--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
Barry wrote in reference to this post and Dan:
You've got to give him credit. No one else even tried. :-)
Share's reply:
I did.
Share, I think you have the wrong post in mind. Here Barry
was referring to what he considers the shameful paucity of
reports from FFLers of spiritual experiences in their
day-to-day lives (such as those Barry has when he sees a
hot woman walking down the street):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316172
Most of us will recognize in this post Barry's standard
dual motivation: to exalt his own spirituality and to
put down the spirituality of others, especially those
whom he doesn't like (easy to discern the target in
this case).
Bottom line, yes, he's ignoring your response to the
question of whether MMY was enlightened, but in this
post referring to Dan he was citing the lack of
response to his later question, as noted. Most likely if
you post a response to that one, however, he'll ignore
it as well. ;-)
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From: Share Long sharelong60@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] An Open Question to FFLers
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Good morning TurqB and thank you for asking this question. In the spirit of
the Byron Katie question, Can you absolutely know that's true, I don't
know if Maharishi was enlightened. btw, I have yet to find a situation in
which I can answer yes to that BK question. Not a single one.Â
And I also experience what I call knowingness which is more than intellectual
knowledge and includes intuition as well as instinctual, bodily and emotional
intelligence. This intuitive knowingness is what I experienced when I
attended the TM intro lecture. I knew that it was what I had been
seeking. And so I started TM the weekend before the Merv Griffin Show.
37 years later and between 5 and 10 programs total missed due to travel and
or illness, and this intuitive knowing is still what keeps me on this path.Â
As I've shared here before, I have investigated many other systems. I no
longer look to the TMO for my emotional healing tho I do experience it as the
foundation for my emotional development. By which I mean I don't think the
other stuff would work as well as it has if I hadn't been doing TMSP. Which
also gets a lot of credit for developing my intuitive knowing. Â Â
When I left MUM 10 years ago to seek the emotional healing I needed, I was at
peace with TMO. I had come to know that TMO is in the relative, thus best
not to expect it to be perfect. Since then I have come to understand about
internal dysfunctional families and how they are reflected in any and all
groups one might join.Â
Of course the leader of any such group would be a reflection of one's inner
father. Both positive and negative projections leftover from childhood will
be put on this person. Best to be conscious about such projections.Â
Also as stated before, I am not a TM gov so don't have that particular bond
with Maharishi. But I continue with TMSP and I continue to deeply resonate
with Maharishi's explanations about consciousness, etc. That is more than
enough for me. Hope this helps.
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 5:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] An Open Question to FFLers
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This question has been posed before, by numerous people,
but I don't remember it ever being dealt with in any depth,
or with any real honesty, so I'm posing it again:
If you believe that Maharishi was enlightened (in at least
Cosmic Consciousness as he defined it, let alone Unity
Consciousness as he defined it), WHY do you believe this?
I ask because, try as I might I never once, in all the years I
studied with him and was around him, heard Maharishi
claim to be enlightened. Not once.
I have met or encountered on the Internet *many* people
whose experience was the same as mine; they cannot think
of a single occasion on which he actually claimed to be in
any higher state of consciousness.
And yet, day after day we hear people talking on this and
other forums as if Maharishi's enlightenment could be
*assumed*, that it's a Done Deal, and a fact. They stake
their entire
reputations on this.
I'm wondering WHY.
If you're one of these people, convinced that Maharishi was
enlightened, could you possibly explain WHY you feel this
way? Thanks in advance...