RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden...
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden... Thanks, Judy. She's living with a girlfriend. Her two youngest kids are with her. She's on antidepressants. Psychological counseling is an unbelievably remote possibility considering her circumstances. She's unemployed and on foodstamps. My mother, brother and I send her some money to get by, but that's about it. She has a case worker through social services, but I don't know how much good that will do. As shocking as this may sound, her previous caseworker tried to force her to give him a blow job. She filed a police report. Since it was just he-said she-said, they didn't do anything about it. He still has his job. That gives you an idea of how impoverished social services have become in Michigan. We don't know if the boyfriend is still in jail. I hope he stays in there long enough that she doesn't feel tempted to go back to him. As crazy as that sounds, it happens all the time. Abused women have so few resources, they become dependent on the abuser. I was listening to Eckhart Tolle talk about the pain body today in his book, A New Earth, and the discussion made me think of your niece. If you like, I'll lend you the CD's.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden...
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:50 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Hey Raunch, do I get brownie points for posting this? Rick, thanks for posting the Amnesty International petition. It's one the few organizations I regularly donate to. I would hope that you posted it as a person of conscience and not as the disingenuous person posing in your comment. Violence against women is a serious business. I posted it in all sincerity and signed the petition myself (for what it's worth). I'm very sorry about what happened to your niece and I'm afraid I don't have answers to the important questions you asked. It's hard for me to imagine being the victim of such violence. I could give you philosophical musings about karma, free will, etc., but we just make ourselves feel good with those things. You're right. We do live in a sick society. You and I live in pockets of relative sanity, but far too many people have been going through hell for far too long. I could argue that men have been the victims of their fair share of violence too, mostly as soldiers, but then men have been primarily responsible for starting the wars (although Condi probably played a significant part in starting the last one). So I can only give you platitudes and sympathy and my sincere hopes that we are indeed shifting into a more enlightened age. Let's each individually continue to contribute all we can to facilitating that shift, and be careful not to do anything to impede it.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden...
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:55 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: It was good enough for Senators Obama and Biden... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: I posted it in all sincerity and signed the petition myself (for what it's worth). I'm very sorry about what happened to your niece and I'm afraid I don't have answers to the important questions you asked. It's hard for me to imagine being the victim of such violence. I could give you philosophical musings about karma, free will, etc., but we just make ourselves feel good with those things. You're right. We do live in a sick society. You and I live in pockets of relative sanity, but far too many people have been going through hell for far too long. I could argue that men have been the victims of their fair share of violence too, mostly as soldiers, but then men have been primarily responsible for starting the wars (although Condi probably played a significant part in starting the last one). So I can only give you platitudes and sympathy and my sincere hopes that we are indeed shifting into a more enlightened age. Let's each individually continue to contribute all we can to facilitating that shift, and be careful not to do anything to impede it. Thanks, Rick. I don't know if I see a moral equivalency between killing soldiers and raping women. Soldiers enlist and at least have a fighting chance. In countries blown to bits by war, chaos is a way of life and raping women is a sport. Sick, indeed. I'll see you at Lobe sack's town hall. Good point. One observation, perhaps invalid, is that women enlist in relationships with the wrong guys, just as soldiers are often duped into enlisting for reasons other than those for which the war is actually being fought. Both go through hell as a consequence.
