if they begin to get 
involved.
> Unless the TMO succeeds in insulating these education projects from 
news
> about its other activities.

They included a copy of Ashley Dean's book in every packet they 
distributed. Chapter 8 is on Yogic Flying and the Maharishi Effect. 
MMY has always insisted that the TMO be upfront about that stuff, and 
the policy continues.

> 
> on 4/21/06 2:31 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > OK, I was the "grip" for the camera crew (me and the other guy) 
filming
> > today's seminar on Stress-free schools in Arizona, which was 
attended
> > by about 40 invited guests.
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.arizonastressfreeschools.org/
> > 
> > 
> > The speakers were all very impressive, or at least the non-
meditating
> > counselors and educators sitting around the room seemed quite 
impressed
> > with them. The highlight of the seminar, in my mind, was the 16 
year
> > old MSAE student who spoke briefly on her experiences at MSAE.
> > Apparently she had gotten permission from her parents to accompany
> > Ashley Deans, Director of the MSAE, to speak at the conference.
> > Coincidentally her parents are the Geraces, who run the Tucson
> > Maharishi Enlightenment Center.
> > 
> > I assume the extremely benused expressions on everyone's faces as 
they
> > wildly appluaded her meant that they were impressed. That and the 
fact
> > that most of the audience stayed behind to chat with the speakers 
and
> > many made a point of coming up and chatting briefly with the MSAE
> > student. Everyone I saw was leaving their stickem conference 
badge on
> > the index card that was card, and writing contact info on the 
card.
> > 
> > For those that think the TM organization is dying, I say: get 
real.
> > This series of seminars is a highly professional, low-key 
publicity
> > campaign dealing directly with the schools and school districts 
using
> > the best public speakers affiliated with the TM organization See 
the
> > list of panelists and scheduled stops at:
> > 
> > http://www.istpp.org/enews/2006_04_07.html.
> > 
> > I oveheard Ashely Deans say that they were likely going to be on 
tour
> > for the next 6 months.
> > 
> >  They aren't asking the schools to directly fund TM, but are 
offering
> > to help them find the outside funding sources required to teach 
TM to
> > the students. They are having a followup TM intro lecture with
> > interested people in Tucson in early May.
> > 
> > And yes, the cost for students and teachers is $2500 per. No 
discounts.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: tasty kool-aid

2006-04-21 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.istpp.org/enews/2006_04_07.html. 
> 
>

http://www.istpp.org/enews/2006_04_07.html


don't connect the dots, in this case...









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