On 12/10/2014 3:05 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
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*/This corresponds to my first experience of seeing him have to fill
time (6-10 hours of talks a day for a month) at Squaw Valley in 1968./*
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Sorry, Barry, I'm just not buying this story. According to everybody
I've ever talked to about the TTC Squaw Valley, and including numerous
messages posted by John Manning, most of the day was spent rounding,
with talks in the evening. If MMY was speaking "6-10 hours a day for a
month" that hardly leaves time for much rounding. Go figure.*
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*/Before that, I had only seen him "perform" in short bursts, which he
was always able to steer back to his (by then) well-practiced intro
lecture. But at Squaw Valley he had several hundred people sitting in
a room, and he had to find ways to entertain them. So he'd drag out
(in my opinion) a lot of Other People's Stories and tell them as if
they were his.
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By the time of the Squaw Valley TTC MMY had already recorded numerous
recordings and tapes for the SCI and written two books which pretty much
outline his system. It's common knowledge that MMY was very close to the
Shivananda Ashram at Rishikesh and it's teachers and to Swami Laksmanjoo
up in Kashmir. In fact, if you read Dr. Coplin's dissertation, MMY's
knowledge base was quite extensive in the Hindu context of yoga and
spiritual paths.
*Text and Context in the Communication of a Social Movement*
by J.R. Coplin
http://archive.today/gnpyx
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*/The most egregious examples of this were when he'd open the
microphone to questions, and people would ask him about other
spiritual paths and other spiritual teachers he knew nothing about. At
least twice I saw/heard him say things that were *completely* wrong,
180 degrees opposite from what the organization believed and that the
teacher taught. To this day I don't know whether he just made this
shit up, or had heard it from someone who was also making it up, like
Charlie Lutes.
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*One thing that MMY got correct was the idea that concentration would
not produce a blissful and enjoyable meditation. All TMers know this -
it was one of TM's strongest points, that and the checking. Not the TMer
philosophy.*
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