Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yep-And a proud day to be a Republican!! :-) was Make that...
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you're wrong...the democrats want a 1cent increase in the sales tax across the board, that affects everybody,and is bad for business. We already have one of the highest sales tax across the country. ...and your income tax rates aren't that pretty, either. This is the marginal tax rate that a single, self-employed taxpayer reaches once he has about $38,000 in taxable income: 25.0% Marginal Federal Income tax 15.3% Payroll tax (FICA) 08.0% Marginal California Income tax - 48.3% TOTAL ...and I'm probably leaving out a few little taxes that you have which not living in California I am not aware of. Thus, BillyG, once earning a measly $38,000 (which isn't alot) a self- employed single taxpayer is essentially giving half of every dollar he earns at this point to various governments and he keeps half (and we haven't even factored in property taxes because property taxes aren't levied on income). Where is the incentive to work? To eat? To not live under a bridge? Of course finding a job in California is not an easy trick either. There were proposals on the State Assembly floor to modestly increase taxes on the rich and corporations. The 1 cent sales tax increase has been bandied about for a while. I don't keep up that much on the badminton games or the circus in Sacramento. Someone making $38K a year in California would not be rich by any means. And self employed they can probably come up with enough deductions to pay very little tax overall.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yep-And a proud day to be a Republican!! :-) was Make that...
shempmcgurk wrote: Reread what I wrote, Bhairitu: I said $38,000 in TAXABLE income. There are NO deductions to taxable income...this is a figure that is arrived at AFTER deductions are taken. So for the example in question the person would probably have ADJUSTED GROSS income, say, of $46,000 and then have deductions. Do you know what taxable income is? Sorry I missed that but you are making a good case why we should tax the rich more and people under $250K less. :D I have a CPA do my taxes and I barely understand her worksheet. I think it is an abomination that every citizen of this country has to practically be an accountant to not get screwed on taxes. We need to redo the whole tax code and simplify it. But I think the only way to do that is to have another revolution and start over again just as Jefferson suggested.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yep-And a proud day to be a Republican!! :-) was Make that...
shempmcgurk wrote: I used to think that the flat tax would be the way. However, now the thing is the fair tax, which is: elimination of individual income tax, all payroll tax, and corporate tax...and replace it with a value-added tax. No filling out income tax forms each year. A lot of countries (including India) have a VAT. What are the arguments against it?
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BillyG. wrote: The Republicans are holding the line *against* new taxes in California and getting pounded in the media for it, although Swartzenseems like nothing but a R.I.N.O. IMO. The new taxes would be on wealthier Californians and corporations anyway. Not to an extent they can't handle. This is a very corrupt state in that big business also runs state government and seems to have a history of doing so since the capital moved to Sacramento (due to a wealthy benefactor). BTW, I'll put up with earthquakes over hurricanes any day.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yep-And a proud day to be a Republican!! :-) was Make that...
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 4:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yep-And a proud day to be a Republican!! :-) was Make that... I think BillyG took his lead from an unabashedly patriotic Charlie Lutes who [I believe] was a Republican and who [I know] was somewhat of homophobe. He often referred to gays as being 'light in the loafers'. Two lesbians got up and left in tears from one of his lectures I attended after he made some derogatory comments about gay people. Or from MMY, who was supportive of Nixon during the Watergate years, and who told the Amherst SCI Symposium, in the presence of General Davis, that if your enemy has the bomb, you should get a bigger bomb. He seems to have wised up in his later years, with his condemnation of Bush.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yep-And a proud day to be a Republican!! :-) was Make that...
BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BillyG. wrote: At first I balked, but after hearing her acceptance speech I was immediately on board. She's totally genuine with conservative principles AND even if the McCain ticket looses in November (God forbid) the Republicans can be proud of their outstanding choice. I'm proud to be a registered Republican!! :-) Below is the McCain/Palin/Republican platform: http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/ You're kidding, right? If not I would like to know why you vote Republican? Seems to be a dissonant choice for someone so interested in meditation and eastern philosophy. Evil, in all of its forms, must be eliminated, (or stood up to) whether it is in oneself or the environment in which you live. This is true spiritual duty, and the essence of the Bhagavad Gita; standing up to the evil Kuravas (sense tendencies of the kama rupa, desire body) in oneself and also taking a position of 'righteous duty' (dharma) against the evil tendencies in the World. WWII is a great example of where America was an especially heroic Country and truly lived up to its Dharma or righteous duty! Then you must live in an alternate universe. Look at what the Republicans have wrought in the last 8 years. If anything they are the evil ones. To me, Bush, Cheney and the neocons are superb examples of rakshasas which by modern Hindi definition means wicked person. They are now willing to risk nuclear war with Russia in order to maintain US hegemony. They do not have the support of the American people in this activity (certainly not those who are rational). I would suggest you read the writing of a Republican who served in the Reagan White House, Paul Craig Roberts, whose articles I link to here on this group. He is not a fan of what the Republican Party has become and especially not a fan of the Bush administration. Your opinion is indeed VERY NAIVE. But you are welcome to be as naive and stupid as you want in this world as well as suffer the consequences for it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yep-And a proud day to be a Republican!! :-) was Make that...
do.rflex wrote: - I think BillyG took his lead from an unabashedly patriotic Charlie Lutes who [I believe] was a Republican and who [I know] was somewhat of homophobe. He often referred to gays as being 'light in the loafers'. Two lesbians got up and left in tears from one of his lectures I attended after he made some derogatory comments about gay people. The other night I watched the HBO movie Recount on DVD. This was the critically praised movie about the Florida 2000 election recount. It reminded me so poignantly of how demonic the Bush supporters and the Karl Rove operatives were on that occasion. Rove is still unleashing his evil in this world. We will undoubtedly see more of his crap in the next two months. Maybe we'll be lucky though and he'll choke to death on a pretzel (or someone's dick).
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Rick Archer wrote: Or from MMY, who was supportive of Nixon during the Watergate years, and who told the Amherst SCI Symposium, in the presence of General Davis, that if your enemy has the bomb, you should get a bigger bomb. He seems to have wised up in his later years, with his condemnation of Bush. And I remember the TMO saying glowing things about Reagan when he took office and that's when I really decided the movement was run by a bunch of goofballs.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yep-And a proud day to be a Republican!! :-) was Make that...
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillyG. Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yep-And a proud day to be a Republican!! :-) was Make that... Or from MMY, who was supportive of Nixon during the Watergate years, and who told the Amherst SCI Symposium, in the presence of General Davis, that if your enemy has the bomb, you should get a bigger bomb. (snip) I can confirm that statement by MMY, as I have heard it from a friend of mine who also made that exact statement! So can I 'cause I was there.
